Attorney General files suit against 16 people for school residency fraud

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They should ignore it and focus on steps that will actually help DC students. Not pretend they're fixing DC schools through the creation of scapegoats.

So DC government should just allow folks from all over to enroll their kids in DCPS while DC taxpayers foot the bill? How is applying the per student allocation to children who do not have the right to attend supposed to fix DC schools?

Or fix the schools in the states they live in as they are not being counted. Most cases not only is DC paying for school, but also public assistance.

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DP. It's cute that you think everyone can "plan ahead adequately" about the schools where they can afford to live.

So do we just open the borders then? If people like you think it's fine to educate MD kids on DC's dime, make it policy so that they don't have to cheat and lie! I think it's terrible that children see parents cheating and lying and are party to it.

This is the real question, and I would love to hear the response. Apparently, people think it's fine foe DC to pay to educate MD children. Is that right?
DC is a very liberal city and the citizen’s elected officials are for open borders for people who from thousands miles away with no connection to the city. Yet, these same people are so hostile to the neighbor across the state line who rides the bus aiding the city’s special need students on and off the bus.

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DC is a very liberal city and the citizen’s elected officials are for open borders for people who from thousands miles away with no connection to the city. Yet, these same people are so hostile to the neighbor across the state line who rides the bus aiding the city’s special need students on and off the bus.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. We have homeless kids in DC who can't even travel safely to a school they are entitled to attend but I'm supposed to feel sympathy for these cheaters?

Get outta here with that mess.

let me tell you, suing a bus aide for treble damages is NOT going to mean that DC magically supports homeless kids better. that's not the way it works.

So which is it?

Should DC investigate and deal with residency fraud ? Or should they ignore it and do nothing ?

The bus aid knew she was doing the wrong thing and choose to take the risk.

I hope I am on her jury. They will not get an unanimous verdict. I don’t shun shun jury duty. The box aide moved her child once that child completed the year. She did not want to pull her out in the middle. You have no idea why someone earning so little money was forced to leave a gentrifying g city in the middle of a school year. I hope she gets some pro bono legal help and fight. With that said, I am not saying that some of these claims shouldn’t be pursued, but be filing this one, Racine does himself no favors.

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DP. It's cute that you think everyone can "plan ahead adequately" about the schools where they can afford to live.

So do we just open the borders then? If people like you think it's fine to educate MD kids on DC's dime, make it policy so that they don't have to cheat and lie! I think it's terrible that children see parents cheating and lying and are party to it.

This is the real question, and I would love to hear the response. Apparently, people think it's fine foe DC to pay to educate MD children. Is that right?
DC is a very liberal city and the citizen’s elected officials are for open borders for people who from thousands miles away with no connection to the city. Yet, these same people are so hostile to the neighbor across the state line who rides the bus aiding the city’s special need students on and off the bus.

Strangely, it seems that none of the people who come from thousands of miles away are committing residency fraud. Those who have "no connection to the city" tend to enroll their children in the schools of the locality in which they reside.

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What is the statute of limitations for these claims? Seems likely some of them are untimely

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DP. It's cute that you think everyone can "plan ahead adequately" about the schools where they can afford to live.

So do we just open the borders then? If people like you think it's fine to educate MD kids on DC's dime, make it policy so that they don't have to cheat and lie! I think it's terrible that children see parents cheating and lying and are party to it.

This is the real question, and I would love to hear the response. Apparently, people think it's fine foe DC to pay to educate MD children. Is that right?
DC is a very liberal city and the citizen’s elected officials are for open borders for people who from thousands miles away with no connection to the city. Yet, these same people are so hostile to the neighbor across the state line who rides the bus aiding the city’s special need students on and off the bus.

Strangely, it seems that none of the people who come from thousands of miles away are committing residency fraud. Those who have "no connection to the city" tend to enroll their children in the schools of the locality in which they reside.

Nah, they are just committing immigration fraud. Whoosh.

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License plates are not a good determinate of residency. People move between DC, MD, and VA without updating all of the time updating licenses but not registration.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean really, a false-claims act suit against a DC bus attendant who moved to MD? I get why these have to be done, but yeah ... harsh. I wish there were a better way. At a minimum, it seems really harsh to employ people in DC who can't afford to live here.

Come on, people are stealing 10s-100s of thousands of DC tax dollars for convenience and to game the system. I don't care what your income is- MD has the same services. It's not like they would go without.

It's not for convenience. Some parents are desperately trying to break the cycle of poverty and offer their kids a fighting chance.

