Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?

Anonymous
De facto segregation is a fact unless APS starts bussing students way outside their boundary. No amount of boundary redrawing can correct the CBs affordable housing policy unless we bus aggressively
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:De facto segregation is a fact unless APS starts bussing students way outside their boundary. No amount of boundary redrawing can correct the CBs affordable housing policy unless we bus aggressively


How is this related to the fact that Tuckahoe has a really, really small number of walkers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:De facto segregation is a fact unless APS starts bussing students way outside their boundary. No amount of boundary redrawing can correct the CBs affordable housing policy unless we bus aggressively


How is this related to the fact that Tuckahoe has a really, really small number of walkers?


If pp thinks that aggressive busing is a possibility she probably thinks that a school with few walkers is nbd. Buses for everyone!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school board has only minimal ways to reduce FARMS rates, that is mainly decided by the county boards affordable housing policy. By far the easiest way to get inequitable FARMS rate under control is for the board to change AH policy to emphasize quality (build anywhere but the pike/Buchanan) over the current policy of quanitity


Yes, everyone knows the CB is to blame. It's the CB's fault for making decisions the same way the SB makes them: catering to small interest groups like hard-core "quanitity is most imperative" affordable housing advocates pushing for more and more and more in the same south Arlington neighborhoods.

Ok, got it. But that does not mean the SB can't do anything about the FRL rates in schools. SB makes boundaries and despite Arlingtonians entitlement to the closest school if it suits them, there are many ways boundaries can be made. All across the country, jurisdictions have implemented policies to help minimize the segregation in their schools that results from segregated neighborhoods. But Arlington "liberals" buckle down and insist those things are unfair, inefficient, social-engineering, and morally reprehensible.

Fact is, the CB is more limited in its ability to "social engineer" residential by-right development than the SB is limited to mitigate the impacts of existing housing patterns. With the exception of using race to determine admissions, the SB has the freedom to make boundaries in whatever manner it wants or needs. Everything we do - all policies, all pushback to proposals, finger-pointing and waiting for the other guy to change their policy first - is social engineering. We have social engineered the segregation in our County and in our schools.


Amen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school board has only minimal ways to reduce FARMS rates, that is mainly decided by the county boards affordable housing policy. By far the easiest way to get inequitable FARMS rate under control is for the board to change AH policy to emphasize quality (build anywhere but the pike/Buchanan) over the current policy of quanitity


Yes, everyone knows the CB is to blame. It's the CB's fault for making decisions the same way the SB makes them: catering to small interest groups like hard-core "quanitity is most imperative" affordable housing advocates pushing for more and more and more in the same south Arlington neighborhoods.

Ok, got it. But that does not mean the SB can't do anything about the FRL rates in schools. SB makes boundaries and despite Arlingtonians entitlement to the closest school if it suits them, there are many ways boundaries can be made. All across the country, jurisdictions have implemented policies to help minimize the segregation in their schools that results from segregated neighborhoods. But Arlington "liberals" buckle down and insist those things are unfair, inefficient, social-engineering, and morally reprehensible.

Fact is, the CB is more limited in its ability to "social engineer" residential by-right development than the SB is limited to mitigate the impacts of existing housing patterns. With the exception of using race to determine admissions, the SB has the freedom to make boundaries in whatever manner it wants or needs. Everything we do - all policies, all pushback to proposals, finger-pointing and waiting for the other guy to change their policy first - is social engineering. We have social engineered the segregation in our County and in our schools.


We get it, you bought in South Arlington but don’t like your neighborhood school so you want to upend the entire county so your child can go to a better one that you otherwise can’t afford.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:De facto segregation is a fact unless APS starts bussing students way outside their boundary. No amount of boundary redrawing can correct the CBs affordable housing policy unless we bus aggressively



Which nobody wants to do, so moving on....

Anonymous
And this thread has jumped the shark. Way to derail from the Tuckahoe issue into the same old SES complaining we see over and over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And this thread has jumped the shark. Way to derail from the Tuckahoe issue into the same old SES complaining we see over and over.


