Did anyone's DC get accepted/rejected at a UK school this year?

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Anonymous wrote:Any BTDT advice? What kind of stats did your DC have? How was the process? Did your DC interview? If accepted, is your DC going? Is DC a UK or American citizen and do you think that played any part in your DC's acceptance/rejection?

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Yes, my DC applied this year through UCAS and was admitted to all five of the schools to which she applied (Cambridge, University College London, Durham, Univ of Edinburgh, and St. Andrews). We are US citizens with no ties to the UK. She will be attending Cambridge in the fall. In general, I don't think that there are any real disadvantages to being from the US, in fact many claim that it is easier to get in from the US. Oxbridge is a bit of a different issue (it can be harder for US students due to a variety of issues). If your DC is interested in applying to either Camb or Oxford (you can't apply to both), I'd be happy to explain the admissions process in further detail. If your child is not interested in Oxbridge, than the application process is rather easy, transparent and fast.

Please share the App process. Exclude Oxbridge

The British equivalent of the Common Application is called UCAS, and all UK schools use it. You are allowed to apply to up to five universities at a time. UCAS is fairly easy to fill out. You are required to submit personal information as well as a personal statement. The statement is different than the common app essay, however, because it is more academic and course-specific than a well-written anecdote. It should read a bit like a resume in paragraph form - what has your student done in school (and maybe outside of school if there is a summer program, research project, etc. that is especially related) that has prepared them to succeed in that course. This personal statement will go to each of the schools that DC applies to, so there is no need to highlight why specific attributes of a specific university appeal to them. Because you are only writing one personal statement, each course that you apply to should be more or less the same thing (though not every course is identical at every uni).

You also will need only one letter of recommendation from a teacher in your student's area of study. Your teacher or college counselor will have to create a UCAS account as well in order to submit this letter and other school information.

Non-Oxbridge universities tend to have rolling admissions, so you will hear back quickly. Our DC heard back from each of his non-Oxbridge schools before the New Year.

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If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ but of course you think the US is the CENTER of the universe and therefore all other countries are inferior and should spend every waking hour trying to work out how people should come here for jobs. Right.

NP. Just stop. She didn't say that. Calm your defensive reflexes.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ but of course you think the US is the CENTER of the universe and therefore all other countries are inferior and should spend every waking hour trying to work out how people should come here for jobs. Right.

NP. Just stop. She didn't say that. Calm your defensive reflexes.

I think the poster with the kid at Ed was deploring the lack of advice for US students seeking employment in the US while studying at Edinburgh university. Just that sentence should tell you everything you need to know. It is ridiculously entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

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Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

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NP. There a couple of billion people populating India and China. Filling up the spots will not be a problem.