viral San Francisco nanny ad

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:$85K is peanuts!


This actually is NOT a demanding post in terms of hours. While she is looking for a very specific person, she's not actually that much from them in terms of work.
Anonymous
It might be that she has a particular immigrant in mind. Maybe it is a relative of a friend or a former au pair. If you can prove you tried to find an American to do the job but can't find an American to do the job you can help someone with specific skills to get a green card.
A relative did this in California. They loved their nanny who overstayed her visa. They wrote an outlandish job posting exaggerating what the nanny did. Like she occasionally cooked Jewish food, ran with the dog (because she liked running), knew how to play tennis and soccer, spoke Spanish, etc. The ad required the person to do all these things and more that were specifically crafted to things the nanny knew how to do. No one applied for the job. The nanny got her green card
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$85K is peanuts!


Not with your housing and car paid for!

Depends on the housing and car.


I had a similar job for a few years after college for a wealthy family in Connecticut. The pay was ok, but the benefits made it amazing - room and board; car, gas, insurance; they bought me vacation clothes/accessories - skis, surfboard, diving gear; I traveled with them but had evenings and one or two days to myself each trip; they paid for me to go home and visit my parents once a year - they basically covered any and all living expenses. So I banked almost every cent of every paycheck. After bonuses I left with more than $200,000 in savings. That paid for my wedding, a huge down payment on my first house, and started my retirement account.

This job description is a lot, but you go in knowing what to expect. I'd do it again.


Good for you. This can work out well on some scenarios. If someone is enterpring, they can use these few years to get some great certifications using online courses. I
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It might be that she has a particular immigrant in mind. Maybe it is a relative of a friend or a former au pair. If you can prove you tried to find an American to do the job but can't find an American to do the job you can help someone with specific skills to get a green card.
A relative did this in California. They loved their nanny who overstayed her visa. They wrote an outlandish job posting exaggerating what the nanny did. Like she occasionally cooked Jewish food, ran with the dog (because she liked running), knew how to play tennis and soccer, spoke Spanish, etc. The ad required the person to do all these things and more that were specifically crafted to things the nanny knew how to do. No one applied for the job. The nanny got her green card


I know of a Tech Billionaire ( in Forbes list and all) who did that for their destics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It might be that she has a particular immigrant in mind. Maybe it is a relative of a friend or a former au pair. If you can prove you tried to find an American to do the job but can't find an American to do the job you can help someone with specific skills to get a green card.
A relative did this in California. They loved their nanny who overstayed her visa. They wrote an outlandish job posting exaggerating what the nanny did. Like she occasionally cooked Jewish food, ran with the dog (because she liked running), knew how to play tennis and soccer, spoke Spanish, etc. The ad required the person to do all these things and more that were specifically crafted to things the nanny knew how to do. No one applied for the job. The nanny got her green card

I’m calling BS on this unless they committed fraud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It might be that she has a particular immigrant in mind. Maybe it is a relative of a friend or a former au pair. If you can prove you tried to find an American to do the job but can't find an American to do the job you can help someone with specific skills to get a green card.
A relative did this in California. They loved their nanny who overstayed her visa. They wrote an outlandish job posting exaggerating what the nanny did. Like she occasionally cooked Jewish food, ran with the dog (because she liked running), knew how to play tennis and soccer, spoke Spanish, etc. The ad required the person to do all these things and more that were specifically crafted to things the nanny knew how to do. No one applied for the job. The nanny got her green card

I’m calling BS on this unless they committed fraud.


It’s not fraud.

Crafting a very, very specific job posting and then not getting any (qualified) responses due to how specific it is is actually common in the nanny community. That’s why we always recommend that employers list everything they want don’t and the rate they can pay, then reevaluate if the response was lower than expected. It’s the best way to convince prospective employers that the duties and rate aren’t commensurate.