Boo f#cking hoo.
You didn’t buy a school with your house. Not enough kids can walk. Looks like your classist walkability chickens be comin’ home to roost.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school board has only minimal ways to reduce FARMS rates, that is mainly decided by the county boards affordable housing policy. By far the easiest way to get inequitable FARMS rate under control is for the board to change AH policy to emphasize quality (build anywhere but the pike/Buchanan) over the current policy of quanitity


Yes, everyone knows the CB is to blame. It's the CB's fault for making decisions the same way the SB makes them: catering to small interest groups like hard-core "quanitity is most imperative" affordable housing advocates pushing for more and more and more in the same south Arlington neighborhoods.

Ok, got it. But that does not mean the SB can't do anything about the FRL rates in schools. SB makes boundaries and despite Arlingtonians entitlement to the closest school if it suits them, there are many ways boundaries can be made. All across the country, jurisdictions have implemented policies to help minimize the segregation in their schools that results from segregated neighborhoods. But Arlington "liberals" buckle down and insist those things are unfair, inefficient, social-engineering, and morally reprehensible.

Fact is, the CB is more limited in its ability to "social engineer" residential by-right development than the SB is limited to mitigate the impacts of existing housing patterns. With the exception of using race to determine admissions, the SB has the freedom to make boundaries in whatever manner it wants or needs. Everything we do - all policies, all pushback to proposals, finger-pointing and waiting for the other guy to change their policy first - is social engineering. We have social engineered the segregation in our County and in our schools.


We get it, you bought in South Arlington but don’t like your neighborhood school so you want to upend the entire county so your child can go to a better one that you otherwise can’t afford.


+1,000
Anonymous
The houses near the top schools are crazy expensive, with hefty real estate taxes. I'm not trying to be crass, but the more desirable schools come with a price tag. If you don't like your neighborhood school, that is a choice you made when you bought your house. It's like complaining about going to a community college rather than Ivy League..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The houses near the top schools are crazy expensive, with hefty real estate taxes. I'm not trying to be crass, but the more desirable schools come with a price tag. If you don't like your neighborhood school, that is a choice you made when you bought your house. It's like complaining about going to a community college rather than Ivy League..


It’s is literally nothing like that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school board has only minimal ways to reduce FARMS rates, that is mainly decided by the county boards affordable housing policy. By far the easiest way to get inequitable FARMS rate under control is for the board to change AH policy to emphasize quality (build anywhere but the pike/Buchanan) over the current policy of quanitity


Yes, everyone knows the CB is to blame. It's the CB's fault for making decisions the same way the SB makes them: catering to small interest groups like hard-core "quanitity is most imperative" affordable housing advocates pushing for more and more and more in the same south Arlington neighborhoods.

Ok, got it. But that does not mean the SB can't do anything about the FRL rates in schools. SB makes boundaries and despite Arlingtonians entitlement to the closest school if it suits them, there are many ways boundaries can be made. All across the country, jurisdictions have implemented policies to help minimize the segregation in their schools that results from segregated neighborhoods. But Arlington "liberals" buckle down and insist those things are unfair, inefficient, social-engineering, and morally reprehensible.

Fact is, the CB is more limited in its ability to "social engineer" residential by-right development than the SB is limited to mitigate the impacts of existing housing patterns. With the exception of using race to determine admissions, the SB has the freedom to make boundaries in whatever manner it wants or needs. Everything we do - all policies, all pushback to proposals, finger-pointing and waiting for the other guy to change their policy first - is social engineering. We have social engineered the segregation in our County and in our schools.


Amen.

+1
Thank you for this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And this thread has jumped the shark. Way to derail from the Tuckahoe issue into the same old SES complaining we see over and over.


Boo f#cking hoo.
You didn’t buy a school with your house. Not enough kids can walk. Looks like your classist walkability chickens be comin’ home to roost.


Nope. You are missing the point. We aren't Tuckahoe and we do think it should be changed to an option school. However, the total shift in topic takes people away from that and seems like a diversion put forth by Tuck moms to keep us distracted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The houses near the top schools are crazy expensive, with hefty real estate taxes. I'm not trying to be crass, but the more desirable schools come with a price tag. If you don't like your neighborhood school, that is a choice you made when you bought your house. It's like complaining about going to a community college rather than Ivy League..


It’s is literally nothing like that.


explain?
Anonymous
Did anyone ever crunch the numbers on Nottingham? I haven’t seen them here, so assume that Tuckahoe will remain the best candidate for an option school in the NW part of the county.
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