When I first moved to the DMV the only place that I could afford was in PG County. When my child was ready for kindergarten, the local school options were horrific. Like 2+2=hot dog kinds of horrific. I began looking at charter and specialty schools, but they were only a notch above the other schools. I considered private, but got scared by the costs (before I knew that we would be eligible for FA), so we entered the DC lottery (with our real address and being completely transparent). We were admitted to a DC school and I began to inquire what I would need to do to pay the required tuition for out of state students. No. One. Knew. Not one staff member knew what to do. Because I didn't want to break the rules I ended up red-shirting my kid (August bday) and then I started talking to privates who helped me better understand that despite being well above the poverty level (although still poor in the DMV), I would still qualify for some financial aid. I pay what I would have paid if I was able to pay for the DC public school, but most people can't afford that.

Sorry, but that is a BS excuse. PG schools are no worse than the DC ones in this lawsuit. The difference is that DC offers free child care. Which we, DC residents, pay for, through taxes. It's expensive and not a social service for MD residents.

My life and the educational future of my kid is not a "BS excuse". I'm not sure which schools are listed in the lawsuit, but our options were schools that ranked #836 out of the 853 public elementary schools in the state of Maryland. It's my responsibility to give my child a fighting chance and while definitely ethically questionable, it's more like a case of a man with no money who steals bread to feed his family.

Are you sure that the *only* place you could afford to live was a place with horrible schools? Or was it that you didn't plan ahead adequately re: schools before you moved there?

Before moving here I was freshly divorced, homeless, and unemployed staying temporarily with a friend in Cecil County. After MANY months of searching in several states I finally got a job offer in DC and with extremely limited money took a small one bedroom apartment that I could afford. When I started to get back on my feet financially I looked for places in better areas/school districts and my rent would have TRIPLED for even a crappy 2 bedroom apartment in the city or Montgo.

Let me guess - you're a pro-lifer who then treats poor people like societal leeches when they fall on hard times, even temporarily. You and your judgement are what's wrong with this world and I'm done wasting energy on jerks like you.

NP here. Who actually lives in PG.
You don’t need to insult posters who dare to point out the inconsistencies in your holier-than-thou post after you yourself insulted an entire county’s educational system with false information. I’m sorry you landed on hard times and ended up in a bad elementary school zone. But the truth is, most ES in PG are perfectly acceptable, if not better than most DCPS, and the specialty schools, particularly the ones entered at K, are not a mere “notch” above but some of the most highly ranked schools in the state. In all likelihood you could have found an apartment one block over and been fine, rather than panic, snub an entire county and look at tuition options. And maybe you didn’t lottery in to a specialty school, but that doesn’t give you license to insult them.
I’m glad the private route seems to have worked out for you but don’t try to retroactively spin your particular choices as the only viable ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck collecting. These people don’t have that money and what’s the deal with asking for 68k for a kid who spent one year in the school. At the beginning of the year the kid was a DC resident He moved during the school year. Where is the apportionment. If I’m on that jury, DC loses just for being an overly aggressive butthole.

I imagine that with DC employees they can garnish fairly easily....

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck collecting. These people don’t have that money and what’s the deal with asking for 68k for a kid who spent one year in the school. At the beginning of the year the kid was a DC resident He moved during the school year. Where is the apportionment. If I’m on that jury, DC loses just for being an overly aggressive butthole.

I imagine that with DC employees they can garnish fairly easily....

+1.

Any public employees should easily be made to pay what they owe.

And then be fired.

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As a DC resident, I would like to enroll at a VA or MD school of my choice. For free. I am happy to drive ?

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Anonymous wrote: DC is a very liberal city and the citizen’s elected officials are for open borders for people who from thousands miles away with no connection to the city. Yet, these same people are so hostile to the neighbor across the state line who rides the bus aiding the city’s special need students on and off the bus.

OK Trump Troll, I'll bite.

To paraphrase Mean Girls, do you even go here?

1. Please name the elected officials AND provide documented evidence that ANY of them have called for open national borders.

2. Just like EVERYWHERE the only "connection to the city" needed is to LIVE HERE. How many "connections" are needed for residency? Two immediate relatives? One year of college? Can you cite DC regulations to validate your bias against immigrants/foreigners/outsiders?