In the above type of situation, there are very few people capable and willing to do the job, because it’s tailored to a certain person. Knowing how to play two sports is implying that the person hired will play them with the kids, but it’s just an implication. Running with the dog is totally acceptable, even if it’s an add on that the current job holder voluntarily started doing. Ability to cook certain types of food is common, with the actual percentage of cooking being lower than 100%. Speaking Spanish as a native language is actually the easiest to find of the four listed qualities. That post is non-discriminatory (don’t have to be Jewish to cook Jewish food, could be born anywhere and still have Spanish as a language in childhood home), and if there aren’t any applicants other than the current person who needs a visa renewal or green card? Exceptions get made.
Anonymous
“Can eat duck eggs.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.


This is why this model works when the care giver is a parent. What this person is trying to do is outsource being a parent. Even with all of the outsourcing she has done throughput with her kids, in the end, the mental and emotional needs of the children has grown not lessened with their age. She wants a rich and educated SAHM of DCUM.


+1 If you read the second article, she’s really hung up on „must love me and my children“. She wants to pay someone to be her wife. Like a straight, nonsexual partner who is highly educated and stays at home with the kids. It’s weird, sure, but more of a sign of modern times. It actually reads a lot like she chose to be a single parent and is kind of outsourcing the other parent role.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

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agree completely. all these people basically saying 'good for her because she knows what she wants and is willing to pay for it' astound me. I find the whole thing reeking of uber privilege and obnoxiousness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

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agree completely. all these people basically saying 'good for her because she knows what she wants and is willing to pay for it' astound me. I find the whole thing reeking of uber privilege and obnoxiousness.


Nannies are the top tier for childcare. I’m confused about how the post “reeking of uber privilege” is in any way different as compared to the typical family hiring a very qualified top tier nanny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.


This is why this model works when the care giver is a parent. What this person is trying to do is outsource being a parent. Even with all of the outsourcing she has done throughput with her kids, in the end, the mental and emotional needs of the children has grown not lessened with their age. She wants a rich and educated SAHM of DCUM.



This. And it's very hard to find this -- people who have the smarts and the drive to be qualified usually have their own career ambitions. Let's face it, being a nanny, even a supernanny, doesn't exactly shine on the resume. Why would anyone devote years of their lives to this? That's why being a SAHM parent is a thankless job. Only a parent or other close family care this much about kids' nutrition, whether they are doing well in homework, whether they are experiencing adequate social-emotional growth, whether their camps and extracurriculars are tailored to their educational and social needs....and all the other issues parents think about. Hard to hire a parent.


The one time such a qualified person will give up their own career ambitions is when it is for their own children.



Agree with all of this.

Not only do I agree with this, I left a C-suite job at a large company to do exactly that. Her write-up pretty much requires someone with work experience and a UMC background. Good grief.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

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agree completely. all these people basically saying 'good for her because she knows what she wants and is willing to pay for it' astound me. I find the whole thing reeking of uber privilege and obnoxiousness.


Nannies are the top tier for childcare. I’m confused about how the post “reeking of uber privilege” is in any way different as compared to the typical family hiring a very qualified top tier nanny.


Really? I never asked our nannies at what level they could ski, if they were good open water swimmers, and whether they'd mind planning all of our vacations in their down time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

'
agree completely. all these people basically saying 'good for her because she knows what she wants and is willing to pay for it' astound me. I find the whole thing reeking of uber privilege and obnoxiousness.


Nannies are the top tier for childcare. I’m confused about how the post “reeking of uber privilege” is in any way different as compared to the typical family hiring a very qualified top tier nanny.


Really? I never asked our nannies at what level they could ski, if they were good open water swimmers, and whether they'd mind planning all of our vacations in their down time.


You don’t have a top-tier nanny, nor do you need one.
Anonymous
How does someone so verbose and scatter brained become a CEO? I couldn’t get through the article or the ad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean sure, it's a little over the top and the mom is definitely type A, but for $40 an hour and free living in a pool house, it's not a bad deal.


I would take it for $500 an hour. Then I would outsource the physical activity bit to two hot gay guys.


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