Super Fudge book outs Santa as fake
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Anonymous
Someone posted this on the other thread, but IME it is accurate: Almost all kindergartners and first graders still believe in Santa. Most 2nd graders believe. Some 3rd graders are skeptical. Most 4th graders doubt Santa, but will hedge their bets just in case. |
Anonymous
Good thing Judy Blume books aren't written for 5 year olds. Or even 7 year olds, really. |
Anonymous
| If your ES kid does not know that Santa is not real, please get them evaluated and get an IEP in place for them. They have larger cognitive issues. If they are indulging in make-believe and fantasy then that is very different than not knowing facts. |
Anonymous
Who is reading Judy Blume at age 4???? The story character was 4- not the kid reading the book!!! It's for like 4th graders! |
Anonymous
See but why would you do that? A 6-7 year old is past the stage of magical thinking and obviously won't really believe in that stuff unless their parents make a conscious effort to trick them/ convince them they are real despite the child's natural instinct to figure out in their own that they're not real. Why not just let it happen naturally? Santa is for 3, 4, 5 year olds. Maybe in some cases 6 and 7 year olds that are a little less savvy. But beyond that you're just stunting them and lying to them for your own selfish reasons! And finding out will be traumatic because it wasn't a natural progression, it was a bold faced lie by their parent. It's not traumatic to find out naturally around age 5 or 6, just let it happen already. You do not he's not ACTUALLY real, right? |
Anonymous
If you don't read inappropriate books to your 6 year old it won't be an issue. Super Fudge is not written for first graders. |
Anonymous
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We're Jewish and DS is 7 and this has been the first holiday season where the Santa thing has proven to be a bit difficult. He is definitely a bit jealous of kids who celebrate Christmas, and he questioned why we do angel tree gifts when Santa already brings presents to everyone who celebrates Christmas. He understands that we're Jewish which is why we don't celebrate Christmas, Honestly, the only reason I don't tell him the truth about Santa is because I don't want him to ruin it for other kids, even accidentally. But how long do I need to keep up this charade? It seems a bit odd to me that I have to have DS believe a lie about something in which we don't even believe or participate. But I do because I don't want DS to be known as the kid who ruined Christmas. You should definitely tell him! No need to keep up the charade for the sake of others. As a Jewish kid, when I was 5, I came home upset that all the other kids were getting gifts from this Santa guy, and I wasn't. My parents explained right away that "Santa" was their parents. They also told me that I should keep this to myself because it was fun for those kids, so I shouldn't ruin. I felt special having inside knowledge that the other kids didn't have instead of confused that I was somehow being passed over for gifts by some mythical character. |
Anonymous
EIGHT YEARS OLD? There was a post on here a few days ago about an 8.5 year old getting their period and people were saying it was within the range of normal for an overweight child (true). Now eight year olds are far too young to figure out Santa? But getting their period is okay? When will they stop believing- when they're getting married? |
Anonymous
Maybe times have changed, I didn't believe in Santa in first grade and I remember specifically kids teasing another classmate for still believing. We were all, most likely, 7 years old. I pretended to believe because it was fun to do, but I knew Santa was clearly just my mom and dad. So did everyone else for the most part. |
Anonymous
Yes, actually, there are many differences between my childhood and my kids' childhood. Do you have kids? How old are they? |
Anonymous
They are 3 and 9 months. Yes, there are many differences in many things. Cognitive development rates of children have remained somewhat static, though. Including ability to think critically about things like Santa starting around the age that magical thinking goes away.... early elementary school. |
Anonymous
| I think it's so backwards that so many parents/schools/society in general now force reading and writing on kids well before it is age appropriate for them to be doing sit down academic work (age 4- when it's more appropriate to start that around age 6 or even 7 according to most child development experts, and let children learn almost entirely by play before that)... yet we've also started infantilizing them in other ways, like with pretending it's normal for a 9 year old neurotypical kid to believe in Santa Claus. Is it to make up for the fact that we're forcing them to grow up earlier in other ways? Or are the children pushing back on being forced to grow up earlier in other ways by now lagging behind in critical thinking/ problem solving skills that would usually allow them to naturally outgrow Santa much earlier? I've heard that kids are showing delays in things like sensory skills, etc because of forced early academic work taking up brain space that should be spent playing outdoors and learning to play with friends. It is an interesting thought. |
Anonymous
| My children are atheists and were brought up believing in Santa. We do not let them tell their Christian friends that the whole Jesus thing is bunk. Everyone does things differently but it is obnoxious to go out of your way to make someone else feel bad. |
Anonymous
| My DS knew Santa doesn't exist long before he told me he knew Santa doesn't exist. He told me that he didn't want to hurt my feelings because I was so "gung ho Santa!" that he thought that I didn't know that Santa doesn't exist. |
Anonymous
The PSA specifically called out the author for being Jewish. It was an obvious attack. |