What are your thoughts on Blair NON-Magnet?

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't know what the deal with the UMd admissions requirements is, but I also really don't think it is as dire as PP says it is, based on how students at other MCPS high schools do on the same metric.

So, for BCC that number is 47%

For Blair it is 31%

For WJ it is 50%

For Whitman it is 58%.

Are folks prepared to argue that more than half of the kids who graduate from BCC are not college-ready?

Amost certainly not. Which means this metric is flawed. There is absolutely room for Blair (and every other MCPS HS) to do better by its most vulnerable kids, but we need to move off that particular metric because it clearly doesn't mean what folks want it to mean.

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..


Think for a min that 31% for Blair is about 1000 kids
700 or so kids are magnet or cap mostly from OOB, most of those are part of the 31%
That leaves 300 or so kids out of the remaining 2500 students which means 12% of the general population leave qualified for an decent State school

That is Kennedy/ Einstein level performance. Mediocre at best

While the dig at the end is petty, the break out of kids is startling and concerning for the non-magnet kids. Any parents care to address those? Overblown ?

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..

Sure lots of DCC kids in CAP and SMAC but that still leaves 12% of the 2500 non-magnet qualified for UMD. That is 88% of the normal kids not making the cut. Using your same argument the top performers are also taken out of the Whitman’s that still manage 58%.

Feel free to counter the school is still good but it is the kids that struggle and couldn’t be helped . I am not sure how one can reconcile that a fridge full of old food doesn’t stink even if 12% doesn’t

Like others have said, there's something funky about that statistic. You can look on mdreportcard and see that 75.40% of Blair graduates enrolled in college within 12 months.

Exactly, until we understand why 42% of Whitman students aren't qualified for the MD University system, we can't pick apart why 69% of Blair students aren't. And while it's plausible that Blair CAP and Magnet students aren't in this category, that's not automatic--find me a Whitman parent would guess correctly that only 6/10 of their kid's classmates hit the MD benchmark.

One piece of the MD benchmark is having a cumulative GPA of C or better--from the UMD website that's defined as a 2.5. If you look at a Whitman class profile, 19% of graduating students have an unweighted GPA bellow 2.5. If you look at a Blair profile, 21% of graduates have an unweighted GPA bellow 2.5. If you look at a magnet profile
*none* have a GPA bellow 2.5. There isn't information on CAP. But if the assumption is all the low GPA students are in the regular population (which accounts for 77% of the school population), that means only 56% of the regular population has a GPA above 2.5 at graduation. (And yes this is grabbing data from different sources, and making assumptions, but it's a start.)

So that is significant. 81% of Whitman students meet the GPA benchmark, and only 56% of regular Blair students do.

But, only 47% of Blair students have never been on FARMS, while somewhere over 95% (too high to report) of Whitman students are non-FARMS. Magnet/CAP is also likely 95% or higher non-FARMS. So, playing the same game, only 24.3% of the regular Blair population is non-FARMS.

So then the question people are interested in, how do FARMS and low-GPA students overlap in the *regular* Blair population? (And the real axe to grind would be if non-FARMS students have significantly worse outcomes at Blair than at Whitman.) We know at Whitman 19% of non-FARMS students have low GPA. Is the percent higher or lower at Blair? We can't tell. But the PP, has been playing with a suspect statistic and trying to prove it can't be the same--it has to be much worse. Looking at the GPA benchmark, there's no way to make that argument. If it is the same, there's no inconsistency to be seen.

Suppose it is the same: 19% of regular-population, non-FARMS Blair students have low GPA, just like 19% of (entirely) non-FARMS Whitman students do. That's 19% of 579 students: 110 students. Overall at Blair 21% of 3083 students have low GPA: 647 students. This means 537 FARMS student have low GPA. So given there are 1804 FARMS students, (537/1804) 30% have low GPA. And remember this was with the assumption that no one in Magnet/CAP has low GPA. There's no way to know that this is the breakdown, but there's nothing implausible about the calculation that results. The GPA benchmark doesn't raise any alarms.

