Time for a citywide traditional elementary school in each ward

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

I hope you stick with it but the stats say you won't

Also big difference between truly title 1 and a gentrifying title 1. When you start to become an only or close to it (not just race I'm talking more SES) it gets really tough to stay.

Oh good, more qualifiers.

It's just not that simple or clear racially or SES. That's also not my focus. Our kids are racially mixed. And I'm not entirely clear on the SES of many classmates families although I know the school overall has relatively high poverty.

What I do see is that there's a cohort of kids performing above grade level along with our kids. That's pretty much all I care about.

The behavior issues manifest in the later elementary grades. I really do hope it works out.

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Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

Yup - that's the way to allows white families to 'keep' mostly with other white families . . . . I don't know if people don't realize the implications of what they're saying or if we should just go ahead and build the walls so there can be white enclaves for those who want them and be really clear on who's in for thinking about society at large or who's in for thinking only about their white selves.

Ugh get a clue. Black UMC and up and Hispanic UMC and up do the same things. The facts again are you have 40-45% at risk and 70-80% FARMS in the district schools. The math doesn't add up for anyone who wants a quality education for their kids. Which is why people bail unless they are in a richer area get a good charter number or go private. IRREGARDLESS OF RACE

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

I hope you stick with it but the stats say you won't

Also big difference between truly title 1 and a gentrifying title 1. When you start to become an only or close to it (not just race I'm talking more SES) it gets really tough to stay.

Oh good, more qualifiers.

It's just not that simple or clear racially or SES. That's also not my focus. Our kids are racially mixed. And I'm not entirely clear on the SES of many classmates families although I know the school overall has relatively high poverty.

What I do see is that there's a cohort of kids performing above grade level along with our kids. That's pretty much all I care about.

The behavior issues manifest in the later elementary grades. I really do hope it works out.

Thanks, I think. We've had our share of behavior issues, and the school handles then reasonably. We've also had our share of behavior issues in high SES settings. Not always handled so well.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

+1. Another parent IB for Deal, and I doubt that they're really a Deal parent--have not heard anyone talk like this about Hardy. My oldest is still pretty young, but I like the idea of a smaller school like Hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

+1. Another parent IB for Deal, and I doubt that they're really a Deal parent--have not heard anyone talk like this about Hardy. My oldest is still pretty young, but I like the idea of a smaller school like Hardy.

You should offer to trade on Craigslist your Deal IB spot for Hardy. You will probably get 100 offers.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

+1. Another parent IB for Deal, and I doubt that they're really a Deal parent--have not heard anyone talk like this about Hardy. My oldest is still pretty young, but I like the idea of a smaller school like Hardy.

You should offer to trade on Craigslist your Deal IB spot for Hardy. You will probably get 100 offers.

I’ll trade you for a SH spot. It’s also small.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

+1. Another parent IB for Deal, and I doubt that they're really a Deal parent--have not heard anyone talk like this about Hardy. My oldest is still pretty young, but I like the idea of a smaller school like Hardy.

You should offer to trade on Craigslist your Deal IB spot for Hardy. You will probably get 100 offers.

And another dumb post from Ms. Anti-Hardy.

There are lots of in-bound families that are very happy with Hardy and aside from your persistent insinuations on DCUM I'm not even aware of any unhappy parents who, unlike you, have the courage to actually send their kids to Hardy and have actual first hand experience with the school.

And lots of out-of-boundary families that would be thrilled to get into Hardy.

I'm a Deal parent with a kid who is somewhat lost in the shuffle at a massive school like Deal - if I weren't 3 blocks from Deal I'd happily have my kid go to Hardy. The shorter lines to get thru security every morning would make up for the longer commute.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

+1. Another parent IB for Deal, and I doubt that they're really a Deal parent--have not heard anyone talk like this about Hardy. My oldest is still pretty young, but I like the idea of a smaller school like Hardy.

You should offer to trade on Craigslist your Deal IB spot for Hardy. You will probably get 100 offers.

And another dumb post from Ms. Anti-Hardy.

There are lots of in-bound families that are very happy with Hardy and aside from your persistent insinuations on DCUM I'm not even aware of any unhappy parents who, unlike you, have the courage to actually send their kids to Hardy and have actual first hand experience with the school.

And lots of out-of-boundary families that would be thrilled to get into Hardy.

I'm a Deal parent with a kid who is somewhat lost in the shuffle at a massive school like Deal - if I weren't 3 blocks from Deal I'd happily have my kid go to Hardy. The shorter lines to get thru security every morning would make up for the longer commute.

This is true no doubt, if your IB middle school sucks. Compared to all the rest, Hardy looks pretty good. Compared to Deal, not so good.

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

The Deal families are at least thankful that their kids don't have to go to Hardy. They still have school uniforms there. Maybe midnight basketball, too.

God I hope you are not really a Deal parent - the Deal parents I know are far brighter and more reasonable than you. I suspect you are really an insecure future Hardy parent who comes onto every DCUM thread she spots to bash Hardy even though you don't know the first thing about it.

And I love the Midnight Basketball dog whistle. Keep it classy.

+1. Another parent IB for Deal, and I doubt that they're really a Deal parent--have not heard anyone talk like this about Hardy. My oldest is still pretty young, but I like the idea of a smaller school like Hardy.

You should offer to trade on Craigslist your Deal IB spot for Hardy. You will probably get 100 offers.

PP. My oldest is 6. I’d guess that by the time she’s of age, we won’t even be having these conversations. Hardy will be just as sought after as Deal by then, if not before.

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I would hope that Deal doesn’t stand still while Hardy tries to catch up. Then again, it’s DC.

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While Deal and Hardy families compete and throw stones, other DCPS middle schools will truly blossom and become the stars in D.C., or at least share some of the limelight.

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Anonymous wrote:While Deal and Hardy families compete and throw stones, other DCPS middle schools will truly blossom and become the stars in D.C., or at least share some of the limelight.

Let’s hope so! It would be great if there were a bunch of solid middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:While Deal and Hardy families compete and throw stones, other DCPS middle schools will truly blossom and become the stars in D.C., or at least share some of the limelight.

Let’s hope so! It would be great if there were a bunch of solid middle schools.

PP and Deal IB parent. Agreed.