Did anyone's DC get accepted/rejected at a UK school this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

Please provide name examples and links?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

Please provide name examples and links?

U of Oxford and others come make presentations several times a year at local private high schools.

Ask in the Private Schools forum if you want to learn more.

My bet is that will increase after Brexit. The opportunity is obvious on both sides of the Atlantic.

[Anonymous]

My local public school is getting a visit from a British University today. Others are coming later in the Fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My local public school is getting a visit from a British University today. Others are coming later in the Fall.

The Brits are coming

[Anonymous]

As far as I can tell, UK schools are definitely interested in US students applying to their schools.

I, personally, sat in on local interest meetings for UCL, KCL, Edi and Cambridge. The sessions provide detailed information on the university and how to apply as a US citizen.

So many kids applied to Cambridge from my DC's school, that the admissions rep came for an impromptu special meet and greet last spring.

Approximately 20 UK schools are on the common app, including St. Andrews and Durham.

In my opinion, one of the largest impediments to US students entering the UK system, isn't a lack of interest by UK schools; it's the US students' fear of being pigeonholed in an area of study that they can't switch out of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, UK schools are definitely interested in US students applying to their schools.

I, personally, sat in on local interest meetings for UCL, KCL, Edi and Cambridge. The sessions provide detailed information on the university and how to apply as a US citizen.

So many kids applied to Cambridge from my DC's school, that the admissions rep came for an impromptu special meet and greet last spring.

Approximately 20 UK schools are on the common app, including St. Andrews and Durham.

In my opinion, one of the largest impediments to US students entering the UK system, isn't a lack of interest by UK schools; it's the US students' fear of being pigeonholed in an area of study that they can't switch out of.

True, it is a different model. Not for everyone, but very appealling to more mature students who know that they want to study -- and therefore do so in a more focused and efficient manner.

PP, what about the possibility to work in the UK 1-2 years after graduation? Is there some clarity on that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, UK schools are definitely interested in US students applying to their schools.

I, personally, sat in on local interest meetings for UCL, KCL, Edi and Cambridge. The sessions provide detailed information on the university and how to apply as a US citizen.

So many kids applied to Cambridge from my DC's school, that the admissions rep came for an impromptu special meet and greet last spring.

Approximately 20 UK schools are on the common app, including St. Andrews and Durham.

In my opinion, one of the largest impediments to US students entering the UK system, isn't a lack of interest by UK schools; it's the US students' fear of being pigeonholed in an area of study that they can't switch out of.

True, it is a different model. Not for everyone, but very appealling to more mature students who know that they want to study -- and therefore do so in a more focused and efficient manner.

PP, what about the possibility to work in the UK 1-2 years after graduation? Is there some clarity on that?

Yes, as of 2020 entrance, graduates can stay for two years. Here's a BBC piece on the subject:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49655719

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, UK schools are definitely interested in US students applying to their schools.

I, personally, sat in on local interest meetings for UCL, KCL, Edi and Cambridge. The sessions provide detailed information on the university and how to apply as a US citizen.

So many kids applied to Cambridge from my DC's school, that the admissions rep came for an impromptu special meet and greet last spring.

Approximately 20 UK schools are on the common app, including St. Andrews and Durham.

In my opinion, one of the largest impediments to US students entering the UK system, isn't a lack of interest by UK schools; it's the US students' fear of being pigeonholed in an area of study that they can't switch out of.

True, it is a different model. Not for everyone, but very appealling to more mature students who know that they want to study -- and therefore do so in a more focused and efficient manner.

PP, what about the possibility to work in the UK 1-2 years after graduation? Is there some clarity on that?

Yes, as of 2020 entrance, graduates can stay for two years. Here's a BBC piece on the subject:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49655719

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

Please provide name examples and links?

U of Oxford and others come make presentations several times a year at local private high schools.

Ask in the Private Schools forum if you want to learn more.

My bet is that will increase after Brexit. The opportunity is obvious on both sides of the Atlantic.

As I suspected you're just a BS artist. I asked for name examples not so I could "learn more" but so you could back up your statements which clearly, you cannot do.

Also I don't believe you. Oxford never presents - it just doesn't need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My local public school is getting a visit from a British University today. Others are coming later in the Fall.

Which one?

[Anonymous]

The only one I know of firsthand is Exeter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[
Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

Please provide name examples and links?

U of Oxford and others come make presentations several times a year at local private high schools.

Ask in the Private Schools forum if you want to learn more.

My bet is that will increase after Brexit. The opportunity is obvious on both sides of the Atlantic.

As I suspected you're just a BS artist. I asked for name examples not so I could "learn more" but so you could back up your statements which clearly, you cannot do.

Also I don't believe you. Oxford never presents - it just doesn't need to.