Finally, it can't be ignored that magnet/CAP are part of Blair, and students do interact. So overall 30% of FARMS students have low GPA, but once the magnet is included, only (110/(3083-1804)) 8.5% of non-FARMS students have low GPA. Compare that to Whitman, where 19% students have low GPA without the excuse of hardship. I won't kid myself that being around magnet students makes my student higher achieving, just like being around FARMS students doesn't rub off. But context matters, and if my kid is a suburbanite with a 20% fail rate expected, may as well dilute that behavior with examples of overachieving Magnet kids and FARMS students fighting long odds. If anything, I'm more concerned about a school where everyone's on easy street, yet one in five can't be bothered to work. YMMV.

CAP requires that students maintain an overall 2.75 GPA

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that no one has commented on the real differences between being in a low vs high performing school. Its grading.

It is incredibly difficult for ANY teacher to not be influenced by the psychological bell curve when applying a grading rubric. You don't want to give every single kid an A and you also don't want a situation where none or get kids ever get an A. You will either consciously or subconsciously adjust your expectations against the rubric to match the population. If you applied the standard used in the non-Magnet at Blair with Whitman every single kid going through you class at Whitman would get straight As. If you applied the standard used in Whitman with Blair non-magnet every single kid in your class would either fail or be getting low Bs at best.

This is how the peer group self re-enforces high performance. The academic quality of the peer group influences not just group projects and discussions but it strongly influences the teacher's application of the grading rubric. This happens as early as elementary school so the students coming up with a strong peer group are being held to much higher standards even though the curriculum is the same. In any curriculum for any assignment that isn't a basic multiple choice scanned form, a grading rubric with qualitative assessments is involved.

That might make sense on paper (if you cleaned up your sentences ), but it really doesn't apply at Blair. First, MCPS doesn't allow curve grading or extra credit, for exactly these reasons. The rubric needs to be set to the material, not the population, and not adjusted after the fact. Second, of course that is still an imperfect system, but although Blair is not a homogenous school and the numbers are large enough that there are peer groups at all ability levels. E.g., all magnet students have to take 9th grade honors English, and they'll be in class with regular population who are honors track. By senior year AP English, there are magnet and CAP and regular population students in the sections. There is a critical mass of hard working, capable students in these classes, just like there would be at Whitman, so no reason to expect the grading to be compromised. Same for math and science, neither of my DCs has taken a magnet class so far, but they've been held to high standards at Blair. Finally there's more than one way for grade inflation to take root, it can be low expectations, but it can also be from parental interference. If you do have a homogeneous population like Whitman, there are more emails demanding a remedy with each deviation from expectations--that wears on teachers, too--and ultimately everyone is in honors, everyone gets an A. It's not automatic that grading gets harder.

I have no experience with Whitman, but I really don't think swapping exams would be as clear cut as you imagine. Just compare AP results across the schools, and, no, don't bother eliminating magnet students from the counts. Your argument is that there aren't enough quality students at Blair to keep up standards, but you can't have it both ways. If there are enough magnet/CAP students to prop up AP results, there are also enough to maintain rigorous grading standards day-to-day.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't know what the deal with the UMd admissions requirements is, but I also really don't think it is as dire as PP says it is, based on how students at other MCPS high schools do on the same metric.

So, for BCC that number is 47%

For Blair it is 31%

For WJ it is 50%

For Whitman it is 58%.

Are folks prepared to argue that more than half of the kids who graduate from BCC are not college-ready?

Amost certainly not. Which means this metric is flawed. There is absolutely room for Blair (and every other MCPS HS) to do better by its most vulnerable kids, but we need to move off that particular metric because it clearly doesn't mean what folks want it to mean.

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..


Think for a min that 31% for Blair is about 1000 kids
700 or so kids are magnet or cap mostly from OOB, most of those are part of the 31%
That leaves 300 or so kids out of the remaining 2500 students which means 12% of the general population leave qualified for an decent State school

That is Kennedy/ Einstein level performance. Mediocre at best

While the dig at the end is petty, the break out of kids is startling and concerning for the non-magnet kids. Any parents care to address those? Overblown ?

