viral San Francisco nanny ad

[Anonymous]

Ohhhh I want one too!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a male single parent CEO had posted this, he would be universally applauded.

I think male CEO would have stopped after the nanny. He would probably thrown in some tutors and therapists and called it a day.

She wants a mom because she knows that a mom is missing in the kids lives. The male CEO would not have thought this. This burden and realization is unique to women. Hence the mommy wars.

Truth right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

This is why this model works when the care giver is a parent. What this person is trying to do is outsource being a parent. Even with all of the outsourcing she has done throughput with her kids, in the end, the mental and emotional needs of the children has grown not lessened with their age. She wants a rich and educated SAHM of DCUM.

I dunno. Based on the nastiness of their posts here, I wouldn't want most of the DCUM SAHMs anywhere near my kids, especially during the vulnerable teen/tween years. I'd worry about what terrible values they would teach my kids when I wasn't there.

(To be clear I also think most WOHMs on this site are nasty, and I wouldn't want them near my kids either.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post has made me realize why my DH is ever appreciative of me being a SAHM, even now when the kids are in high school. He cannot stomach the college application process and everything else that is going on with teens.
Men know the value that educated SAHMs bring to their lives and the mental burden they take away from their spouses. Only women are stupidly confused about this.

LOL have you ever read any divorce thread on any board

Men have amnesia about how “appreciative” they ever were

Yes. That's why keep working if you have married such a man, or have a pre-nup. This is absolutely a given. Ladies, protect yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

This is why this model works when the care giver is a parent. What this person is trying to do is outsource being a parent. Even with all of the outsourcing she has done throughput with her kids, in the end, the mental and emotional needs of the children has grown not lessened with their age. She wants a rich and educated SAHM of DCUM.

This. And it's very hard to find this -- people who have the smarts and the drive to be qualified usually have their own career ambitions. Let's face it, being a nanny, even a supernanny, doesn't exactly shine on the resume. Why would anyone devote years of their lives to this? That's why being a SAHM parent is a thankless job. Only a parent or other close family care this much about kids' nutrition, whether they are doing well in homework, whether they are experiencing adequate social-emotional growth, whether their camps and extracurriculars are tailored to their educational and social needs....and all the other issues parents think about. Hard to hire a parent.

The one time such a qualified person will give up their own career ambitions is when it is for their own children.

OP here, +1. This woman wants an absolute unicorn. Somewhat educated, (UMC background implied), athletic, "high executive functioning," a good cook, a good coach to kids, can manage other staff and conduct weekly staff meetings, and who can "build alliances with other kids' parents and nannies and arrange play dates and joint travel with other families." In one of the articles it mentions $86K + benefits, which I think is a pretty mediocre salary for someone who is qualified and willing to do this with someone else's kids, especially given this is in the Bay area. When I first posted this I was thinking she would need to offer somewhere around $150K.

That parent needs a shrink. We have to feel sorry for those children.

Not really. She understands what her kids needs more than a single male CEO dad. You can feel sorry for any kids whoSe parents do not have any time.
Most families I know with SAHMs and WOHMs will make time for their kids in some way. Everyone realizes that kids need time with their parents and most parents will make it happen, however inconvenient it is for them. This lady is no exception.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post has made me realize why my DH is ever appreciative of me being a SAHM, even now when the kids are in high school. He cannot stomach the college application process and everything else that is going on with teens.
Men know the value that educated SAHMs bring to their lives and the mental burden they take away from their spouses. Only women are stupidly confused about this.

LOL have you ever read any divorce thread on any board

Men have amnesia about how “appreciative” they ever were

Yes. That's why keep working if you have married such a man, or have a pre-nup. This is absolutely a given. Ladies, protect yourself.

You never know what you have until you’re there.

[Anonymous]

I love the part about teaching the household staff to use her productivity apps and controlling their work:

Lead, supervise and support members of the household staff who have varying degrees of education, experience and maturity. Control, organize, motivate and plan their tasks. Utilize Microsoft To Do/Wunderlist to track activities. Help members of the staff who are less tech savvy to download apps and use them.

[Anonymous]

I would love to work for this woman in a professional setting. Her level of self awareness and planning is admirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love to work for this woman in a professional setting. Her level of self awareness and planning is admirable.

I’d say her staff wrote that.

[Anonymous]

Who wants to live in Sili Valley if they don’t work in tech?
Also, ONLY working 8-9 hrs when on vacation with family?
Also, to LOVE the family for $40/hr?
This is all very silly valley...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Au pairs can only work 45 hours per week, and I’d bet anything that they need two drivers because 10yo b/g twins won’t always be doing the same thing.

