Debate last night - change anything for anyone?

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Anonymous wrote: Clinton to more debt and lawlessness


please explain what lawlessness means here. Are you talking about the clinton's personally or is this some allusion to "law and order", which no one has actually been able to define


I mean Clinton now following Obama's example by ignoring separation of powers and doing whatever she likes on treaties, appointments, etc. It's dangerous, and neither party should do it. We have divided government - it means not much meaningful will happen without consensus. Win congressional elections if you want to re-write laws.


I should add that probably all future President's will now do this. It is a terrible legacy.
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I don't know if the debate did or if Friday's tape did. I was going for Gary Johnson but now I am holding my nose for Clinton.
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Anonymous wrote: Clinton to more debt and lawlessness


please explain what lawlessness means here. Are you talking about the clinton's personally or is this some allusion to "law and order", which no one has actually been able to define


I mean Clinton now following Obama's example by ignoring separation of powers and doing whatever she likes on treaties, appointments, etc. It's dangerous, and neither party should do it. We have divided government - it means not much meaningful will happen without consensus. Win congressional elections if you want to re-write laws.


consensus would be possible if your ilk actually believed in compromise...which is what our branches are supposed to be doing. This doesn't mean you get everything you want - it means bother sides give a little.


What exactly is my 'ilk'?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a longtime Hillary supporter, and last night didn't change that.

But I did start crying a few times thinking that this is where we are. A boorish, loutish, uninformed, dangerous, pussy grabbing bully has almost as much support for President as a woman whose scandals of email use, foreign policy, and handling affair rumors would be mere blips if they were on the resume of a man.

It's such a double standard, and it's really depressing.


I am a man and I totally agree with you. Most women are any day more mature, more thoughtful than most men. Hillary is eminently qualified and she is such a fighter to carry the BILL BAGGAGE and still win. Trump is in a league of his own(Oldmen P**** grabber league), atleast at the presidential contest level.
Anonymous
Nope. I dislike Hillary Clinton, I think she's smarmy, I wish Sanders would've gotten a fair shake. But I'm voting for her because she has many redeeming qualities, not the least of which is that she's not nearly as disgusting and reviling as Donald J(aggoff) Trump or the GOP's craptastic platform.
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Anonymous wrote:Prior to the debate I really felt that the chance of Trump winning was getting to the point that I was beginning to lose hope. Heading into the second debate, I was really nervous whether Trump can stay on strategy rather than react to attacks on his personality faults.

I still think he could have done a lot better answering the tax question, but maybe his strategy team has reasons not to get too complicated into the tax issues.

After last night, I believe that he at the very least came out even if not won. Many times during the debate, it was obvious that Hillary was hunting for answers she didn't have, drawing out her sentences and frequently asking people to just go to her website for fact checks. It is as if she was caught off guard by Trump's performance in contrast to the first debate.

Many analysts believe that he needs to have a clear win in this second debate in order to pull out ahead. I don't think we have that, so I am still worried. However, his performance does give me some hope towards the third debate.


Buffett has paid taxes since he was 13 and he has never used the carry forward loss provision in 72 years of tax filing. He paid close to $2Million in federal income taxes last year. he is under audit and says that he will release his taxes if Trump does BECAUSE there is no legal reason not to. Buffet was also donated close to #3Billion to charity last year.
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Anonymous wrote:For me? Yes. It reaffirmed just how complicit the media is with the Democratic party.

It's a very dangerous thing for the media not to be a neutral party.

My vote will go with the Republicans because that can't stand.

The first step for you to heal is to shut off your main sources of "information." No Fox, no right wing radio, no clicking on that forward from your neighbor. You have to come back to Earth.


I don't watch Fox. I do listen to those I know and have come to respect, who work at Breitbart, the Heritage Foundation, and the Media Research Center. I have lost respect for others from the WaPo and NYT because they have fallen into this pit.

I watch what's going on in Europe very carefully. They are our test case for what will happen when refugees are placed here with only the 'vetting' we have. It can't be good if multiple refugees placed here have had active TB. How can one miss that?


You are worried about TB? Really? Yes, poor refugees fleeing war have a very high rate of TB. So do people coming from high prevalence countries of all stripes. That's why we treat them. With drugs. And they get better. My God. If you would shut your door to a child fleeing violence because she has a curable illness that has an infinitesimally small chance of spreading here in the US...I don't think we have much common ground.


Knuckle Draggers live 100 years ago when there was no anti-biotic or vaccinations. You know when smallpox, polio, TB and plague used to run around.
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Anonymous wrote:I am voting Trump because Pence is on the ticket. Mind made up, voting for Trump now matter what skeletons they trot out on stage. Hillary has just as many or more skeletons but being having a criminal mind, she is better at hiding them.

Oh, come off it. You were in the (toilet) tank for Trump anyway. Nothing was "changed" for you.


Just as you are with HRC. Deal with it your immoral idiot


"YOUR" tells everything about you.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a longtime Hillary supporter, and last night didn't change that.

But I did start crying a few times thinking that this is where we are. A boorish, loutish, uninformed, dangerous, pussy grabbing bully has almost as much support for President as a woman whose scandals of email use, foreign policy, and handling affair rumors would be mere blips if they were on the resume of a man.

It's such a double standard, and it's really depressing.


