Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission

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Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.

Troll

Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case

Not a troll at all. This is absolutely true. My mother is from Argentina. My dad is "American." My husband's parents have no Hispanic background. But College Board defines Hispanic as having 1/4 ethnicity. So we went by that definition. We took advantage of a flawed system. And it worked extremely well as he got into every school (top schools). And interestingly, we didn't have to prove it. However, we do have proof if asked. No regrets AT ALL...and he probably would have gotten in anyway due to his extremely high stats. But this was great insurance!

I sacrificed three chickens and bathed in their blood before we sent in the apps. DD probably would have gotten in anyway due to her extremely high stats, but it was great insurance.

+10000 Sprayed coffee all over. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Why'd you spray coffee on the chickens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with everyone that this kid may really be part NA. However, if I were the neighbor - I wouldn't be constantly mentioning how it gives him an advantage. I'm much more private than that.

OP didn't emphasize this, but that is the real problem.

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Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.

Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.

I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.

It is not about skin color or genetic percent. It is about the US government race categories and that is not how they work. The relevant Common App race category is titled "American Indian or Alaska Native" and a check in that box brings up additional boxes asking for US tribal identification. Hispanics in the US with ancestry from Mexico and South America generally will not find it appropriate to check the "American Indian" box even when they know the name of the South American tribe (as is the case in our family, 20% NA per 23andme, which merely gives us a good laugh).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.

Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.

I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.

It is not about skin color or genetic percent. It is about the US government race categories and that is not how they work. The relevant Common App race category is titled "American Indian or Alaska Native" and a check in that box brings up additional boxes asking for US tribal identification. Hispanics in the US with ancestry from Mexico and South America generally will not find it appropriate to check the "American Indian" box even when they know the name of the South American tribe (as is the case in our family, 20% NA per 23andme, which merely gives us a good laugh).

To add, the Common App includes additional boxes that pop up for each race category that provide an opportunity to further specify the countries of ancestry. It does the same for Hispanic ethnicity. Applicants can be as specific as they like.

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Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.

Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.

I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.

It is not about skin color or genetic percent. It is about the US government race categories and that is not how they work. The relevant Common App race category is titled "American Indian or Alaska Native" and a check in that box brings up additional boxes asking for US tribal identification. Hispanics in the US with ancestry from Mexico and South America generally will not find it appropriate to check the "American Indian" box even when they know the name of the South American tribe (as is the case in our family, 20% NA per 23andme, which merely gives us a good laugh).

+1.

The anglos, having close to exterminated all indigenous peoples in the current US, have a tough time understanding that the picture was not as bad south of the border...

Over half of the whole population in Latin America is wholly or partly "Native American".

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Even if the kid is part NA, I don't think this was the intent of any kind of affirmative action. Our society treats people by how they look. If you look Anglo, they will treat you as such.

I'm willing to bet that an Asian immigrant student whose parents are uneducated has a much more challenging background and difficult life than a guy who is part NA and looks completely Anglo. Dollars to doughnuts that this kid has had an All American up bringing.

The whole purpose of "diversity" in colleges is about varying experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.

Troll

Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case

Not a troll at all. This is absolutely true. My mother is from Argentina. My dad is "American." My husband's parents have no Hispanic background. But College Board defines Hispanic as having 1/4 ethnicity. So we went by that definition. We took advantage of a flawed system. And it worked extremely well as he got into every school (top schools). And interestingly, we didn't have to prove it. However, we do have proof if asked. No regrets AT ALL...and he probably would have gotten in anyway due to his extremely high stats. But this was great insurance!

I sacrificed three chickens and bathed in their blood before we sent in the apps. DD probably would have gotten in anyway due to her extremely high stats, but it was great insurance.

+10000 Sprayed coffee all over. Thank you!

South and Central American have tons of people who have come from European countries other that Spain or Portugal. I briefly dated a guy in college who had grown up in Uruguay but had a British accent and ancestry, his parents owned a very large cattle ranch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if the kid is part NA, I don't think this was the intent of any kind of affirmative action. Our society treats people by how they look. If you look Anglo, they will treat you as such.

I'm willing to bet that an Asian immigrant student whose parents are uneducated has a much more challenging background and difficult life than a guy who is part NA and looks completely Anglo. Dollars to doughnuts that this kid has had an All American up bringing.

The whole purpose of "diversity" in colleges is about varying experiences.

I don't necessarily disagree, except, whose intent? The federal government requires that colleges report data in the specified categories.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.

Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.

I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.

It is not about skin color or genetic percent. It is about the US government race categories and that is not how they work. The relevant Common App race category is titled "American Indian or Alaska Native" and a check in that box brings up additional boxes asking for US tribal identification. Hispanics in the US with ancestry from Mexico and South America generally will not find it appropriate to check the "American Indian" box even when they know the name of the South American tribe (as is the case in our family, 20% NA per 23andme, which merely gives us a good laugh).

Being Hispanic is NOT classified as a race category by the federal government. it is considered a heritage/lineage/nationality, and btw includes being an immigrant or child of immigrants from Spain. The "Hispanic box" is NOT in the same list as the race categories, it is a yes/no box all by itself. Federal government very explicitly states someone who is Hispanic can be of ANY race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.

Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.

I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.

It is not about skin color or genetic percent. It is about the US government race categories and that is not how they work. The relevant Common App race category is titled "American Indian or Alaska Native" and a check in that box brings up additional boxes asking for US tribal identification. Hispanics in the US with ancestry from Mexico and South America generally will not find it appropriate to check the "American Indian" box even when they know the name of the South American tribe (as is the case in our family, 20% NA per 23andme, which merely gives us a good laugh).

Being Hispanic is NOT classified as a race category by the federal government. it is considered a heritage/lineage/nationality, and btw includes being an immigrant or child of immigrants from Spain. The "Hispanic box" is NOT in the same list as the race categories, it is a yes/no box all by itself. Federal government very explicitly states someone who is Hispanic can be of ANY race.

Exactly, which is one of the many flaws of affirmative action. Many many wealthy white Hispanics checking that box. And colleges don't care because they want to claim diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.

Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.

I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.

It is not about skin color or genetic percent. It is about the US government race categories and that is not how they work. The relevant Common App race category is titled "American Indian or Alaska Native" and a check in that box brings up additional boxes asking for US tribal identification. Hispanics in the US with ancestry from Mexico and South America generally will not find it appropriate to check the "American Indian" box even when they know the name of the South American tribe (as is the case in our family, 20% NA per 23andme, which merely gives us a good laugh).

Being Hispanic is NOT classified as a race category by the federal government. it is considered a heritage/lineage/nationality, and btw includes being an immigrant or child of immigrants from Spain. The "Hispanic box" is NOT in the same list as the race categories, it is a yes/no box all by itself. Federal government very explicitly states someone who is Hispanic can be of ANY race.

Exactly, which is one of the many flaws of affirmative action. Many many wealthy white Hispanics checking that box. And colleges don't care because they want to claim diversity.

Cultural diversity is still diversity. Diversity doesn’t just mean skin color. I’m mixed AA/Latino. There’s different perspectives based on culture that should be represented in a well-rounded student body.

[Anonymous]

So much scamming all around.