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..

Sure lots of DCC kids in CAP and SMAC but that still leaves 12% of the 2500 non-magnet qualified for UMD. That is 88% of the normal kids not making the cut. Using your same argument the top performers are also taken out of the Whitman’s that still manage 58%.

Feel free to counter the school is still good but it is the kids that struggle and couldn’t be helped . I am not sure how one can reconcile that a fridge full of old food doesn’t stink even if 12% doesn’t

Like others have said, there's something funky about that statistic. You can look on mdreportcard and see that 75.40% of Blair graduates enrolled in college within 12 months.

Most of those are most likely open access community college . Also think about it 75% of graduates, the 31% counts all the kids who don't graduate so it is a little apples to oranges

Montgomery college is absolutely the number one destination for Blair graduates

And????
But Blair sends more students to the Ivies than any W school.

And more to prison, but you don’t really know that. The self reported metic is accepted, not attending. It should also be note most of those Ivy’s are magnet kids who most likely live inbounds to a W. Most of the merit scholars are

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't know what the deal with the UMd admissions requirements is, but I also really don't think it is as dire as PP says it is, based on how students at other MCPS high schools do on the same metric.

So, for BCC that number is 47%

For Blair it is 31%

For WJ it is 50%

For Whitman it is 58%.

Are folks prepared to argue that more than half of the kids who graduate from BCC are not college-ready?

Amost certainly not. Which means this metric is flawed. There is absolutely room for Blair (and every other MCPS HS) to do better by its most vulnerable kids, but we need to move off that particular metric because it clearly doesn't mean what folks want it to mean.

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..


Think for a min that 31% for Blair is about 1000 kids
700 or so kids are magnet or cap mostly from OOB, most of those are part of the 31%
That leaves 300 or so kids out of the remaining 2500 students which means 12% of the general population leave qualified for an decent State school

That is Kennedy/ Einstein level performance. Mediocre at best

While the dig at the end is petty, the break out of kids is startling and concerning for the non-magnet kids. Any parents care to address those? Overblown ?

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..

Sure lots of DCC kids in CAP and SMAC but that still leaves 12% of the 2500 non-magnet qualified for UMD. That is 88% of the normal kids not making the cut. Using your same argument the top performers are also taken out of the Whitman’s that still manage 58%.

Feel free to counter the school is still good but it is the kids that struggle and couldn’t be helped . I am not sure how one can reconcile that a fridge full of old food doesn’t stink even if 12% doesn’t

Like others have said, there's something funky about that statistic. You can look on mdreportcard and see that 75.40% of Blair graduates enrolled in college within 12 months.

Most of those are most likely open access community college . Also think about it 75% of graduates, the 31% counts all the kids who don't graduate so it is a little apples to oranges

Montgomery college is absolutely the number one destination for Blair graduates

And????
But Blair sends more students to the Ivies than any W school.

And more to prison, but you don’t really know that. The self reported metic is accepted, not attending. It should also be note most of those Ivy’s are magnet kids who most likely live inbounds to a W. Most of the merit scholars are

And choose to go to Blair because the W schools don't measure up.
They know that they will never win intel if they go to their local W schools, and they don't want to be innocent victims of drugs deals gone wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't know what the deal with the UMd admissions requirements is, but I also really don't think it is as dire as PP says it is, based on how students at other MCPS high schools do on the same metric.

So, for BCC that number is 47%

For Blair it is 31%

For WJ it is 50%

For Whitman it is 58%.

Are folks prepared to argue that more than half of the kids who graduate from BCC are not college-ready?

Amost certainly not. Which means this metric is flawed. There is absolutely room for Blair (and every other MCPS HS) to do better by its most vulnerable kids, but we need to move off that particular metric because it clearly doesn't mean what folks want it to mean.

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..