NP. You're a piece of work, aren't you?

Here is some marketing material chock full of information on how to apply:

"An American student's guide to undergraduate study at Oxford"

https://www.ox.ac.uk/sites/files/oxford/Guide%20for%20US%20students%202017.pdf

Here is the list of fall visits to the US and Canada by Oxford reps:

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/international-students/events/us-canada

Now, apologize to the PP for being such an as*hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[
Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

Please provide name examples and links?

U of Oxford and others come make presentations several times a year at local private high schools.

Ask in the Private Schools forum if you want to learn more.

My bet is that will increase after Brexit. The opportunity is obvious on both sides of the Atlantic.

As I suspected you're just a BS artist. I asked for name examples not so I could "learn more" but so you could back up your statements which clearly, you cannot do.

Also I don't believe you. Oxford never presents - it just doesn't need to.

NP. You're a piece of work, aren't you?

Here is some marketing material chock full of information on how to apply:

"An American student's guide to undergraduate study at Oxford"

https://www.ox.ac.uk/sites/files/oxford/Guide%20for%20US%20students%202017.pdf

Here is the list of fall visits to the US and Canada by Oxford reps:

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/international-students/events/us-canada

Now, apologize to the PP for being such an as*hole.

Reposting because my attempt to trim the thread didn't work so well.

NP. You're a piece of work, aren't you?

Here is some marketing material chock full of information on how to apply:

"An American student's guide to undergraduate study at Oxford"

https://www.ox.ac.uk/sites/files/oxford/Guide%20for%20US%20students%202017.pdf

Here is the list of fall visits to the US and Canada by Oxford reps:

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/international-students/events/us-canada

Now, apologize to the PP for being such an as*hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If kid is American citizen but living in the UK and attending a UK high school what is admissions like? International or what?

If the kid is there already they should know the answer to that question.

Kid is 11 and Mom is just curious. On the flip side I’m curious about how admissions works to schools in the US for Americans living abroad. I don’t need any real answers for another 5 years or so.

Then wait a couple of years to research this. Many things are changing due to Brexit.

trade with Europe will change and automatic European access to UK universities. This will not have an impact on US citizens applying to UK universities.

You don't know that.

Universities there are redoing their fees and processes for international students.

I have a kid that is going to school in the UK. My best guess (educated but still a guess) is that the landscape for US citizens will become more favorable as the UK subsidy for EU students is likely to go away. UK schools will need to fill those slots and US parents are already expecting to pay an arm and a leg. Also the UK will allow international admits to stay two years post graduation as of 2020 intake. This is a change from the 4 months that they were allowing before.

I'm British and I know the establishment's general attitude towards US education - that it is grossly inferior to anywhere in the UK / Europe. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it does mean that only outstanding students will continue to be accepted at UK institutions. The academic requirements are never going to be lowered to allow more US students attend, and the fees are not going to be lowered either.

Snobbery or not, previous PP above is into something.

Who will fill many of those slots left open as EU sends fewer students?

Will UK universities lower their standards to get more British students, or market themselves overseas, including the US of course, to attract top students at full pay?

What you don't understand is there is not "full pay" or marketing. UK universities are not businesses like they are here in the US. They are not profit making. They are subsidized by the UK government.

Only in the mid-late 90s were students required to pay fees. Previously the government paid everyone's fees, regardless of family background. The difference was for living costs. If your family could afford to pay your board they did, if they couldn't you'd get a "grant" which was money from the gov't which you didn't have to repay. In the early 90s they started introducing loans to see how popular they were and when they were popular, they swapped from grants to loans - massively reducing the number of spots for poorer students.

You are approaching your theories about UK universities based entirely on how US universities are run and that's where you go very wrong.

And for anyone who is still looking at UK universities and wants to know which ones are worthwhile - here's a link to the Russell Group, the top 24 places in the country.

https://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/about/our-universities

Sure but you haven't addressed the main point.

How will they fill the open slots once fewer EU students attend?

You may be surprised to learn that a number of top UK universities DO market themselves in the US already.

Please provide name examples and links?

U of Oxford and others come make presentations several times a year at local private high schools.

Ask in the Private Schools forum if you want to learn more.

My bet is that will increase after Brexit. The opportunity is obvious on both sides of the Atlantic.

As I suspected you're just a BS artist. I asked for name examples not so I could "learn more" but so you could back up your statements which clearly, you cannot do.

Also I don't believe you. Oxford never presents - it just doesn't need to.

Wow.

This website brings together the best of the best in DC

Lovely poster -- you are clueless. Oxford presents in multiple schools right here. Which makes a lot of sense, as I only see a growing interest in foreign schools. Wise up.

[Anonymous]

How difficult would it be to get to Aberdeen via the U.S?