Dems now targeting mcps school names

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of wasting all that money satisfying their White Guilt, maybe MCPS should take the millions of dollars that it would require to change all these names and donate it to an organization working to stop modern day slavery in Africa where 9.2 million people live in servitude.

How much money? Please tell us how you know.

As for "white guilt," I'm going to assume that you don't live in Montgomery County and are unfamiliar with the Montgomery County Board of Education.

DP

How about we spend ZERO dollars on this?

This can be done on a school by school basis.

If people at a particular school dislike the person who it's named for, they can advocate for change.

This is NOT something the BOE/MCPS needs to be wasting time/money on. If it is an issue at a certain school, then the students and teachers and parents can advocate for a name change. And, the BOE can decide one way or the other.

There are so many other things that MCPS needs to focus on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of wasting all that money satisfying their White Guilt, maybe MCPS should take the millions of dollars that it would require to change all these names and donate it to an organization working to stop modern day slavery in Africa where 9.2 million people live in servitude.

How much money? Please tell us how you know.

As for "white guilt," I'm going to assume that you don't live in Montgomery County and are unfamiliar with the Montgomery County Board of Education.

DP

How about we spend ZERO dollars on this?

This can be done on a school by school basis.

If people at a particular school dislike the person who it's named for, they can advocate for change.

This is NOT something the BOE/MCPS needs to be wasting time/money on. If it is an issue at a certain school, then the students and teachers and parents can advocate for a name change. And, the BOE can decide one way or the other.

There are so many other things that MCPS needs to focus on.

MCPS is a big organization and can focus on multiple things at once.

And the reason for this study of MCPS school namesakes is: people advocating for change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope they investigate Martin Luther King (for which there is a MCPS middle school with his name). His treatment of women would not be acceptable today and might have crossed over to criminal.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/04/how-to-make-sense-of-the-shocking-new-mlk-documents-227042

Good grief, there's nothing like "maybe we shouldn't have schools named after people who owned people" to bring out the bigotry and what-aboutism, is there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of wasting all that money satisfying their White Guilt, maybe MCPS should take the millions of dollars that it would require to change all these names and donate it to an organization working to stop modern day slavery in Africa where 9.2 million people live in servitude.

How much money? Please tell us how you know.

As for "white guilt," I'm going to assume that you don't live in Montgomery County and are unfamiliar with the Montgomery County Board of Education.

DP

How about we spend ZERO dollars on this?

This can be done on a school by school basis.

If people at a particular school dislike the person who it's named for, they can advocate for change.

This is NOT something the BOE/MCPS needs to be wasting time/money on. If it is an issue at a certain school, then the students and teachers and parents can advocate for a name change. And, the BOE can decide one way or the other.

There are so many other things that MCPS needs to focus on.

MCPS is a big organization and can focus on multiple things at once.

And the reason for this study of MCPS school namesakes is: people advocating for change.

MCPS IS a big organization - maybe too big.

But, it's apparent that MCPS actually isn't focusing on the important things. I'd prefer they spend some time addressing the sexual assault issues that have plagued the county this past decade and make some concrete changes to address the issues. Instead, there has been silence and cover ups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of wasting all that money satisfying their White Guilt, maybe MCPS should take the millions of dollars that it would require to change all these names and donate it to an organization working to stop modern day slavery in Africa where 9.2 million people live in servitude.

How much money? Please tell us how you know.

As for "white guilt," I'm going to assume that you don't live in Montgomery County and are unfamiliar with the Montgomery County Board of Education.

DP

How about we spend ZERO dollars on this?

This can be done on a school by school basis.

If people at a particular school dislike the person who it's named for, they can advocate for change.

This is NOT something the BOE/MCPS needs to be wasting time/money on. If it is an issue at a certain school, then the students and teachers and parents can advocate for a name change. And, the BOE can decide one way or the other.

There are so many other things that MCPS needs to focus on.

MCPS is a big organization and can focus on multiple things at once.

And the reason for this study of MCPS school namesakes is: people advocating for change.

MCPS IS a big organization - maybe too big.

But, it's apparent that MCPS actually isn't focusing on the important things. I'd prefer they spend some time addressing the sexual assault issues that have plagued the county this past decade and make some concrete changes to address the issues. Instead, there has been silence and cover ups.

There are very few sexual assault vixtims in MCPS. Glorifying slave-owners with school names hurts the feeling of hundreds and may be thousands AA students, parents, admin, and teachers. They are apples and oranges. All should be taken cared in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of wasting all that money satisfying their White Guilt, maybe MCPS should take the millions of dollars that it would require to change all these names and donate it to an organization working to stop modern day slavery in Africa where 9.2 million people live in servitude.