Think for a min that 31% for Blair is about 1000 kids
700 or so kids are magnet or cap mostly from OOB, most of those are part of the 31%
That leaves 300 or so kids out of the remaining 2500 students which means 12% of the general population leave qualified for an decent State school

That is Kennedy/ Einstein level performance. Mediocre at best

While the dig at the end is petty, the break out of kids is startling and concerning for the non-magnet kids. Any parents care to address those? Overblown ?

Remember CAP and SMAC include lots of DCC kids. You are skimming off many of the top performers..

Sure lots of DCC kids in CAP and SMAC but that still leaves 12% of the 2500 non-magnet qualified for UMD. That is 88% of the normal kids not making the cut. Using your same argument the top performers are also taken out of the Whitman’s that still manage 58%.

Feel free to counter the school is still good but it is the kids that struggle and couldn’t be helped . I am not sure how one can reconcile that a fridge full of old food doesn’t stink even if 12% doesn’t

Like others have said, there's something funky about that statistic. You can look on mdreportcard and see that 75.40% of Blair graduates enrolled in college within 12 months.

Most of those are most likely open access community college . Also think about it 75% of graduates, the 31% counts all the kids who don't graduate so it is a little apples to oranges

Montgomery college is absolutely the number one destination for Blair graduates

And????
But Blair sends more students to the Ivies than any W school.

And more to prison, but you don’t really know that. The self reported metic is accepted, not attending. It should also be note most of those Ivy’s are magnet kids who most likely live inbounds to a W. Most of the merit scholars are

What ? Most things I read here say the Ws are so good that they would never consider a magnet? Now they take credit for all the success!

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I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

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^^^^ Nothing will shut down a thread of know-nothing opinions quicker than an introduction of an inconvenient fact.

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Anonymous wrote:I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

I don't see link supporting your post. Provide link that shows student by program (SMAC, CAP, non-magnet) and where they are going. Above link just shows student names and college names. Make us believers!

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Anonymous wrote:I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

I don't see link supporting your post. Provide link that shows student by program (SMAC, CAP, non-magnet) and where they are going. Above link just shows student names and college names. Make us believers!

NP: If you want to do the work, people in the past have posted the CAP list and SMAC list and compared it to the list of Blair overall admits.

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Anonymous wrote:I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

I don't see link supporting your post. Provide link that shows student by program (SMAC, CAP, non-magnet) and where they are going. Above link just shows student names and college names. Make us believers!

LOL! That list contains over 700 names. SMAC + CAP combined are only about 175 kids.

And for the record, that year the SMAC and CAP destinations were powerfully impressive. Feel free to match up destinations on your own time.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730523.page
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730693.page

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Anonymous wrote:I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

I don't see link supporting your post. Provide link that shows student by program (SMAC, CAP, non-magnet) and where they are going. Above link just shows student names and college names. Make us believers!

NP: If you want to do the work, people in the past have posted the CAP list and SMAC list and compared it to the list of Blair overall admits.

I am not the one making the claim. All I am asking is where is the proof?

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Anonymous wrote:I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

I don't see link supporting your post. Provide link that shows student by program (SMAC, CAP, non-magnet) and where they are going. Above link just shows student names and college names. Make us believers!

NP: If you want to do the work, people in the past have posted the CAP list and SMAC list and compared it to the list of Blair overall admits.

I am not the one making the claim. All I am asking is where is the proof?

The proof would be sifting through names, be glad someone did it for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I see that once again I have to re-surface an old post to disprove a tired and entirely false myth that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. The following, from a post from June 2018, is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. That is, regular as in non-CAP, non-SMAC....


There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu

I don't see link supporting your post. Provide link that shows student by program (SMAC, CAP, non-magnet) and where they are going. Above link just shows student names and college names. Make us believers!

LOL! That list contains over 700 names. SMAC + CAP combined are only about 175 kids.

And for the record, that year the SMAC and CAP destinations were powerfully impressive. Feel free to match up destinations on your own time.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730523.page
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730693.page

I know that 4 kids went to Stanford. 2 from SMAC and 2 from non-magnet.