Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission

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The problem with DNA is that it doesn't work the way many people assume. A person with one black parent and one white parent does not necessarily get a 23andme report that says 50% black.

What's especially funny to those of us in mixed-race families is seeing sibling reports with very different ancestry percents. DNA doesn't divide evenly LOL.
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Not at all. 23andme won’t get you on a tribe’s rolls. It won’t even help you out if it turns out the infant you want to adopt has a NA parent and you dig up a NA great-grandparent who never enrolled.


How much African is required for African American


It doesn’t that way, Troll. Technically, my DDs are more European than African. However, they have always lived as AAs. They have attended historically AA churches, participated in clubs, activities, etc that were either focused on AA culture or were majority AA in makeup, and were always registered in school as AA.

This has nothing to do with college admissions or FA. It’s about lived identity. My girls have never identified as anything else.

If someone has always lived as AA from birth, I don’t care if they are 51% European or 90%.


So how do you deny a dna test vs joining clubs


Who is denying a DNA test for AAs?

This country historically has never tried to legislate people who are claiming a black identity only people trying to claim a white one. My great-grandmother has no difficulty passing as a light-skinned Black woman so she could marry my black great-grandfather. There are dozens of other cases that I’ve now become aware of. The one-drop rule’s absurdity meant that authorities were well-accustomed to seeing people who were overwhelmingly of European ancestry living black lives. My family can trace exactly when she crossed the color line and through DNA websites, we’ve found the 100% European descendants of her siblings who are astonished at her life story.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with DNA is that it doesn't work the way many people assume. A person with one black parent and one white parent does not necessarily get a 23andme report that says 50% black.

What's especially funny to those of us in mixed-race families is seeing sibling reports with very different ancestry percents. DNA doesn't divide evenly LOL.


Because race itself is a BS concept, and Americans somehow are still living in the 19th century.....
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with DNA is that it doesn't work the way many people assume. A person with one black parent and one white parent does not necessarily get a 23andme report that says 50% black.

What's especially funny to those of us in mixed-race families is seeing sibling reports with very different ancestry percents. DNA doesn't divide evenly LOL.


Even in ostensibly all AA* families, there are different percentages.

*by all, I mean families with 1 white great-grandparent. I think you have to go back to the 1820s if you want excellent chances to try to find 0% European ancestry among your AA ancestors. And some people may find enslaved ancestors cane from regions where Arabs, Portuguese, and other whites had been mixing with the local population for generations by 1820.
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Ruby Tandoh's grandpa is From Ghana. People that know could tell right away that she has African genes, people that live in their little bubble can't see past their noses. Or you can't tell. I know blonde(white blonde) blue eyes Spaniards here, that can put Hispanic on their applications. Race is a social construct OP, not physical, you should learn that.


I’m the black person mistaken for white upthread. Incidentally, my 2nd grader and I are watching this season right now. I called it—I knew she had some black ancestry! Thanks for confirming!

What a coincidence! She is awesome!
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with DNA is that it doesn't work the way many people assume. A person with one black parent and one white parent does not necessarily get a 23andme report that says 50% black.

What's especially funny to those of us in mixed-race families is seeing sibling reports with very different ancestry percents. DNA doesn't divide evenly LOL.


Well, you get half your DNA from each parent. It does divide evenly. DNA companies are comparing patterns unique to certain population groups to estimate ancestry. If you don't happen to get an even distribution of these unique sequences then the ancestry percentages won't be 50% each, but you still get 50% from each parent.
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Ruby Tandoh's grandpa is From Ghana. People that know could tell right away that she has African genes, people that live in their little bubble can't see past their noses. Or you can't tell. I know blonde(white blonde) blue eyes Spaniards here, that can put Hispanic on their applications. Race is a social construct OP, not physical, you should learn that.


I’m the black person mistaken for white upthread. Incidentally, my 2nd grader and I are watching this season right now. I called it—I knew she had some black ancestry! Thanks for confirming!

What a coincidence! She is awesome!


PP. My kid wants “the teenager” to win—we’ll see!
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with DNA is that it doesn't work the way many people assume. A person with one black parent and one white parent does not necessarily get a 23andme report that says 50% black.

What's especially funny to those of us in mixed-race families is seeing sibling reports with very different ancestry percents. DNA doesn't divide evenly LOL.


Well, you get half your DNA from each parent. It does divide evenly. DNA companies are comparing patterns unique to certain population groups to estimate ancestry. If you don't happen to get an even distribution of these unique sequences then the ancestry percentages won't be 50% each, but you still get 50% from each parent.

Sorry, that's what I was trying to explain. The sibling percents of ancestry vary widely.
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Anonymous wrote:23 and me affirmative action game changer


Not at all. 23andme won’t get you on a tribe’s rolls. It won’t even help you out if it turns out the infant you want to adopt has a NA parent and you dig up a NA great-grandparent who never enrolled.


How much African is required for African American


One fourth of my ancestry is black. I look black. If you ask ten people my ethnicity, they would all say black because of the color of my skin. I've faced the bigotry of people assuming I wasn't "smart," and assuming I got a job due to affirmative action despite having much better grades than white students I graduated with (who also got jobs with the same firm). I've had people talk about how unfair it was that I got into a certain grad school that a white classmate didn't. Luckily one of my white friends who knew both my grades and the other classmate's grades was there to set the record straight. I don't think a percentage cut off can determine if you're black. People would look askance at me if I tried to claim to be something else. My cousin who has more African ancestry than I do doesn't look black and never faced the same discrimination I did. I think how you look influences whether you face discrimination. I've never needed affirmative action based on objective standards like grades and performance, but I wonder if the biases without it would have stopped me from getting in the door to prove myself.


Yep, my neighbors have kids who are 1/4 black—one looks black and has super curly hair, while the other looks Asian and has straight hair.

Actually, I know another family like this too—one kid looks white and the other looks at least 1/2 black. You never know with genetics—kinda cool to see what you’ll get!
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I'm white and Asian and people (white, black, Asian and Hispanic) think I'm Hispanic.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm white and Asian and people (white, black, Asian and Hispanic) think I'm Hispanic.

Funny, my kids are white and hispanic, and one of them is sometimes mistaken for asian (don't know where his eyes came from).
Anonymous
We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.
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Friend is 1/4 and has strawberry blond hair, really fair skin. Fairer than me, 100% European on DNA test

Another friend has some portion NA, close enough that they have extended family in a tribe, had portions of their wedding in the tradition. She additionally has Asian heritage. She looks olive, but about just as light as me. Her natural hair color is lighter than mine too.
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Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.


Troll
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Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.


Troll


Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case
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