not to be dramatic - but are Republicans in a death cult?

[Anonymous]

Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

[Anonymous]

death cult

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/21/illinois-gop-lawmaker-removed-mask/?utm_source=reddit.com

‘A callous disregard for life’: GOP lawmaker kicked out of Illinois legislative session over refusal to wear mask

On the first day of the Illinois General Assembly’s special pandemic session, in a makeshift chamber in the Bank of Springfield Center, the first order of business was to vote that everyone must wear a mask — a rule that passed overwhelmingly with bipartisan support.

But there was one Republican holdout on Wednesday: state Rep. Darren Bailey, who sat smiling at his desk on the floor of the arena and refused to put one on.

“[If] you want to send me or anyone else outside the doors today, I understand. Go right ahead,” Bailey said when asked to comply, NPR Illinois reported. “But know this: If you do that, you’re silencing millions of voices of people who have had enough."

His colleagues on both sides of the aisle didn’t appear too worried. They kicked him out of the legislature by an 81-27 vote.

“Doormen, please remove Rep. Bailey,” said state Rep. Jay Hoffman (D), before a group of men in masks escorted the maskless Bailey from the arena, the state’s temporary legislative home to allow for more social distancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

I mean - the obvious answer is because Republicans are in a death cult? As such it serves their death wish to whatabout in this manner, while refusing to take even the most modest mitigation measures.

[Anonymous]

They’re the money over mama party. Sacrifice people for a buck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/05/videos/1586122762_356230.html

They're covered in Jesus' blood, and that why they want to kill us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

When was there a shut down of anything in America due to pandemic in the last 40 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

I'm a NP and never said anything about a death cult.

It's also rich, even by the low standards I have for this site, to bring up a different time and a different issue and then accuse someone responding to that of "deflecting." This is a more a dangerous disease. Reopening in these times is more dangerous and a church willing to reopen right now is willing to accept a greater danger to their worshipers than one staying open in January 2018. That's reality and has nothing to do with politics. I'm a churchgoer; my church won't reopen any time soon, regardless of what the governor allows, because we understand the danger this particular disease presents, especially to older parishioners. In 2018, there was a lower danger so the church was open, but we strongly reminded people to stay home if they're sick, encouraged people who were vulnerable to refrain from the parts of the service that were more likely to expose them, i.e. refraining from shaking hands at the peace, and receiving communion in one kind. That was an appropriate response then like closing is an appropriate response now.

A church that sees that danger and doesn't take care of their members is telling me something about how they value the life of their members and it's not good. "Death cult" is a provocative way to describe it, but "callously indifferent to human suffering" isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

Not only that, but the 60,000 flu numbers include “probable” cases not just lab confirmed cases. If CV19 cases we’re counted like the flu, the numbers would be much higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

I'm a NP and never said anything about a death cult.

It's also rich, even by the low standards I have for this site, to bring up a different time and a different issue and then accuse someone responding to that of "deflecting." This is a more a dangerous disease. Reopening in these times is more dangerous and a church willing to reopen right now is willing to accept a greater danger to their worshipers than one staying open in January 2018. That's reality and has nothing to do with politics. I'm a churchgoer; my church won't reopen any time soon, regardless of what the governor allows, because we understand the danger this particular disease presents, especially to older parishioners. In 2018, there was a lower danger so the church was open, but we strongly reminded people to stay home if they're sick, encouraged people who were vulnerable to refrain from the parts of the service that were more likely to expose them, i.e. refraining from shaking hands at the peace, and receiving communion in one kind. That was an appropriate response then like closing is an appropriate response now.

A church that sees that danger and doesn't take care of their members is telling me something about how they value the life of their members and it's not good. "Death cult" is a provocative way to describe it, but "callously indifferent to human suffering" isn't.

I appreciate your perspective, however, your analysis that I bolded validates the point I was originally trying to make. Describing a Church, especially ones that clearly are going to take precautions, as "Death Cults" is 100% political.

[Anonymous]

^^were counted

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

I'm a NP and never said anything about a death cult.

It's also rich, even by the low standards I have for this site, to bring up a different time and a different issue and then accuse someone responding to that of "deflecting." This is a more a dangerous disease. Reopening in these times is more dangerous and a church willing to reopen right now is willing to accept a greater danger to their worshipers than one staying open in January 2018. That's reality and has nothing to do with politics. I'm a churchgoer; my church won't reopen any time soon, regardless of what the governor allows, because we understand the danger this particular disease presents, especially to older parishioners. In 2018, there was a lower danger so the church was open, but we strongly reminded people to stay home if they're sick, encouraged people who were vulnerable to refrain from the parts of the service that were more likely to expose them, i.e. refraining from shaking hands at the peace, and receiving communion in one kind. That was an appropriate response then like closing is an appropriate response now.

A church that sees that danger and doesn't take care of their members is telling me something about how they value the life of their members and it's not good. "Death cult" is a provocative way to describe it, but "callously indifferent to human suffering" isn't.

I appreciate your perspective, however, your analysis that I bolded validates the point I was originally trying to make. Describing a Church, especially ones that clearly are going to take precautions, as "Death Cults" is 100% political.

Yep. It sure is political. Republicans have turned dying by plague into a point of pride for their Dear Leader, just like they fetishize dying by gun.

Death cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, definitely death cult.

Evangelical churches and some Catholic parishes want to open up! Not so pro life when it comes to the already living.

Churches were open during the 2017-2018 flu season, which killed 61,000 people. Were they being a "death cult" then?

Why are still comparing a disease that even when its bad, killed 60,000 people in six months, then goes away, with a disease that's killed 93,000 in two months, for which there's no vaccine, unlike the flu, and where we have no idea if there's going to be a seasonal component. I'm not sure why this keeps needing to be said, but THIS IS NOT THE FLU.

You are deflecting. This is not about which virus is more deadly. This is about the ridiculous notion, that somehow, Churches are now "death cults" (which means that they are obsessed with, or glorify, death), when there was never an issue with them being open during previous pandemics. Your metric for describing them as "death cults" rests solely on a number, and ultimately, politics.

I'm a NP and never said anything about a death cult.

It's also rich, even by the low standards I have for this site, to bring up a different time and a different issue and then accuse someone responding to that of "deflecting." This is a more a dangerous disease. Reopening in these times is more dangerous and a church willing to reopen right now is willing to accept a greater danger to their worshipers than one staying open in January 2018. That's reality and has nothing to do with politics. I'm a churchgoer; my church won't reopen any time soon, regardless of what the governor allows, because we understand the danger this particular disease presents, especially to older parishioners. In 2018, there was a lower danger so the church was open, but we strongly reminded people to stay home if they're sick, encouraged people who were vulnerable to refrain from the parts of the service that were more likely to expose them, i.e. refraining from shaking hands at the peace, and receiving communion in one kind. That was an appropriate response then like closing is an appropriate response now.

A church that sees that danger and doesn't take care of their members is telling me something about how they value the life of their members and it's not good. "Death cult" is a provocative way to describe it, but "callously indifferent to human suffering" isn't.

I appreciate your perspective, however, your analysis that I bolded validates the point I was originally trying to make. Describing a Church, especially ones that clearly are going to take precautions, as "Death Cults" is 100% political.

Yep. It sure is political. Republicans have turned dying by plague into a point of pride for their Dear Leader, just like they fetishize dying by gun.

Death cult.

Then please explain all of the Democrat governors that are "opening up". Are they part of the cult?