Is Stanford the "gold standard?"

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Can't speak for that PP but my DD didn't give it a glance because of: 1) Silicon Valley douche bro culture; and 2) suburban location. The weather is undeniably nice, though. She's headed to Columbia and loves everything about NYC.

This statement really says more about you than the students at Stanford, you know.

Really touched a nerve there. Why so sensitive?

Ignorant and unfair comment and characterization, is all. Plus the lack of the PPs self-awareness. And yes, I am a sensitive person, and proud of it.

Do you have a child who goes there or are you an alum?

Neither.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:35% of Stanford students are from California.

It attracts many Californians who are not interested in leaving the state for university (and there are many of them). The Silicon Valley successes have given it worldwide publicity, but whether it is at the level of the PR trumpets is another matter.

You are wrong if you think Stanford is different than basically any other university in that regard. Virtually all universities draw significantly from the region they are located in.

Take Harvard. The equivalent area to CA would be, I’d say, New England and the mid-Atlantic, which comprise 37.9% of the class of 2021. (https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics)

A lot of kids look to the schools relatively close to where they live, even among top schools.

Duh. Where are the best private boarding schools located?????

Wrong. That’s not what’s going on. Every school draws significantly from the kids who live in the region near that school. Find me a school that doesn’t and isn’t highly specialized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stanford is the most selective college in the world, it is located in the heart of Silicon Valley in an area of great natural beauty and wonderful weather.

Many would agree with me that Stanford is the gold standard for undergraduate, law or MBA programs. I know that some disagree, but why? If you think some other school is better (in general, not for a niche program) what do you think that school offers that makes it better overall than Stanford?

PS – I am neither a Stanford Grad nor a Stanford Parent.

It has the lowest acceptance rates and smaller programs than most of its peers. Not dartmouth of course. but different animals.

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Anonymous wrote:35% of Stanford students are from California.

It attracts many Californians who are not interested in leaving the state for university (and there are many of them). The Silicon Valley successes have given it worldwide publicity, but whether it is at the level of the PR trumpets is another matter.

You are wrong if you think Stanford is different than basically any other university in that regard. Virtually all universities draw significantly from the region they are located in.

Take Harvard. The equivalent area to CA would be, I’d say, New England and the mid-Atlantic, which comprise 37.9% of the class of 2021. (https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics)

A lot of kids look to the schools relatively close to where they live, even among top schools.

Duh. Where are the best private boarding schools located?????

Wrong. That’s not what’s going on. Every school draws significantly from the kids who live in the region near that school. Find me a school that doesn’t and isn’t highly specialized.

Not in my harvard class. I was an odd ball coming from public and California. The best prep schools students are there (obviously). Most prep schools are in new england or mid-atlantic. Remember "Love Story". Kid from prep school and wealthy background.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:35% of Stanford students are from California.

It attracts many Californians who are not interested in leaving the state for university (and there are many of them). The Silicon Valley successes have given it worldwide publicity, but whether it is at the level of the PR trumpets is another matter.

You are wrong if you think Stanford is different than basically any other university in that regard. Virtually all universities draw significantly from the region they are located in.

Take Harvard. The equivalent area to CA would be, I’d say, New England and the mid-Atlantic, which comprise 37.9% of the class of 2021. (https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics)

A lot of kids look to the schools relatively close to where they live, even among top schools.

Duh. Where are the best private boarding schools located?????

Wrong. That’s not what’s going on. Every school draws significantly from the kids who live in the region near that school. Find me a school that doesn’t and isn’t highly specialized.

Not in my harvard class. I was an odd ball coming from public and California. The best prep schools students are there (obviously). Most prep schools are in new england or mid-atlantic. Remember "Love Story". Kid from prep school and wealthy background.

1. I’m familiar with prep schools; I went to a NE boarding school.

2. You made my point; Harvard draws significantly from the region in which it is located.

[Anonymous]

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Can't speak for that PP but my DD didn't give it a glance because of: 1) Silicon Valley douche bro culture; and 2) suburban location. The weather is undeniably nice, though. She's headed to Columbia and loves everything about NYC.

This statement really says more about you than the students at Stanford, you know.

Really touched a nerve there. Why so sensitive?

Ignorant and unfair comment and characterization, is all. Plus the lack of the PPs self-awareness. And yes, I am a sensitive person, and proud of it.

Do you have a child who goes there or are you an alum?

Neither.

NP. Stanford alum here. The Silicon Valley douche bro culture is real. While I will support my daughter if she's admitted and wants to go there, I'd rather she go to another strong school.

I disagree with PPs upthread who mentioned a strong on-campus frat culture and the Hoover Institute as negatives - I don't think most students spare a thought for the Hoover Institute in their daily lives. Also, the whole grim Brock Turner incident aside, fraternities and sororities are not the social center of student life. Surprisingly, the Greek system is more of a big deal at Cal.

