could West Potomac become a Marshall in 10 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

There are two title I elementary schools like crest wood that could easily be moved over to west Springfield. They could move sangster to lake Braddock or another feeder since there is so much capacity there. But they won't. It's strange that the only schools on the west Springfield side of the mixing bowl that go to Lee are poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will change until we draw boundaries that equalize the demographics across SES from in every school.

Those won't be boundaries in any traditional sense. It would just be a lottery program for school assignments. And it would send parents fleeing to privates and other school systems. No one buys in Vienna so their kids can be bussed to Annandale. Even the Democrats know that.

[Anonymous]

There just wasn't this level of poverty and Ell before. Annandale, Lee, even Stuart...
They weren't maybe the best schools, but they weren't considered terrible.
I had friends at all of the those schools in the 80's and 90's. It's really irritating hearing people talk about them as though is just the way it is. It did not used to be that way.
So much so that the Saratoga neighborhood in Springfield had the option to be redrawn away from Lee, and they voted to stay. That was a while back. They had school
Pride, and their kids were doing well.
Huge mistake on their part, but in their defense, they didn't understand the larger changes the county was going through. They couldn't have known about the DACA and how that would play out in their schools. I'm sure they wouldn't have guessed that fairfax county would allow schools to slide so far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

There are two title I elementary schools like crest wood that could easily be moved over to west Springfield. They could move sangster to lake Braddock or another feeder since there is so much capacity there. But they won't. It's strange that the only schools on the west Springfield side of the mixing bowl that go to Lee are poor.

Sangster is already at Lake Braddock. They could move Sangster to South County... at least parts of Sanger's boundary is south of the Parkway. SC has the capacity too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

There are two title I elementary schools like crest wood that could easily be moved over to west Springfield. They could move sangster to lake Braddock or another feeder since there is so much capacity there. But they won't. It's strange that the only schools on the west Springfield side of the mixing bowl that go to Lee are poor.

I'd be on board with moving Crestwood and Garfield to West Springfield. My kids are still in elementary (rolling valley) and I don't have all the feeder schools figured out yet. So I'm not sure about the school numbers - is WSHS underenrolled compared to Lee (where Crestwood and Garfield go)? I don't know anyone who goes to Crestwood, but I know many people from Garfield (also a title 1 school).

[Anonymous]

Unless you want to bus kids all over the place, it's natural that there are going to be economic differences between schools in a district as large and dense as Fairfax. There are pockets of low income housing and pockets of very high income housing and pockets that are in the middle. If you assign schools by location, which is the easiest and most obvious solution, then these economic differences are inevitable. Isn't the good thing that Fairfax provides the same resources to all of the high schools so even if the student body is different they should, in theory, have the same opportunities. Is this not true?

I know many people who have sent their kids to West Potomac that have done very, very well. They have excellent music and arts there, good quality teachers, and the same course offerings as other AP high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

Economically, WSHS is almost exclusively O-3 through O-6 pay grades (or civilian equivalent feds) in modest 1960-70s homes.

It is also one of the moet geographically logical boundaries in fcps. I think that contributes a great deal to the sense of community in that area.

Fcps should try to model the WSHS boundary with as many of their schools as possible. It makes much more sense than their spider boundaries in other pyramids and really helps the commuity to take ownership of and pride in the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

There are two title I elementary schools like crest wood that could easily be moved over to west Springfield. They could move sangster to lake Braddock or another feeder since there is so much capacity there. But they won't. It's strange that the only schools on the west Springfield side of the mixing bowl that go to Lee are poor.

I'd be on board with moving Crestwood and Garfield to West Springfield. My kids are still in elementary (rolling valley) and I don't have all the feeder schools figured out yet. So I'm not sure about the school numbers - is WSHS underenrolled compared to Lee (where Crestwood and Garfield go)? I don't know anyone who goes to Crestwood, but I know many people from Garfield (also a title 1 school).

Lee and West Springfield are both underenrolled once you factor in the temporary capacity issues due to construction. WSHS was underenrolled before construction and will be underenrolled after construction. Lee is slightly more underenrolled than WS.

