Why is MCPS radicalizing our children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To turn this conversation back to something the OP said:

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So we pay taxes so MCPS can advance political agendas and allow our children to be used as Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces?

The main issue OP raised is the leftist propaganda that MCPS spews at our kids every day. Our DD is a high school senior who finds herself in the unfortunate position of living in Mont. Co. and having parents who, at least in this area, are considered to have right-of-center views. She is told each day how evil her parents are because they believe in personal responsibility, support capitalist economies, and hold dear the first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech.

It would be nice if her teachers exposed her to the other side of some arguments on topics such as what is believed to be man-made climate change, the wonders of socialism, how Israelis are solely responsible for the problems in the middle east, and so on. It appears that, in MCPS, this is too much to ask.

DD comes home nearly every day confused because her parents seem to be nice people who have strong values, only to hear how heartless and selfish they are from school personnel. She is only exposed to one side of these arguments at school. Fortunately, we have a good relationship with her, and while we explain our side, we make it clear that how she feels about these issues are her decision to make. However, it would be helpful if she heard the other side from the school when they choose to discuss these topics.

Imagine if you were in your workplace and were constantly hearing how terrible your loved ones are for questioning the majority opinion in our local area? We are outraged that our taxes are used to fund schools that perpetuate the belief that there is only one acceptable opinion on a host of controversial topics.

OP - thank you for bring this subject to light. It is a sad situation. We have lived in Montgomery County for close to three decades, so it's not like we are surprised about all of this. But it is still unfortunate.

Look OP, you found a fellow crazy conspiracy theorist! "man-made climate change, the wonders of socialism, how Israelis are solely responsible for the problems in the middle east, and so on." See, you're not alone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing... DD’s best friend is the child of Czech immigrants. Her father watched his grandfather, a veteran who fought the Nazis, have his guns confiscated by the State, arrested and executed. His father was jailed and tortured for attending the funeral. In School the teachers would add ish him for having a father in jail, not belonging to the party, other children would jump on him for being the son of a traitor. His dad eventually was released and when her father was a young man was able to leave the country. He settled in the US and now like us is raising a family with children in MC schools. Suffice to say his daughter knows how to use firearms. She relayed to my daughter yesterday that her school staged a similar walk out last week and she remained in class. The other kids asked her why she didn’t want to come out and help all the students ‘defend their rights’. ‘Aren’t you concerned about our sadety’. She flat out told them I not join you in attempt to deny other people their rights. Some kids said OK, others igorned but quite a few actually derided her. Called her names, teased her... but that young girl is made of strong stuff. What a great roll model and I’m so glad my daughter knows her and is friends with her.

I am sure the State wouldn't have dared to arrest and execute the grandfather if he still had his guns. Because we all know that the State is scared of guns and doesn't have any means to fight against those who own guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found OP's post hilarious? Ahahaha "Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces"

I think this post is payback by one of this forum's trolls for criticizing the tone of the forum, particularly with respect to race and class issues. Now she's on to the evils of gun control.

[Anonymous]

All I will say is that I hope people realize that the CRM was driven by high school and college kids. They were the ones getting hosed, bitten by dogs and thrown in police wagons. Their parents did not want them out there either and schools would lock the gates to try to keep them in school. They found a way to make their voices heard about the type of world they wanted to grow up in. My kids read and we discuss - they are smart enough to form their own opinions about current events (and some differ from mine). Some of you should give these kids more credit.

[Anonymous]

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I've already called our principle to voice my concern, please if you agree with me do so as well. Our children need to grow into responsible adults to allow their full individuality to bloom , let's not allow them to be used as pawns.

I agree with you, OP. Which is why I agree with the student protests. The way you become a responsible, involved member of society is to start being a responsible, involved member of society.

Walking out of school is not responsible IMHO, and not a real way to solve problems.

Tell that to all the students who have been walking out for weeks in Florida. The state legislature just passed its first gun control laws in 22 years.
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/03/07/florida-house-passes-first-gun-controls-20-years-gov-scott-wont-say-if-hell-sign/405048002/

Minors are considered minors because they do not have the maturity, reasoning skills, and experience to make adult decisions. They can be persuaded by emotive vice intellectual arguments and this yet not ready to accept the responsibly legal adult status conveys. We don’t allow children to purchase alcohol for the same reason. Now indeed adults will make the same mistakes but an adult is held responsible for the mistakes they make, children are not. Or do you think, we’ll children will be adults soon, they might as well buy alcohol now and get experience?? So any politician who panders to the emotional outburst of children (likely under the influence of political activists) is a fool, and should not hold an elective office. Better yet, children will be adults soon, let’s have the ones interested in doing so buy a gun now and bring it to school so they can protect themselves and their peers. If you can allow these children to behave responsible, I’ll concede that we can let children who decide to go to protests leave school to do so.