3. Newsflash: "state lines" ARE open borders. That's what the United part of the United States means. That's why you don't need a passport to take the Metro and why Florida oranges don't have tariffs applied in New Jersey. Our "neighbors" in Virginia can buy guns like candy, but that doesn't mean we have to have the same archaic laws in the District. Meanwhile we "liberals" get trampled by supposedly small-government Republican "neighbors" from both VA and MD.

4. Bus aides are not volunteers. Transportation for disabled students is mandated by FEDERAL LAW. It's not a nice-to-have amenity. You don't get points for being a professional.

Show receipts or STFU

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Anonymous wrote:I mean really, a false-claims act suit against a DC bus attendant who moved to MD? I get why these have to be done, but yeah ... harsh. I wish there were a better way. At a minimum, it seems really harsh to employ people in DC who can't afford to live here.

Come on, people are stealing 10s-100s of thousands of DC tax dollars for convenience and to game the system. I don't care what your income is- MD has the same services. It's not like they would go without.

It's not for convenience. Some parents are desperately trying to break the cycle of poverty and offer their kids a fighting chance.

When I first moved to the DMV the only place that I could afford was in PG County. When my child was ready for kindergarten, the local school options were horrific. Like 2+2=hot dog kinds of horrific. I began looking at charter and specialty schools, but they were only a notch above the other schools. I considered private, but got scared by the costs (before I knew that we would be eligible for FA), so we entered the DC lottery (with our real address and being completely transparent). We were admitted to a DC school and I began to inquire what I would need to do to pay the required tuition for out of state students. No. One. Knew. Not one staff member knew what to do. Because I didn't want to break the rules I ended up red-shirting my kid (August bday) and then I started talking to privates who helped me better understand that despite being well above the poverty level (although still poor in the DMV), I would still qualify for some financial aid. I pay what I would have paid if I was able to pay for the DC public school, but most people can't afford that.

Sorry, but that is a BS excuse. PG schools are no worse than the DC ones in this lawsuit. The difference is that DC offers free child care. Which we, DC residents, pay for, through taxes. It's expensive and not a social service for MD residents.

My life and the educational future of my kid is not a "BS excuse". I'm not sure which schools are listed in the lawsuit, but our options were schools that ranked #836 out of the 853 public elementary schools in the state of Maryland. It's my responsibility to give my child a fighting chance and while definitely ethically questionable, it's more like a case of a man with no money who steals bread to feed his family.

Are you sure that the *only* place you could afford to live was a place with horrible schools? Or was it that you didn't plan ahead adequately re: schools before you moved there?

Before moving here I was freshly divorced, homeless, and unemployed staying temporarily with a friend in Cecil County. After MANY months of searching in several states I finally got a job offer in DC and with extremely limited money took a small one bedroom apartment that I could afford. When I started to get back on my feet financially I looked for places in better areas/school districts and my rent would have TRIPLED for even a crappy 2 bedroom apartment in the city or Montgo.

Let me guess - you're a pro-lifer who then treats poor people like societal leeches when they fall on hard times, even temporarily. You and your judgement are what's wrong with this world and I'm done wasting energy on jerks like you.

NP here. Who actually lives in PG.
You don’t need to insult posters who dare to point out the inconsistencies in your holier-than-thou post after you yourself insulted an entire county’s educational system with false information. I’m sorry you landed on hard times and ended up in a bad elementary school zone. But the truth is, most ES in PG are perfectly acceptable, if not better than most DCPS, and the specialty schools, particularly the ones entered at K, are not a mere “notch” above but some of the most highly ranked schools in the state. In all likelihood you could have found an apartment one block over and been fine, rather than panic, snub an entire county and look at tuition options. And maybe you didn’t lottery in to a specialty school, but that doesn’t give you license to insult them.
I’m glad the private route seems to have worked out for you but don’t try to retroactively spin your particular choices as the only viable ones.

Exactly, many of the schools listed are not top-tier the reason many MD folk register their kids in DC is convenience for their job, someone they know etc. The PP argument is ridiculous as that would mean all PG students should be allowed in DC. There are lots of hard working folks in DC and PG who are low-income and making it, is it difficult, of course it is but life is not perfect but there are many ways to make it work as the majority do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck collecting. These people don’t have that money and what’s the deal with asking for 68k for a kid who spent one year in the school. At the beginning of the year the kid was a DC resident He moved during the school year. Where is the apportionment. If I’m on that jury, DC loses just for being an overly aggressive butthole.

It's not about collecting. It's about scaring off future violators.

+1000

Exactly. They do not expect to collect. They have now instilled fear in people who are violating residency rules.