Congratulations to the 3 MCPS Seniors who are Intel/Regeneron finalists

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Your statement is not just not completely true, it’s demonstrably false. Asian American students excel outside of STEM as well. To take one very limited example, 6 of the 11 essays published in the last issue of the Concord Review were written by Asian American students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Oh, my, you think the US. Math Olympiad team can win the first place this year simple because all Asian-American team members study hard? By the way, if you haven't noticed, this year the entire team is made of Chinese and Indian Americans, all boys, extremely politically incorrect.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2018/july/us-wins-math-olympiad.html
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to see the true potential of kids if they all lived at boarding school. Not an elite school. Just ones away from parents. No forced test prep, no thousands on tutors, kids decide the courses they take and how often they study. They are personally held accountable.

I still think Asian kids would be strong, but what is happening right now. The kids working all hours of the night, prepping for weeks for standardized tests in ELEMENTARY school. It is just getting out of hand. Reading the college threads. The need for 4.5 GPA and almost perfect SAT just to get into state schools? It is crazy. It isn’t real. It isn’t fun. It isn’t what it should be to be a kid or a teen. Too much pressure and these magnet programs are like crack cocaine to some of these parents. And the kids are stressed, anxious, depressed, medicated, lack social skills, and have zero stree5 smarts or common sense. It is scary.


So, let's just get out in the open exactly what you are saying.

Non-Asian minorities - they're all stupid and underqualified, so let's look down on them. they don't deserve anything.

Asian - they're all over worked and stressed out because their parents are terrible, they don't deserve anything because they're not really happy.

My white child - is just perfect and smart and I parent them perfectly. even thought they don't do as well or work as hard, because they must be overworked and stressed by those horrible Asian parents (while at the same time I howl for a strict meritocracy when it comes to URMs), my white children deserve to have all the spots in pick one: elementary magnet/middle school magnet/high school magnet/college of my choice.



That pp must felt really good. The self righteousness is mind boggling.


Not as self righteous as all the parents on these boards who simultaneously complain that URMs get spots without earning them and that Asian students are just mindless robots overworked by their parents. They get to wallow in their own smug superiority that they know how to parent and they’re kids are unjustly denied their rewards.
Anonymous
this is so absurd! So being good at STEM requires no gifts? just study and study!

Will you be a great artist without a lot of practice? come on, even Da Vinci has to draw hundreds (if not thousands) of eggs to be good at painting eggs!

Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.
Anonymous
It's so sad that we can't congratulate these obviously smart students without devolving into "Asian American students are pushed by their parents" discussion. Years (and I mean several years) ago when the winners were mostly white students, were there discussions about how those white kids must be pushed by their parents?
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Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Oh, my, you think the US. Math Olympiad team can win the first place this year simple because all Asian-American team members study hard? By the way, if you haven't noticed, this year the entire team is made of Chinese and Indian Americans, all boys, extremely politically incorrect.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2018/july/us-wins-math-olympiad.html


Actually. Yeah, I do. Mathematicians agree. Math competitions are something you work hard at. It’s all about study, study, study.
Anonymous
would you please give us an example of any major competition that requires no hard work?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Oh, my, you think the US. Math Olympiad team can win the first place this year simple because all Asian-American team members study hard? By the way, if you haven't noticed, this year the entire team is made of Chinese and Indian Americans, all boys, extremely politically incorrect.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2018/july/us-wins-math-olympiad.html


Actually. Yeah, I do. Mathematicians agree. Math competitions are something you work hard at. It’s all about study, study, study.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Oh, my, you think the US. Math Olympiad team can win the first place this year simple because all Asian-American team members study hard? By the way, if you haven't noticed, this year the entire team is made of Chinese and Indian Americans, all boys, extremely politically incorrect.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2018/july/us-wins-math-olympiad.html


Actually. Yeah, I do. Mathematicians agree. Math competitions are something you work hard at. It’s all about study, study, study.


Sorry, my husband is a mathematician. I have a PhD in physics. A handful of our college classmates won gold medals from math olympiad or physics olympiad, some of whom are math or physics professors now. We even have a friend nominated for Fields Medal. None of us believe that math only requires study, study and study. You need talent to master it.
Anonymous
^^^ This is the dumbest argument. OF COURSE it takes both talent and hard work to be successful at the highest levels of math competitions, or the highest levels of literally anything else.

Soccer, piano, math competitions. If you are going to reach the highest levels, you need both innate ability and an incredible work ethic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^^ This is the dumbest argument. OF COURSE it takes both talent and hard work to be successful at the highest levels of math competitions, or the highest levels of literally anything else.

Soccer, piano, math competitions. If you are going to reach the highest levels, you need both innate ability and an incredible work ethic.


I agree. At the upper levels—the highest levels. But high school math comps are not the highest levels of math.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:would you please give us an example of any major competition that requires no hard work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Oh, my, you think the US. Math Olympiad team can win the first place this year simple because all Asian-American team members study hard? By the way, if you haven't noticed, this year the entire team is made of Chinese and Indian Americans, all boys, extremely politically incorrect.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2018/july/us-wins-math-olympiad.html


Actually. Yeah, I do. Mathematicians agree. Math competitions are something you work hard at. It’s all about study, study, study.


I didn’t bring up math Olympiad. My point was with math, in grades k-12, it’s easy to study ahead in math. I think it’s harder in ELA.
Anonymous
Wow, that Team USA victory was not well-publicized at all! Way to go gentlemen!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


ignorance is a blessing, if that makes you feel better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^ This is the dumbest argument. OF COURSE it takes both talent and hard work to be successful at the highest levels of math competitions, or the highest levels of literally anything else.

Soccer, piano, math competitions. If you are going to reach the highest levels, you need both innate ability and an incredible work ethic.


I agree. At the upper levels—the highest levels. But high school math comps are not the highest levels of math.


Last time I checked, Asian students excel in both math and english, and science , in high schools, and middle schools and Elem schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:would you please give us an example of any major competition that requires no hard work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How come Asian Americans excel only in STEM?

I’m sure this isn’t completely true, but it certainly seems like it. Is it because math is easier to excel in by simply working ahead? I understand that Asian culture values hard work over innate gifts. With math you don’t need to be gifted. You just have to study, study, study. So maybe math is more straightforward than language arts in that regard. Math? You just work ahead—either in weekend school, kumon, Kahn, or with mom or dad.


Oh, my, you think the US. Math Olympiad team can win the first place this year simple because all Asian-American team members study hard? By the way, if you haven't noticed, this year the entire team is made of Chinese and Indian Americans, all boys, extremely politically incorrect.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2018/july/us-wins-math-olympiad.html


Actually. Yeah, I do. Mathematicians agree. Math competitions are something you work hard at. It’s all about study, study, study.


It it's so easy, which many non-Asian students avoid like the plague. Are you saying they are too lazy?

I didn’t bring up math Olympiad. My point was with math, in grades k-12, it’s easy to study ahead in math. I think it’s harder in ELA.
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