Time for a citywide traditional elementary school in each ward

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

I agree with everything you say, except the numbers I've seen are 80% FARMS and 45% at-risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

[Anonymous]

Attracting more middle-class residents to the poor parts of the city just displaces the poor, by driving up real estate prices.

[Anonymous]

My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

Smug Deal parents make me laugh. Honey, you need to have a talk with your Financial Advisor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could do that today. Eaton and Hearst in Ward 3 still have very large OOB enrollments. DCPS could say, “No - stop! We are not going to lose these schools, not going to let them flip to IB. They will never become like Janney. They must remain jewels accessible on the basis of equality and inclusion to the entire community of DC!”

Same with Maury and Van Ness in capitol hill which are going to be all white and high SES within the next 5-10 years most likely

Van Ness won't be in Maury's league until they can raise $50K every year to send every 5th grader to a week of Space Camp in Huntsville, AL. Sorry, but a condo on the Wharf just isn't a historic home on the Hill.

The Wharf isn't even IB for VN so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

But neither does the disgusting yay VN will be all rich and white in 5 years poster. There are two large public housing developments in SW that feed into VN and aren't going anywhere, plus the mixed-income housing that was part of the Capper redevelopment in Navy Yard where public housing residents still live (Capitol Quarter, the Bixby, etc, with other buildings still under construction or being planned). The neighborhood is richer and whiter than it was 10 years ago but it's--thankfully--going to remain at least somewhat diverse and affordable for the foreseeable future.

Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

or you could add more public/affordable housing in the richer parts of DC but politically that's never going to happen

Or you could try to attract more middle class residents to the poor parts of the city.

Aw, so cute! Anonymous posters on DCUM need to do their part to accelerate gentrification!

In case you hadn't noticed, that is why the menopausal Type As in their unrenovated 1900 sq ft houselets in upper NW are so bitter. Some people paid nearly $1M for a makeover house that they can't afford to actually make over. They are MAD that other people with nicer houses in neighborhoods with more to offer now have access to everything they thought they paid for. It's not fair that other families have good schools! Dammit - they paid in money and formica and broken tile and bathrooms that haven't been renovated since pink was a decorator color. They want exclusive schools. They should have paid less in housing so they could buy into private because now they have to share DEAL with half of DC and they are MAD MAD MAD. (Don't even point out that they should have just moved to Rockthesda in the first place.)

NP. You are making it difficult to tell who is the mad one in this exchange. You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about other people’s lives. Why is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

I hope you stick with it but the stats say you won't

Also big difference between truly title 1 and a gentrifying title 1. When you start to become an only or close to it (not just race I'm talking more SES) it gets really tough to stay.

[Anonymous]

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Van Ness is the model school. Enough richer (and yes whiters) kids for it to be bearable for folks, racial and ses diversity, and not overwhelming poverty or at-risk folks. The problem is the demographics of DCPS are 70% FARMS and 40% at-risk. No upper middle class parent wants that for their kid black, white, Hispanic, Asian none. And since DC is segregated so much by class and race. The schools that aren't in the wealthiest areas have even higher percentages of FARMS and at-risk kids. So the best you can hope for is. Neighborhood schools in wealthy areas (check), and magnets in other areas (what should be happening).

Yup - that's the way to allows white families to 'keep' mostly with other white families . . . . I don't know if people don't realize the implications of what they're saying or if we should just go ahead and build the walls so there can be white enclaves for those who want them and be really clear on who's in for thinking about society at large or who's in for thinking only about their white selves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

Come back and talk to us after your kid gets their PARCC scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

I hope you stick with it but the stats say you won't

Also big difference between truly title 1 and a gentrifying title 1. When you start to become an only or close to it (not just race I'm talking more SES) it gets really tough to stay.

Oh good, more qualifiers.

It's just not that simple or clear racially or SES. That's also not my focus. Our kids are racially mixed. And I'm not entirely clear on the SES of many classmates families although I know the school overall has relatively high poverty.

What I do see is that there's a cohort of kids performing above grade level along with our kids. That's pretty much all I care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are getting a good education at a title 1 school. Maybe don’t be as close minded.

Dollars to donuts you have a kid in second grade or less and/or you aren't at least upper middle class

I'm sorry not calling you out but this comes up over and over again

If you somehow stay to middle school and you are not at Deal feel free to call me out

It's actually changed year over year.

When we first started, it was "call me when you've experienced more than PK", then K, now 2nd or middle school.

We're enrolling for 3rd now BTW, so good guess. But I don't buy your point.

Come back and talk to us after your kid gets their PARCC scores.

Ok, I expect 5s. Standardized tests shouldn't be an issue for them. I also wouldn't be horrified by 4s. I can see what my kids are learning and their strengths/weaknesses.

See you in a little over a year.