But it's ok for them to get a weapon of war with no background or mental check because of inalienable rights.

Good point, bats are weapons of war too. Alas, DS is banned from playing baseball at recess, now I know why... psst by the way, we already have back ground checks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Teaching kids its OK to go protest whatever their heart desires " - you mean like in the First Amendment? Oh right, only the Second Amendment should be protected since that's the one you care about. Isn't that right?

So children should leave school to protest every perceived offense to the first amendment too? They’d never be in school. That’s the whole point, children should be learning to read, write, speak, be competent at math, and along they way learn how to be critical thinkers. Not be instructed in how to join a street mob. If you want DS or DD to be a good little jobless commnity organizer, homeschool them,m. Our taxes need to be spent teaching the former.

By the way, recommend you be careful what you wish for, perhaps next children really will be out demanding their first amendment rights in School and at home m. Remember “ Fword the the draft”? That is free speech, you children may demand to tell you or their teacher to f-off. Or worse, they’ll be protesting for a real first amendment right... to have prayer in school. However I’m sure MCPS would finally tighten down to nix that that one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found OP's post hilarious? Ahahaha "Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces"

I think this post is payback by one of this forum's trolls for criticizing the tone of the forum, particularly with respect to race and class issues. Now she's on to the evils of gun control.

You are hysterical, if you’d been reading the comments you’d know that ‘she’ is a he. Seems you are the troll. LoL, you can’t make this stuff up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found OP's post hilarious? Ahahaha "Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces"

I think this post is payback by one of this forum's trolls for criticizing the tone of the forum, particularly with respect to race and class issues. Now she's on to the evils of gun control.

totally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I will say is that I hope people realize that the CRM was driven by high school and college kids. They were the ones getting hosed, bitten by dogs and thrown in police wagons. Their parents did not want them out there either and schools would lock the gates to try to keep them in school. They found a way to make their voices heard about the type of world they wanted to grow up in. My kids read and we discuss - they are smart enough to form their own opinions about current events (and some differ from mine). Some of you should give these kids more credit.

+1 our children are radicalizing the school systems, and I'm glad to see it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found OP's post hilarious? Ahahaha "Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces"

I think this post is payback by one of this forum's trolls for criticizing the tone of the forum, particularly with respect to race and class issues. Now she's on to the evils of gun control.

totally

+1 Too bad Jeff doesn't have a policy against crazytalk posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To turn this conversation back to something the OP said:

Anonymous wrote:

So we pay taxes so MCPS can advance political agendas and allow our children to be used as Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces?

The main issue OP raised is the leftist propaganda that MCPS spews at our kids every day. Our DD is a high school senior who finds herself in the unfortunate position of living in Mont. Co. and having parents who, at least in this area, are considered to have right-of-center views. She is told each day how evil her parents are because they believe in personal responsibility, support capitalist economies, and hold dear the first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech.

It would be nice if her teachers exposed her to the other side of some arguments on topics such as what is believed to be man-made climate change, the wonders of socialism, how Israelis are solely responsible for the problems in the middle east, and so on. It appears that, in MCPS, this is too much to ask.

DD comes home nearly every day confused because her parents seem to be nice people who have strong values, only to hear how heartless and selfish they are from school personnel. She is only exposed to one side of these arguments at school. Fortunately, we have a good relationship with her, and while we explain our side, we make it clear that how she feels about these issues are her decision to make. However, it would be helpful if she heard the other side from the school when they choose to discuss these topics.

Imagine if you were in your workplace and were constantly hearing how terrible your loved ones are for questioning the majority opinion in our local area? We are outraged that our taxes are used to fund schools that perpetuate the belief that there is only one acceptable opinion on a host of controversial topics.

OP - thank you for bring this subject to light. It is a sad situation. We have lived in Montgomery County for close to three decades, so it's not like we are surprised about all of this. But it is still unfortunate.

Look OP, you found a fellow crazy conspiracy theorist! "man-made climate change, the wonders of socialism, how Israelis are solely responsible for the problems in the middle east, and so on." See, you're not alone!

