Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or that the public pressure/GOP-Dem pressure behind closed doors is more than it seems.

Or that they don't give a shit and know that no matter what comes out in any hearing, Kavanaugh will be confirmed.


I don't think that's right. If that was the case they would have pushed through the vote. This took them by surprise. I think some combination of Sasse, Corker, Flake, Murkowski and Collins threatened defection without a hearing and all red state Democrats said no yes without a hearing.

They're counting on her not being credible because this is really stupid if they have any intention of confirming K. A public testimony of this assault will only make it more difficult to confirm him. Watching a woman publicly verbally describe an assault will be worse than reading it.

I think they picked Monday because they think that's enough time to dig up dirt but honestly the Republicans are stupid. If they wanted to seal this up before midterms they should have either forced a vote this week or cut K loose and go for another nominee.


Republicans CAN’T cut K loose. Trump nominated him. Only Trump can pull the nomination. And TRump always, always, always, always fights back no matter what. They have to vote him down (pissed Trump base) or vote him forward (pissed women). It is lose-lose. Mitch McTurtle didn’t want K to begin with. Right now, he would do anything in his power to make him go away.

I think that there are quite a few R Senators who hope more women come forward and this nomination becomes untenable. Because they are cowards and don’t want to have to vote.


PP, you do not even have the most basic idea how government works. No one can make Trump withdraw Kavanaugh, but no one can make the Senate give him a vote.

McConnell wants, more than anything, to keep the Senate in Republican hands. If he senses that confirming Kavanaugh in the face of these allegations will turn off voters, he will simply not schedule a vote.

Without a vote, Kavanaugh would withdraw himself in order to regain some semblance of normal life.


Kavanaugh will never again have any semblance of a normal life; nor will his family. This allegation - whether true or false - has instantly turned him into a pariah.
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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.


NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?


DP. They're not. Not to them and frankly - without more evidence - not to Kavanaugh.


If the allegation is false, then I think the judge can say he’s been traumatized.
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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.


What is your basis for believing this?
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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.


NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?


What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.


Um, how is it "gross" to bring your children to an historic hearing involving one of their parents? John Roberts brought his, and I'm sure others with children did as well. Get over yourself.


Because they all knew this allegation was out there and used the pre-teen girls as props and shields.


You're completely assuming they knew about the allegation. Nothing I've read has suggested that Kavanaugh was privy to this allegation; certainly, none of the senators he spoke with at length EVER brought it up or asked for clarification. How would he have known?
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Anonymous wrote:They picked Monday because they don’t want to leave time for any more info to come out, or for more accusers to come forward. They want to make it a simple he-said-she-said situation, and then just jam the nomination through.

We should have higher standards for a Supreme Court Justice. Can’t they find someone who *hasn’t* tried to rape a fifteen year old girl?


A week is an eternity in Trump time.

I’m a former (female) federal law clerk, and my grapevine says there are female law clerks out there. Wow, would it be tough to come forward though. Your career would be over.


You don’t think so, law is a pretty liberal profession.


This last comment is too funny. No way is the law a “pretty liberal profession.” No way.



Lawyers might be risk averse types, but most are quite liberal.


You need to broaden your horizons beyond fed lawyers in the DMV. [/quo

I’ve practiced o the coasts and in between. There are very few conservative lawyers. It’s a generally liberal profession. Trust me and move on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.


Trust me, more will emerge. The dems are currently scrubbing those womens' social media presence and deciding on the fee.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or that the public pressure/GOP-Dem pressure behind closed doors is more than it seems.

Or that they don't give a shit and know that no matter what comes out in any hearing, Kavanaugh will be confirmed.


I don't think that's right. If that was the case they would have pushed through the vote. This took them by surprise. I think some combination of Sasse, Corker, Flake, Murkowski and Collins threatened defection without a hearing and all red state Democrats said no yes without a hearing.

They're counting on her not being credible because this is really stupid if they have any intention of confirming K. A public testimony of this assault will only make it more difficult to confirm him. Watching a woman publicly verbally describe an assault will be worse than reading it.

I think they picked Monday because they think that's enough time to dig up dirt but honestly the Republicans are stupid. If they wanted to seal this up before midterms they should have either forced a vote this week or cut K loose and go for another nominee.


Republicans CAN’T cut K loose. Trump nominated him. Only Trump can pull the nomination. And TRump always, always, always, always fights back no matter what. They have to vote him down (pissed Trump base) or vote him forward (pissed women). It is lose-lose. Mitch McTurtle didn’t want K to begin with. Right now, he would do anything in his power to make him go away.

I think that there are quite a few R Senators who hope more women come forward and this nomination becomes untenable. Because they are cowards and don’t want to have to vote.


PP, you do not even have the most basic idea how government works. No one can make Trump withdraw Kavanaugh, but no one can make the Senate give him a vote.

McConnell wants, more than anything, to keep the Senate in Republican hands. If he senses that confirming Kavanaugh in the face of these allegations will turn off voters, he will simply not schedule a vote.

Without a vote, Kavanaugh would withdraw himself in order to regain some semblance of normal life.


Kavanaugh will never again have any semblance of a normal life; nor will his family. This allegation - whether true or false - has instantly turned him into a pariah.

Many high profile types recently ousted by MeToo allegations are slowly creeping back into the spotlight. Even if Kavanaugh doesn’t get confirmed, he will likely retain his current position, feel a little local heat, then be back to normal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.

There’s already chatter about additional people.


SurPRISE.

Republicans: There seem to be no additional people.

Dems: [rustle rustle rustle] WE FOUND SOME
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.


Trust me, more will emerge. The dems are currently scrubbing those womens' social media presence and deciding on the fee.

I believe more will emerge, but it won’t be for the reasons you think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.

There’s already chatter about additional people.


SurPRISE.

Republicans: There seem to be no additional people.

Dems: [rustle rustle rustle] WE FOUND SOME

Time and time again, when one initial accuser comes forward, others tend to find strength in numbers and the courage to tell their experiences too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) misogyny is alive and well in this country and B) victims of sexual assault are incredibly brave to speak out against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this woman and attempted to discredit her is really gross.


I could say exactly the same thing about those of you jumping on the bandwagon to condemn a man who has not been charged with any crime, nor found guilty of any assault. In your eyes, he was guilty the minute you read Ford's allegation. If I were ever accused of a crime, I'd be scared to death to have you liberals on my jury. Guilty until proven innocent, especially if one is a conservative male. That's the liberal way!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.


NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?


What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.


And his girls basketball team. If that were my daughter, I would be flipping my lid right now.


Clearly the judge is an unfit father and social services needs to step in
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) misogyny is alive and well in this country and B) victims of sexual assault are incredibly brave to speak out against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this woman and attempted to discredit her is really gross.

+1
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Anonymous wrote:She didn't even tell his name to the therapist.

This story just does not ring true.


Would you believe it if there were pics? No, I didn't think so. Because you think women are dirt.

Also why you're so eager to confirm a man hell-bent on repealing women's reproductive rights.


You saw the Franken photos and still don't believe it.
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