DA dropping the U12 age group?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, I am still confused. Does this mean that Arlington won't have U-12 DA academy next year? They will all now stay on the Red team vs being extracted for DA?

Yes, U12 DA is being eliminated. '08 players will tryout for DA at U14.

All DA clubs will still teach DA principals at all levels, but will not be DA.

Has Arlington announced this yet to the 2008 year players yet (which by the way was the same age group that bore the brunt of the age group changes as well a few years ago)?

Tough luck for that age group overall with US Soccer it seems....

Every age group thought that they particularly suffered from the age change. Get over it already

You are obnoxious. No one 'suffered.' Point being that 2008 was the only age group that would not have been in travel at all-- but were vaulted in unlike other age groups who were already in or planning to be in due to age eligibility (2007).

Didn't say other groups were not impacted-- all were obviously impacted in some way (some in a good way, some in a bad way).

But 2008 was the only group that wouldn't have needed to be in travel at all (but in some type of development program)--that was my point.

They still didn't need to be in travel and it could be argued benefited by getting in a bit sooner than otherwise expected. The late 07's who would have been the older 08's got pushed up into an age group that already had a year of travel experience.

So yes, get over it. Every age group 08 and older were impacted in some way. Some kids benefited and others did not but compared to other age groups the 08's were not as adversely affected as most.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

Coaching to Develop vs Coaching to Win in the younger years.

Great recent article:

http://teachlikeachampion.com/blog/coaching-and-practice/coaching-develop-players-vs-coaching-win-examples/

The point of creating 'one dimensional players' is valid. Many of these places rely on 'young superstars' and their physicality/dominance. They capitalize on it and the player is never developed properly and fails later on at age 17/18. Their backs also rarely touch the ball, but serve only to distribute it with a long kick. Play this way in the younger years seriously limits the number of touches per player. You want every kid on the field touching the ball in the prime development years. And, whether your a fan of possession style or not---it should be learned early in development because it is the method that affords kids the most touches on the ball in practice and in games. Non-possession soccer allocates touches to only a few players. "you watch a teammate launch a 30 yard blind pass or try to dribble three players in the midfield, you are learning less when you don’t have the ball because you are not thinking that you are about to get it. Thinking you will and hoping you might are very different. Finally 4) you want players to know and understand the system that is played at elite levels so they can aspire to go as far as they can go. Possession soccer is the default. That’s why the US Soccer Federation advocates it." Now, as said, the majority of Clubs in the US do not follow USSF's advice or implement it correctly---even many of the 'DA clubs'.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

[Anonymous]

That is incorrect. Try to keep your envy in your pocket

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That is incorrect. Try to keep your envy in your pocket

Are you from Arlington or FCV?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

That's because they get so much practice punting.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

That's because they get so much practice punting.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

Ha!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

That's because they get so much practice punting.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

Ha!

good

Again, the bolded comment is false. But thanks for playing. Loudoun has produced several very good players other than keepers as well.

[Anonymous]

Here is one of the recent keepers from Loudoun. I guess he punted his way onto the UVA team.

https://virginiasports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6009

[Anonymous]

That guy was also a National Champion on the Loudoun DA team. The haters are just parents of kids who could never make the team or always lost to them. Haters gonna hate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

I guess Loudoun 03 pre-DA team does not have one of those "top 10 in the nation" type keepers that Loudoun produces, since Louodoun lost 0-8 to a team from Pennsylvania in EDP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

I guess Loudoun 03 pre-DA team does not have one of those "top 10 in the nation" type keepers that Loudoun produces, since Louodoun lost 0-8 to a team from Pennsylvania in EDP.

Right, because the keeper is solely responsible for all goals scored in a match. Good lord.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is about. There are much better Soccer forums in other parts of the US. Read those. U12 and U13 boys and girls on USSF's firing line.

Yawn. Who honestly cares about the youngest age group anyway. If you want your kid to be part of the DA environment, it can only help to join these clubs early, to be exposed to their methods and culture and to prove yourself as a player. So if the age groups are still there in DA, great. If not, only a benefit in being there early. There’s only one major DA club that I know of that would rather take a player they don’t know over an equivalent in house player, and I’d argue that’s not a net gain for said club as the jilted player leaves in almost all cases. Most clubs at this level would rather keep their in house player, where the investment has already been made.

This whole debate is really a tempest in a teapot over rumors with no factual basis from anything other than unreliable discussion boards.

Loudoun and Arlington do not play DA-style in their non-DA teams..and, frankly, it’s questionable on many of their DA teams. There are other Clubs in the area without DA that do a much better job. Frankly, I know many that pulled their kids out of these Clubs at the younger ages because they didn’t want them playing kickball and punting keepers.

+1 DA is only an iron-on, culture matters

Completely false. Loudoun has produced top D1 keepers. Top 10 in the nation type keepers.

I guess Loudoun 03 pre-DA team does not have one of those "top 10 in the nation" type keepers that Loudoun produces, since Louodoun lost 0-8 to a team from Pennsylvania in EDP.

Right, because the keeper is solely responsible for all goals scored in a match. Good lord.

I am not saying that Loudoun goalkeeper is solely responsible for their blow out loss. I am just tired of shameless self-promotion by certain clubs. The reality is that many of these "elite" teams are rather mediocre, including goalkeepers.

[Anonymous]

If you are a pointing to a club arguing they are good at developing players because of their track record developing GKs, you don't get it.