So the commentator articulates a fair concern (perhaps rightly, perhaps wrongly but is concerned nevertheless) that MCPS does not allow viewpoint diversity in its curriculum and your response is to mock her/him?? You just reinforced her concern and provided validation for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I will say is that I hope people realize that the CRM was driven by high school and college kids. They were the ones getting hosed, bitten by dogs and thrown in police wagons. Their parents did not want them out there either and schools would lock the gates to try to keep them in school. They found a way to make their voices heard about the type of world they wanted to grow up in. My kids read and we discuss - they are smart enough to form their own opinions about current events (and some differ from mine). Some of you should give these kids more credit.

+1 our children are radicalizing the school systems, and I'm glad to see it.

+1 million. They are the change we've been waiting for. If OP's kid doesn't want to be part of it fine, there's no requirement to do so, but these aren't MCPS driven initiatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:To turn this conversation back to something the OP said:

Anonymous wrote:

So we pay taxes so MCPS can advance political agendas and allow our children to be used as Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces?

The main issue OP raised is the leftist propaganda that MCPS spews at our kids every day. Our DD is a high school senior who finds herself in the unfortunate position of living in Mont. Co. and having parents who, at least in this area, are considered to have right-of-center views. She is told each day how evil her parents are because they believe in personal responsibility, support capitalist economies, and hold dear the first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech.

It would be nice if her teachers exposed her to the other side of some arguments on topics such as what is believed to be man-made climate change, the wonders of socialism, how Israelis are solely responsible for the problems in the middle east, and so on. It appears that, in MCPS, this is too much to ask.

DD comes home nearly every day confused because her parents seem to be nice people who have strong values, only to hear how heartless and selfish they are from school personnel. She is only exposed to one side of these arguments at school. Fortunately, we have a good relationship with her, and while we explain our side, we make it clear that how she feels about these issues are her decision to make. However, it would be helpful if she heard the other side from the school when they choose to discuss these topics.

Imagine if you were in your workplace and were constantly hearing how terrible your loved ones are for questioning the majority opinion in our local area? We are outraged that our taxes are used to fund schools that perpetuate the belief that there is only one acceptable opinion on a host of controversial topics.

OP - thank you for bring this subject to light. It is a sad situation. We have lived in Montgomery County for close to three decades, so it's not like we are surprised about all of this. But it is still unfortunate.

Look OP, you found a fellow crazy conspiracy theorist! "man-made climate change, the wonders of socialism, how Israelis are solely responsible for the problems in the middle east, and so on." See, you're not alone!

So the commentator articulates a fair concern (perhaps rightly, perhaps wrongly but is concerned nevertheless) that MCPS does not allow viewpoint diversity in its curriculum and your response is to mock her/him?? You just reinforced her concern and provided validation for it.

I'm mocking their beliefs, not their concern. This is not an MCPS problem, it's this way everywhere in the US. OP/PP are living in a liberal-leaning area. If I, as a liberal-leaning moderate, were residing in the Bible Belt, for instance, I would have the same concerns and complaints.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Teaching kids its OK to go protest whatever their heart desires " - you mean like in the First Amendment? Oh right, only the Second Amendment should be protected since that's the one you care about. Isn't that right?

So children should leave school to protest every perceived offense to the first amendment too? They’d never be in school. That’s the whole point, children should be learning to read, write, speak, be competent at math, and along they way learn how to be critical thinkers. Not be instructed in how to join a street mob. If you want DS or DD to be a good little jobless commnity organizer, homeschool them,m. Our taxes need to be spent teaching the former.

By the way, recommend you be careful what you wish for, perhaps next children really will be out demanding their first amendment rights in School and at home m. Remember “ Fword the the draft”? That is free speech, you children may demand to tell you or their teacher to f-off. Or worse, they’ll be protesting for a real first amendment right... to have prayer in school. However I’m sure MCPS would finally tighten down to nix that that one.

So in your mind, responding to a fatal mass shooting of their peers - after many MANY school shootings - is a " perceived offense"? That just... boggles the mind. I guess to some people, human lives, even the lives of innocent children, don't really count for much and aren't worth speaking up for. I bet you consider yourself a good Christian, too...

I don't think you understand how the First Amendment works. It's not guaranteeing protection from being punished one's parents or teachers, it's protection from persecution by the government.

If children started protesting the separation of church and state, that would be their right as well. Doubt this will happen here in MoCo though.

[Anonymous]

Grateful to these kids for finding a voice and courage to go along with it. It's their generation now. The old Trumpkins just haven't realized that yet.