I am a man and I totally agree with you. Most women are any day more mature, more thoughtful than most men. Hillary is eminently qualified and she is such a fighter to carry the BILL BAGGAGE and still win. Trump is in a league of his own(Oldmen P**** grabber league), atleast at the presidential contest level.


There are plenty of men in a lot of trouble for what she did with her e-mail. She got a pass on what has landed others in court.
Anonymous
Trump will go full "she's going to take away your guns" in debate 3. Wedge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My first election that I could vote in was Reagan/Mondale in 1984. Serious people with a history of accomplishments. You many not have liked their politics, but it was a valid choice. And if one won versus the other, we would be ok. These two bozo's today are an embarrassment, and they will each take us in a dangerous direction - Clinton to more debt and lawlessness, Trump to who knows where. Mitt Romney and Joe Biden must spend a lot of time thinking about what might have been.


Both Mitt and Joe would have lost the primary...badly.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Prior to the debate I really felt that the chance of Trump winning was getting to the point that I was beginning to lose hope. Heading into the second debate, I was really nervous whether Trump can stay on strategy rather than react to attacks on his personality faults.

I still think he could have done a lot better answering the tax question, but maybe his strategy team has reasons not to get too complicated into the tax issues.

After last night, I believe that he at the very least came out even if not won. Many times during the debate, it was obvious that Hillary was hunting for answers she didn't have, drawing out her sentences and frequently asking people to just go to her website for fact checks. It is as if she was caught off guard by Trump's performance in contrast to the first debate.

Many analysts believe that he needs to have a clear win in this second debate in order to pull out ahead. I don't think we have that, so I am still worried. However, his performance does give me some hope towards the third debate.


Buffett has paid taxes since he was 13 and he has never used the carry forward loss provision in 72 years of tax filing. He paid close to $2Million in federal income taxes last year. he is under audit and says that he will release his taxes if Trump does BECAUSE there is no legal reason not to. Buffet was also donated close to #3Billion to charity last year.


Berkshire Hathaway is a public company, Trump Organization is not. You cannot really compare the two tax situations, not matter whose side you are trying to argue. If he paid $2M in federal tax last year, don't you think that's a bit low for someone worth $65B?
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Anonymous wrote:Trump will go full "she's going to take away your guns" in debate 3. Wedge.


That would be talking to his 40% and declining. He is down by 7/8 points in avg of poll as of today. No matter what he does he has lost the women,educated men and minority votes. This election is over. He has no money and GOP is spending money on senate/house races.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Prior to the debate I really felt that the chance of Trump winning was getting to the point that I was beginning to lose hope. Heading into the second debate, I was really nervous whether Trump can stay on strategy rather than react to attacks on his personality faults.

I still think he could have done a lot better answering the tax question, but maybe his strategy team has reasons not to get too complicated into the tax issues.

After last night, I believe that he at the very least came out even if not won. Many times during the debate, it was obvious that Hillary was hunting for answers she didn't have, drawing out her sentences and frequently asking people to just go to her website for fact checks. It is as if she was caught off guard by Trump's performance in contrast to the first debate.

Many analysts believe that he needs to have a clear win in this second debate in order to pull out ahead. I don't think we have that, so I am still worried. However, his performance does give me some hope towards the third debate.


Buffett has paid taxes since he was 13 and he has never used the carry forward loss provision in 72 years of tax filing. He paid close to $2Million in federal income taxes last year. he is under audit and says that he will release his taxes if Trump does BECAUSE there is no legal reason not to. Buffet was also donated close to #3Billion to charity last year.


Berkshire Hathaway is a public company, Trump Organization is not. You cannot really compare the two tax situations, not matter whose side you are trying to argue. If he paid $2M in federal tax last year, don't you think that's a bit low for someone worth $65B?


Finance 101: You pay taxes on your gross income NOT on your net worth. His adjusted gross income was $11.6 million.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/10/pf/taxes/warren-buffett-trump-taxes/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Prior to the debate I really felt that the chance of Trump winning was getting to the point that I was beginning to lose hope. Heading into the second debate, I was really nervous whether Trump can stay on strategy rather than react to attacks on his personality faults.

I still think he could have done a lot better answering the tax question, but maybe his strategy team has reasons not to get too complicated into the tax issues.

After last night, I believe that he at the very least came out even if not won. Many times during the debate, it was obvious that Hillary was hunting for answers she didn't have, drawing out her sentences and frequently asking people to just go to her website for fact checks. It is as if she was caught off guard by Trump's performance in contrast to the first debate.

Many analysts believe that he needs to have a clear win in this second debate in order to pull out ahead. I don't think we have that, so I am still worried. However, his performance does give me some hope towards the third debate.


Buffett has paid taxes since he was 13 and he has never used the carry forward loss provision in 72 years of tax filing. He paid close to $2Million in federal income taxes last year. he is under audit and says that he will release his taxes if Trump does BECAUSE there is no legal reason not to. Buffet was also donated close to #3Billion to charity last year.


Berkshire Hathaway is a public company, Trump Organization is not. You cannot really compare the two tax situations, not matter whose side you are trying to argue. If he paid $2M in federal tax last year, don't you think that's a bit low for someone worth $65B?


Hmmm - $65B in holdings generated $11M in income - or %0.00014%. Yeah, no tax planning there.
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