2018 AAP Admission Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

I don't know the GBRS yet. Also her COGAT composite is 131( that is 1 point lower than the cut off. Another reason could be her Verbal( verbal was lower than other sections, but since she is bilingual, english being the second language in our house we thought she is doing okay.

Some schools give lower GBRS scores to their well behaved girls so they can keep them there. If you arrange for your child to take the WISC and appeal, you can at least know that you covered your bases. I've seen this happen over a few different class years at my child's school in the eastern Fairfax County area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

I don't know the GBRS yet. Also her COGAT composite is 131( that is 1 point lower than the cut off. Another reason could be her Verbal( verbal was lower than other sections, but since she is bilingual, english being the second language in our house we thought she is doing okay.

Some schools give lower GBRS scores to their well behaved girls so they can keep them there. If you arrange for your child to take the WISC and appeal, you can at least know that you covered your bases. I've seen this happen over a few different class years at my child's school in the eastern Fairfax County area.

Your statement about schools lowering scores to keep well-behaved girls is probably one of the most ridiculous comments I’ve ever seen here. And that is saying a lot. Please stop with your nonsense observations. Are you an FCPS staff member? Were you sitting in on the screening meetings? Do you regularly throw out such absurd statements and then pretend that they are fact?

[Anonymous]

Zip: 20194 - received letter on Sat. 4/7 for 2nd grader

NNAT: 123
CogAT: 138
GBRS: I don't know

In - accepted for Level IV AAP


My older child, who is now in 5th grade, had basically flipped these scores a few years ago (NNAT 135, CogAT 118, WISC 119), and despite being automatically entered into the screening pool, did not get in initially, or upon appeal (we only appealed for 3rd grade - didn't apply the following years) - he has received Level III AAP services every year starting in 3rd grade. He has dyslexia/dysgraphia, so I think they're more hesitant to accept "twice exceptional" kids with writing difficulties. It seems to reinforce that the CogAT is weighed more heavily than the NNAT by the screening committee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

I don't know the GBRS yet. Also her COGAT composite is 131( that is 1 point lower than the cut off. Another reason could be her Verbal( verbal was lower than other sections, but since she is bilingual, english being the second language in our house we thought she is doing okay.

Some schools give lower GBRS scores to their well behaved girls so they can keep them there. If you arrange for your child to take the WISC and appeal, you can at least know that you covered your bases. I've seen this happen over a few different class years at my child's school in the eastern Fairfax County area.

Your statement about schools lowering scores to keep well-behaved girls is probably one of the most ridiculous comments I’ve ever seen here. And that is saying a lot. Please stop with your nonsense observations. Are you an FCPS staff member? Were you sitting in on the screening meetings? Do you regularly throw out such absurd statements and then pretend that they are fact?

You're right, I did not sit in on screening meetings, although I do have background as a teacher in a different school district. I am repeating an observation made by numerous parents at my child's school, with many anecdotal real life examples. Parents have told me about many girls who were in the pool who were not accepted while boys who were not in the pool were accepted.

Obviously, this isn't a policy on the part of the school. It might be something that just happens because quiet, well-behaved girls might not be seen as being as bright as they are because they don't excitedly call out answers or jump up to volunteer for things. My own child's AAP class consisted of more boys than girls over their four years from third through sixth.

In any event, when parents of girls who were in pool but not accepted ask me if they should appeal, I almost always say yes, because I know that girls like that can easily get overlooked. My kids are out of that school now but we are involved in activities that have younger kids. The parents know me and know I have a background in education, so that is why they ask me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

I don't know the GBRS yet. Also her COGAT composite is 131( that is 1 point lower than the cut off. Another reason could be her Verbal( verbal was lower than other sections, but since she is bilingual, english being the second language in our house we thought she is doing okay.

Some schools give lower GBRS scores to their well behaved girls so they can keep them there. If you arrange for your child to take the WISC and appeal, you can at least know that you covered your bases. I've seen this happen over a few different class years at my child's school in the eastern Fairfax County area.

Your statement about schools lowering scores to keep well-behaved girls is probably one of the most ridiculous comments I’ve ever seen here. And that is saying a lot. Please stop with your nonsense observations. Are you an FCPS staff member? Were you sitting in on the screening meetings? Do you regularly throw out such absurd statements and then pretend that they are fact?

You're right, I did not sit in on screening meetings, although I do have background as a teacher in a different school district. I am repeating an observation made by numerous parents at my child's school, with many anecdotal real life examples. Parents have told me about many girls who were in the pool who were not accepted while boys who were not in the pool were accepted.

Obviously, this isn't a policy on the part of the school. It might be something that just happens because quiet, well-behaved girls might not be seen as being as bright as they are because they don't excitedly call out answers or jump up to volunteer for things. My own child's AAP class consisted of more boys than girls over their four years from third through sixth.

In any event, when parents of girls who were in pool but not accepted ask me if they should appeal, I almost always say yes, because I know that girls like that can easily get overlooked. My kids are out of that school now but we are involved in activities that have younger kids. The parents know me and know I have a background in education, so that is why they ask me.