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Can't speak for that PP but my DD didn't give it a glance because of: 1) Silicon Valley douche bro culture; and 2) suburban location. The weather is undeniably nice, though. She's headed to Columbia and loves everything about NYC.

This statement really says more about you than the students at Stanford, you know.

Really touched a nerve there. Why so sensitive?

Ignorant and unfair comment and characterization, is all. Plus the lack of the PPs self-awareness. And yes, I am a sensitive person, and proud of it.

Do you have a child who goes there or are you an alum?

Neither.

NP. Stanford alum here. The Silicon Valley douche bro culture is real. While I will support my daughter if she's admitted and wants to go there, I'd rather she go to another strong school.

I disagree with PPs upthread who mentioned a strong on-campus frat culture and the Hoover Institute as negatives - I don't think most students spare a thought for the Hoover Institute in their daily lives. Also, the whole grim Brock Turner incident aside, fraternities and sororities are not the social center of student life. Surprisingly, the Greek system is more of a big deal at Cal.

This has been my experience as well. Lots of aspies with rich parents in Silicon Valley, many legacies.

[Anonymous]

According to the Stanford Daily, Jeff Raikes, alumni Chair of the Stanford University Board of Trustees in a presentation to the Board, stated that alums of the past five to 10 years have rated their Stanford experience lower than those of earlier years and suggested that the Board needs to improve its relationship with the student body. So no, Stanford is definitely not the gold standard in undergraduate education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the Stanford Daily, Jeff Raikes, alumni Chair of the Stanford University Board of Trustees in a presentation to the Board, stated that alums of the past five to 10 years have rated their Stanford experience lower than those of earlier years and suggested that the Board needs to improve its relationship with the student body. So no, Stanford is definitely not the gold standard in undergraduate education.

Thank you for this information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to the Stanford Daily, Jeff Raikes, alumni Chair of the Stanford University Board of Trustees in a presentation to the Board, stated that alums of the past five to 10 years have rated their Stanford experience lower than those of earlier years and suggested that the Board needs to improve its relationship with the student body. So no, Stanford is definitely not the gold standard in undergraduate education.

Thank you for this information.

This was the experience of a family member who just graduated. The parents (double legacies) would never redo it. Their white daughter was made to feel so inferior due to SJWarriors on campus that she left with no self-pride. She was made to feel inferior due to her white privilege.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to the Stanford Daily, Jeff Raikes, alumni Chair of the Stanford University Board of Trustees in a presentation to the Board, stated that alums of the past five to 10 years have rated their Stanford experience lower than those of earlier years and suggested that the Board needs to improve its relationship with the student body. So no, Stanford is definitely not the gold standard in undergraduate education.

Thank you for this information.

This was the experience of a family member who just graduated. The parents (double legacies) would never redo it. Their white daughter was made to feel so inferior due to SJWarriors on campus that she left with no self-pride. She was made to feel inferior due to her white privilege.

You can look at this a couple of ways. As for the "Gold Standard" for prestige, I'd still name Harvard first overall in the U.S. and MIT is there for technical fields. Stanford is very close. As for the "Gold Standard" for actual educational experience, it might not be any one of these.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to the Stanford Daily, Jeff Raikes, alumni Chair of the Stanford University Board of Trustees in a presentation to the Board, stated that alums of the past five to 10 years have rated their Stanford experience lower than those of earlier years and suggested that the Board needs to improve its relationship with the student body. So no, Stanford is definitely not the gold standard in undergraduate education.

Thank you for this information.

This was the experience of a family member who just graduated. The parents (double legacies) would never redo it. Their white daughter was made to feel so inferior due to SJWarriors on campus that she left with no self-pride. She was made to feel inferior due to her white privilege.

If your little snowflake can't think for herself it is not Stanford's fault.

[Anonymous]

No one would say Stanford is the gold standard for law. Some might say it’s equal best or the best if you’re looking to stay in Cali, but gold standard/better than Yale Law? No one in the legal profession thinks that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one would say Stanford is the gold standard for law. Some might say it’s equal best or the best if you’re looking to stay in Cali, but gold standard/better than Yale Law? No one in the legal profession thinks that.

And no one in the tech industry would ever want to go to an Ivy or seriously recruit from one.

I agree that it depends on the field.

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Anonymous wrote:No one would say Stanford is the gold standard for law. Some might say it’s equal best or the best if you’re looking to stay in Cali, but gold standard/better than Yale Law? No one in the legal profession thinks that.

Where else but DCUM can you find someone who purports to speak for the entire legal profession?

In my experience statements like "No one in the legal profession . . ." are red flags for lack of self esteem.