Myth: low income students do better in schools with <25% FARMs rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything you do in the schools is just treating a symptom not the disease. If you don’t fix the challenges facing the families it is just like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom.

+1
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

This sounds like eugenics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything you do in the schools is just treating a symptom not the disease. If you don’t fix the challenges facing the families it is just like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom.

+1
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

This sounds like eugenics.

Free birth control and forced birth control are two different things.

As to the rest of it, middle class and higher generally stick to having children only in wedlock. Teaching to lower classes some of the same behaviors that higher classes use to achieve and maintain more stability would seem to be behavior that demonstrates a desire for equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

Generally, when we're talking about people, we say "have children."

"Breed" is used for animals, and when you use it for people, a reasonable reader will infer that you consider the people you're talking about as not fully human.

[Anonymous]

Of course, low-income students do better at schools that lack concentrated poverty. Who wouldn't? There have been hundreds of studies that show this to be true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

Generally, when we're talking about people, we say "have children."

"Breed" is used for animals, and when you use it for people, a reasonable reader will infer that you consider the people you're talking about as not fully human.

So you have never heard the phrase "well bred"?

You have never come across a reference to someone being a product of "good breeding"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

Generally, when we're talking about people, we say "have children."

"Breed" is used for animals, and when you use it for people, a reasonable reader will infer that you consider the people you're talking about as not fully human.

So you have never heard the phrase "well bred"?

You have never come across a reference to someone being a product of "good breeding"?

Find me a reference to "breeding children into aristocracy", please. Then we'll talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course, low-income students do better at schools that lack concentrated poverty. Who wouldn't? There have been hundreds of studies that show this to be true.

Please post links.l
OP called it “myth” with a link to a report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course, low-income students do better at schools that lack concentrated poverty. Who wouldn't? There have been hundreds of studies that show this to be true.

Please post links.l
OP called it “myth” with a link to a report.

The "report" was a master's student's term paper for a class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

Generally, when we're talking about people, we say "have children."

"Breed" is used for animals, and when you use it for people, a reasonable reader will infer that you consider the people you're talking about as not fully human.

When all you do is have babies and go to the public trough to feed? Is because they have a soul? Like the other special 7 billion people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

When all you do is have babies and go to the public trough to feed? Is because they have a soul? Like the other special 7 billion people?

Ew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything you do in the schools is just treating a symptom not the disease. If you don’t fix the challenges facing the families it is just like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom.

+1
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

This sounds like eugenics.

It's not eugenics. We're importing unskilled, uneducated, illiterate poverty to our sanctuary city to the tune of 10000s a year. And more in the country as a whole. It's a huge cluster*ck in the public schools in CA, MD, FL, TX, AZ. Total mess: kids are 2-4 grade levels behind, graduate and need remedial everything, high absenteeism, high drop-off and teen pregnancy rates, and never master English reading, writing or speaking. Total mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

Generally, when we're talking about people, we say "have children."

"Breed" is used for animals, and when you use it for people, a reasonable reader will infer that you consider the people you're talking about as not fully human.

So you have never heard the phrase "well bred"?

You have never come across a reference to someone being a product of "good breeding"?

Find me a reference to "breeding children into aristocracy", please. Then we'll talk.

every British colony, monarchy and England itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything you do in the schools is just treating a symptom not the disease. If you don’t fix the challenges facing the families it is just like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom.

+1
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

This sounds like eugenics.

Free birth control and forced birth control are two different things.

As to the rest of it, middle class and higher generally stick to having children only in wedlock. Teaching to lower classes some of the same behaviors that higher classes use to achieve and maintain more stability would seem to be behavior that demonstrates a desire for equity.

Yeah, I’m with the poster saying that human breeding is an odd phrase to use. That’s why it comes off sounding like you’re advocating eugenics. Like we need something to stop these dirty breeding people I don’t like from breeding. It doesn’t come across as compassionate at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything you do in the schools is just treating a symptom not the disease. If you don’t fix the challenges facing the families it is just like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom.

+1
No one wants to discuss the big elephant in the room. It is not the school's responsibility that people choose to breed children into the world that they can not afford to raise period! If we are not going to discuss the larger societal problem of poverty, then injecting poor students into wealthy schools is pointless.

We are not discussing family planning, birth control, parental courses, parental counseling, etc. before these kids are even born. The American society refuses to address poverty and now schools have to take on the impossible task of playing the role of a foster parent to kids who should not have been born in the first place from individuals who have no business breeding children.

My prediction is that many wealthy and UMC families will run to private schools. Public schools will become flooded with FARMS, have limited resources, and have a ton of academic obstacles all because individuals refuse to utilize birth control. This is a birth control issue and not a school issue.

Why are schools being blame for parent's lack of personal responsibility? Why didn't these folks have access to birth control, financial planning courses, or parental classes before they decided to bring a child into the world? We need to start teaching family planning, life skill courses, and financial planning starting in high school so that folks will learn from an early age that is not okay to breed children into poverty. Access to free birth control will decrease so many issues.

This sounds like eugenics.

It's not eugenics. We're importing unskilled, uneducated, illiterate poverty to our sanctuary city to the tune of 10000s a year. And more in the country as a whole. It's a huge cluster*ck in the public schools in CA, MD, FL, TX, AZ. Total mess: kids are 2-4 grade levels behind, graduate and need remedial everything, high absenteeism, high drop-off and teen pregnancy rates, and never master English reading, writing or speaking. Total mess.

Honestly ask your self “so what?”

You’re right but you’ll have cheap nannies, law care and produce. Your idiot brother in law will have his prison guard job, your sappy cousin her social worker job. Your wife and you can enjoy that tasty Mexican restaurant on your 1.5 date nights a month.

Honestly so what that there are a bunch of cars in the slow lane when you have an easy pass? While you have to pay for their road, I am pretty sure we get more than our pound of flesh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Find me a reference to "breeding children into aristocracy", please. Then we'll talk.

every British colony, monarchy and England itself.

Not actually a reference.