Damn, PP. You really are embarrassing yourself. You would have done well to just respond with, 'You're right. I had no business making such a statement."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

I don't know the GBRS yet. Also her COGAT composite is 131( that is 1 point lower than the cut off. Another reason could be her Verbal( verbal was lower than other sections, but since she is bilingual, english being the second language in our house we thought she is doing okay.

Some schools give lower GBRS scores to their well behaved girls so they can keep them there. If you arrange for your child to take the WISC and appeal, you can at least know that you covered your bases. I've seen this happen over a few different class years at my child's school in the eastern Fairfax County area.

Your statement about schools lowering scores to keep well-behaved girls is probably one of the most ridiculous comments I’ve ever seen here. And that is saying a lot. Please stop with your nonsense observations. Are you an FCPS staff member? Were you sitting in on the screening meetings? Do you regularly throw out such absurd statements and then pretend that they are fact?

You're right, I did not sit in on screening meetings, although I do have background as a teacher in a different school district. I am repeating an observation made by numerous parents at my child's school, with many anecdotal real life examples. Parents have told me about many girls who were in the pool who were not accepted while boys who were not in the pool were accepted.

Obviously, this isn't a policy on the part of the school. It might be something that just happens because quiet, well-behaved girls might not be seen as being as bright as they are because they don't excitedly call out answers or jump up to volunteer for things. My own child's AAP class consisted of more boys than girls over their four years from third through sixth.

In any event, when parents of girls who were in pool but not accepted ask me if they should appeal, I almost always say yes, because I know that girls like that can easily get overlooked. My kids are out of that school now but we are involved in activities that have younger kids. The parents know me and know I have a background in education, so that is why they ask me.

Damn, PP. You really are embarrassing yourself. You would have done well to just respond with, 'You're right. I had no business making such a statement."

+1. I agree. This thread is becoming annoying. The other thread named “AAP letter today?” Is much more useful and less of this none sense like the previous PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CogAT - 136
NNAT - Not Submitted
GBRS - 14
Zip - 20120

Result - In

We’re going from private to public, so my guess is that they only considered the test score and work samples (maybe the awards/recommendations as well).

If you are zoned for the Bull Run AAP center, I have heard not great things about it.

Me, as well. I think there were issues related to a principal who is no longer there, resulting in poor morale, high teacher turnover, etc. We’re hoping that things have changed, for the better. Worst case scenario is that we will have to go back to her school, and that’s okay, too.

NP-We know a family that went for third and then came back to our base school (last year), because their child wasn't happy at Bull Run. I think it is a much bigger school and maybe more of an institutional/rigid feel.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone here whose kid got in with test scores below cutoff? All I see is that those who received the letter have higher than cut off test score ... that accounts for 2% of the kids in fx county! What about the rest of the 10 percent?

[Anonymous]

We are below cut off and waiting to hear...

[Anonymous]

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Is anyone here whose kid got in with test scores below cutoff? All I see is that those who received the letter have higher than cut off test score ... that accounts for 2% of the kids in fx county! What about the rest of the 10 percent?

The test score cutoff is set at/around 10% of Fairfax students (actually, because of the two tests, it probably is higher than 10%). Not 2%.

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NP-We know a family that went for third and then came back to our base school (last year), because their child wasn't happy at Bull Run. I think it is a much bigger school and maybe more of an institutional/rigid feel.

Would you know why the child was not happy? Bad teachers? Poor instruction? Lack of rigor in academics? Anything like that?

I don't think going back to Virginia Run is an option for us. The school was fine, her teacher was great, but DD was miserable. She would come home and cry every day, because she felt that her "brain was rusting" (yeah, seriously; someone's a bit melodramatic), and although she did her best to show her teacher she could do more challenging work, nothing really came of it. We can go back to private, but $, and the commute is hell-ish. As long as the academics are decent, she will be okay.

I wish the forums were not anonymous; it would be easier to update people on how the experience is, a few months into next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

Cogat score is below cut-off however appeal should get your DC in AAP. What is your DC GBRS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Zip: 20194 - received letter on Sat. 4/7 for 2nd grader

NNAT: 123
CogAT: 138
GBRS: I don't know

In - accepted for Level IV AAP


My older child, who is now in 5th grade, had basically flipped these scores a few years ago (NNAT 135, CogAT 118, WISC 119), and despite being automatically entered into the screening pool, did not get in initially, or upon appeal (we only appealed for 3rd grade - didn't apply the following years) - he has received Level III AAP services every year starting in 3rd grade. He has dyslexia/dysgraphia, so I think they're more hesitant to accept "twice exceptional" kids with writing difficulties. It seems to reinforce that the CogAT is weighed more heavily than the NNAT by the screening committee.

Well but with the WISC basically backing up the CogAT score (within one point, and both pretty well below the 132 "cutoff"), couldn't it also be that 2 out of the 3 data points for your older child supported that he/she was better served in the general education classroom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.

Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?

Cogat score is below cut-off however appeal should get your DC in AAP. What is your DC GBRS?

So I figured Cogat result is the key here. If 132+, in.

[Anonymous]

We took wisc 2 weeks ago . Got a reject letter .

NNAT 127
Cogat 119
Wisc fsiq 127 ( 96 percentile ) vci 113 vsi 111 fri 121 wmI 117 psi 116

Is there a chance we can appeal