I’ve done more than this posting requires. It’s really not that hard to find. But I want to be in the house, not in a pool house, so I’m not interested.

I bet there’s room in their house. Why would you want that instead of the pool house?

Different rapport with the family. I’m fine with having my area in the basement or an upper floor, but I don’t want to be relegated to another building during my time off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

Again, I’m the nanny who said btdt. Thanks for the reality check. I’m so glad my career is so highly valued.

We all have different measures of success. I’m very picky about my nf, and they are my family while I’m with them. This is my career, my passion, my calling, and I’m thrilled I get to do it. I don’t need ambition to be more, I AM more than you seem to realize. Luckily enough, my nf have always recognized that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one off-putting aspect is the “all-in-one” bit. Super-athletic, which implies young, but also the knowledge to meal plan with some extreme restrictions, which is a skill that takes some life experience to develop, and travel planning around the globe, which again is a life skill that few people have during the time they’re young enough to be advanced skiers and “river swimmers”. And the person should have no further ambition for themself than to be someone’s nanny for a few years, and are presumably unencumbered by a family if their own. The combination of everything is what’s ridiculous.

This is why this model works when the care giver is a parent. What this person is trying to do is outsource being a parent. Even with all of the outsourcing she has done throughput with her kids, in the end, the mental and emotional needs of the children has grown not lessened with their age. She wants a rich and educated SAHM of DCUM.

This. And it's very hard to find this -- people who have the smarts and the drive to be qualified usually have their own career ambitions. Let's face it, being a nanny, even a supernanny, doesn't exactly shine on the resume. Why would anyone devote years of their lives to this? That's why being a SAHM parent is a thankless job. Only a parent or other close family care this much about kids' nutrition, whether they are doing well in homework, whether they are experiencing adequate social-emotional growth, whether their camps and extracurriculars are tailored to their educational and social needs....and all the other issues parents think about. Hard to hire a parent.

The one time such a qualified person will give up their own career ambitions is when it is for their own children.

There are a few dozen of us for whom this is our career, this is our choice. Stop demeaning our choice and ambition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My niece is a House Manager and loves it. She took the job while searching for a job in her specific field after college and that was 4 years ago.

She does pretty much everything listed here and has pretty much identical perks. Except she's the House Manager for a family of 5 (mom, dad, 3 kids) and a staff of 4 (au pair, gardener/handyman, maid, and chef). She can make up to $3600/wk depending on if she's needed 5 or 6 days. They provide the car and she lives in their pool house. She gets to go on all vacations with them where she's provided her own room and her own rental car by them. She also gets 3 weeks of personal vacation time and she gets paid time and a half on all school holidays or breaks or when traveling with the family.

She does "a day in my life" videos from time to time and they are SO interesting. Her job is to basically make the parent's lives as easy as possible so that when they are home, all they have to do is relax and spend time with the kids.

The au pair is responsible for all of the childcare but she's the backup when the au pair is on vacation. She also coordinates daily with her to sync schedules and discuss any issues with the kids that may need managed by her or brought to the parent's attention. She's responsible for making sure the gardener completes his tasks satisfactorily and provides him with the fix-it type projects that may need done that week. She does all of the grocery shopping and coordinates with the personal chef on recipes, parties, special requests, etc. The chef comes each day and does 99% of the cooking for that evening and the next day's lunches to the point where my niece just has to heat the dinner and pack the lunches for the kids the next day. She also manages the maid and directs her on specific areas that need more attention.

The big one that I don't see listed here is that my niece is responsible for their dog's care... walks, baths, playdates, doggy daycare, vet appointments, etc.

She plans all their vacations, buys pretty much all the gifts, runs personal errands for the parents, brings coffee and treats to their offices for their employees when requested, makes returns, makes sure all cars get their routine maintenance done and inspections, etc.

She's a very organized person and loves lists, so the job actually ended up being perfect for her. She also loves shopping and spending other people's money, plus they will tell her when she's running an errand to "pick up something for yourself that's under x dollars" or whatnot.

Your niece is back up care. The position in discussion is similar, but it involves more childcare and all cooking. Good for your niece for finding something she loves!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love the part about teaching the household staff to use her productivity apps and controlling their work:

Lead, supervise and support members of the household staff who have varying degrees of education, experience and maturity. Control, organize, motivate and plan their tasks. Utilize Microsoft To Do/Wunderlist to track activities. Help members of the staff who are less tech savvy to download apps and use them.

Track work, different than controlling.

And anyone with an AP knows that they frequently have to be shown how to do EVERYTHING, sometimes multiple times.