Fcps is not going to move the Sangster kids away from LB (under capacity) and the handful of Sangster houses zoned for WS are the closest to LB and WS than any of the other Sangster homes. To rezone the WSHS Sangster families to South County woukd require fcps to take a tiny donut hole out of the very edge of Sangster's boundaries and they are notgoing to do something that makes so little sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

There are two title I elementary schools like crest wood that could easily be moved over to west Springfield. They could move sangster to lake Braddock or another feeder since there is so much capacity there. But they won't. It's strange that the only schools on the west Springfield side of the mixing bowl that go to Lee are poor.

I'd be on board with moving Crestwood and Garfield to West Springfield. My kids are still in elementary (rolling valley) and I don't have all the feeder schools figured out yet. So I'm not sure about the school numbers - is WSHS underenrolled compared to Lee (where Crestwood and Garfield go)? I don't know anyone who goes to Crestwood, but I know many people from Garfield (also a title 1 school).

Lee and West Springfield are both underenrolled once you factor in the temporary capacity issues due to construction. WSHS was underenrolled before construction and will be underenrolled after construction. Lee is slightly more underenrolled than WS.

Fcps is not going to move the Sangster kids away from LB (under capacity) and the handful of Sangster houses zoned for WS are the closest to LB and WS than any of the other Sangster homes. To rezone the WSHS Sangster families to South County woukd require fcps to take a tiny donut hole out of the very edge of Sangster's boundaries and they are notgoing to do something that makes so little sense.

I think they should move Crestwood to West Springfield and move Hunt Valley to Lee.

[Anonymous]

And also move all of Wakefield Forest from Woodson to Annandale.

[Anonymous]

And move Canterbury Woods to Lake Braddock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And move Canterbury Woods to Lake Braddock.

Is there space at LB? If they moved Canterbury Woods to Lake Braddock and Wakefield Forest to Annandale, they could move Willow Springs to Woodson. That would get rid of an island zoned for Fairfax HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person in charge of boundary changes comes from West Springfield. Go figure.

To be fair, I live in West Springfield and it just isn't a very economically diverse section of the county. They did redistrict Daventry from Lee to WS. This is a townhome area, but high end town homes and these families go to elementary and middle school with kids that go to WSHS. So it really did make sense. They also geographically are closer to WSHS - to get to Lee, though the mileage isn't much more, you have to cross the mixing bowl area.

My point is that there isn't really a way to redistrict WSHS that would include more low income families without creating very odd boundaries. We don't have any multi-million dollar homes (see that previous post) but we also have few low income areas. It's a diverse area culturally, but not economically.

There are two title I elementary schools like crest wood that could easily be moved over to west Springfield. They could move sangster to lake Braddock or another feeder since there is so much capacity there. But they won't. It's strange that the only schools on the west Springfield side of the mixing bowl that go to Lee are poor.

I'd be on board with moving Crestwood and Garfield to West Springfield. My kids are still in elementary (rolling valley) and I don't have all the feeder schools figured out yet. So I'm not sure about the school numbers - is WSHS underenrolled compared to Lee (where Crestwood and Garfield go)? I don't know anyone who goes to Crestwood, but I know many people from Garfield (also a title 1 school).

Lee and West Springfield are both underenrolled once you factor in the temporary capacity issues due to construction. WSHS was underenrolled before construction and will be underenrolled after construction. Lee is slightly more underenrolled than WS.

Fcps is not going to move the Sangster kids away from LB (under capacity) and the handful of Sangster houses zoned for WS are the closest to LB and WS than any of the other Sangster homes. To rezone the WSHS Sangster families to South County woukd require fcps to take a tiny donut hole out of the very edge of Sangster's boundaries and they are notgoing to do something that makes so little sense.

I think they should move Crestwood to West Springfield and move Hunt Valley to Lee.

That is laughable considering that there are nine elementary schools between Hunt Valley and Lee high school: Garfield, Crestwood, Springfield Estates, Keene Mill, West Springfield, Rolling Valley, Cardinal Forest and Forestdale. Orange Hunt and Hunt Valley are on the same road about a block apart and are the farthest WSHS feeders from Lee HS.

[Anonymous]

^^^ eights, nine if you include Orange Hunt.

There is some strange poster on the VA school forums who is obsessed with wanting Hunt Valley to be zoned for Lee HS, even though it makes zero sense and even though Hunt Valley is the farthest of all of the WSHS zoned schools from Lee.