How much money? Please tell us how you know.

As for "white guilt," I'm going to assume that you don't live in Montgomery County and are unfamiliar with the Montgomery County Board of Education.

DP

How about we spend ZERO dollars on this?

This can be done on a school by school basis.

If people at a particular school dislike the person who it's named for, they can advocate for change.

This is NOT something the BOE/MCPS needs to be wasting time/money on. If it is an issue at a certain school, then the students and teachers and parents can advocate for a name change. And, the BOE can decide one way or the other.

There are so many other things that MCPS needs to focus on.

MCPS is a big organization and can focus on multiple things at once.

And the reason for this study of MCPS school namesakes is: people advocating for change.

MCPS IS a big organization - maybe too big.

But, it's apparent that MCPS actually isn't focusing on the important things. I'd prefer they spend some time addressing the sexual assault issues that have plagued the county this past decade and make some concrete changes to address the issues. Instead, there has been silence and cover ups.

MCPS can do both.

And while you may not think this is an important thing, I disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they investigate Martin Luther King (for which there is a MCPS middle school with his name). His treatment of women would not be acceptable today and might have crossed over to criminal.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/04/how-to-make-sense-of-the-shocking-new-mlk-documents-227042

Good grief, there's nothing like "maybe we shouldn't have schools named after people who owned people" to bring out the bigotry and what-aboutism, is there?

Do you think we should have an MCPS school named after Martin Luther King or not? I think we should because should because of his heroic fight against racism and discrimination in the US,
even if his treatment of women bordered on the criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they investigate Martin Luther King (for which there is a MCPS middle school with his name). His treatment of women would not be acceptable today and might have crossed over to criminal.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/04/how-to-make-sense-of-the-shocking-new-mlk-documents-227042

Good grief, there's nothing like "maybe we shouldn't have schools named after people who owned people" to bring out the bigotry and what-aboutism, is there?

Do you think we should have an MCPS school named after Martin Luther King or not? I think we should because should because of his heroic fight against racism and discrimination in the US,
even if his treatment of women bordered on the criminal.

As long as no woman askes for it , Matin Luther King’s name is same in public spaces .

[Anonymous]

I think moral equivalent would be some town in Germany having a school named after say Eichmann. Would be interesting to hear what "what abouts" people would have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they investigate Martin Luther King (for which there is a MCPS middle school with his name). His treatment of women would not be acceptable today and might have crossed over to criminal.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/04/how-to-make-sense-of-the-shocking-new-mlk-documents-227042

Good grief, there's nothing like "maybe we shouldn't have schools named after people who owned people" to bring out the bigotry and what-aboutism, is there?

Do you think we should have an MCPS school named after Martin Luther King or not? I think we should because should because of his heroic fight against racism and discrimination in the US,
even if his treatment of women bordered on the criminal.

Fair point.

MLK-named institutions should be renamed in the #MeToo era.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they investigate Martin Luther King (for which there is a MCPS middle school with his name). His treatment of women would not be acceptable today and might have crossed over to criminal.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/04/how-to-make-sense-of-the-shocking-new-mlk-documents-227042

Good grief, there's nothing like "maybe we shouldn't have schools named after people who owned people" to bring out the bigotry and what-aboutism, is there?

Do you think we should have an MCPS school named after Martin Luther King or not? I think we should because should because of his heroic fight against racism and discrimination in the US,
even if his treatment of women bordered on the criminal.

Fair point.

MLK-named institutions should be renamed in the #MeToo era.

Agreed.

If we are going to rename schools, MLK needs to go also. Why would MLK get a pass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Agreed.

If we are going to rename schools, MLK needs to go also. Why would MLK get a pass?

You are free to advocate for this to the Board of Education, if you so choose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not?

There are plenty of immigrants who aren't particularly attached to the old names. We are foreigners, and wouldn't want to insert ourselves in such decisions unless we have a green card or become American, but honestly... why not?

Most people here who immigrated the last 50 years could care less about America or its history. Just get rid of it all, they don't care about the PC police.

[Anonymous]

I love revisionist history and whitewashing things under a different lens. Those people accomplished nothing in their time but perpetuated slavery of their times. Evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They never even teach the kids about the people after whom the schools are named anyway. I’d be in favor of just numbering them.

Eighth graders in MCPS learn about Washington and Jefferson in USH. Many of my students last year were shocked to learn that Washington not only owned slaves, but tried to find and reenslave ones who ran away.

Did you happen to teach them that slavery was ubiquitous around the world, and that Washington and the other Founders put their lives on the line to bring the values of the Enlightenment to the "common man"? That without them, we wouldn't have the freedom of speech to argue about the horrors of slavery?