Why are all of the GOOD public schools only in the Expensive parts of town?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Van Ness Elementary School is a pretty good school, and it's not expensive to live in the Capitol Riverfront.

Please. It's a year old, IB for public housing, and nobody with children is going to live in condos for 8 years just to go to Jefferson.

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Anonymous wrote:Its funny how people on this site think $800k is affordable for a home....

It's not 800K. We paid $350K for one bedroom + den (practically a 2-bed) inbound for Horace Mann. It's a matter of choice. We traded space in favor of better education. Do your homework, there's plenty on non-fancy condos in the area, on Mass Ave, and one building on the south side of Cathedral Ave. and New Mexico. Rent rates in those buildings are not bad either.

Of course you share with AU students, which makes you wonder why investing in education is meant to be a good investment.

Can you point me to a similar listing please? I'm interested in such a 1BR + den for $350k! NP here.

Just now on the market, in bound for Horace Mann, and larger than ours (2 bedroom), for $349,000.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Washington-DC-20016/443344_zpid/66139_rid/38.939092,-77.076355,38.924687,-77.090088_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/

The Condo fees are over $1,000! How is that affordable? We own and our mortgage, utilities, taxes, and insurance come to around $2,300/mo. What a waste of money to dump into such high fees, even with the utilities included.

Yes and 20% down payment on this would be $1257 P&I and $1,000 coop fees = $2,257. Even if you add personal insurance of $600/year, your total housing debt + utilities would be $2307.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um, historic racism?

Um, read a book? This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with class. Those with means have always wanted to separate themselves from those without means.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, historic racism?

Um, read a book? This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with class. Those with means have always wanted to separate themselves from those without means.

Except in DC it's about both. Redlining barred people of color from buying homes in certain parts of the city to people of color, even if they had the means. The practice persisted into the 1970s.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, historic racism?

Um, read a book? This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with class. Those with means have always wanted to separate themselves from those without means.

Except in DC it's about both. Redlining barred people of color from buying homes in certain parts of the city to people of color, even if they had the means. The practice persisted into the 1970s.

And it affects everyone of every race. Because it's about money.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, historic racism?

Um, read a book? This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with class. Those with means have always wanted to separate themselves from those without means.

Except in DC it's about both. Redlining barred people of color from buying homes in certain parts of the city to people of color, even if they had the means. The practice persisted into the 1970s.

Many immigrants arrived after the 70s with zero money and they are doing well.

Stop using the past as an excuse for the present.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, historic racism?

Um, read a book? This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with class. Those with means have always wanted to separate themselves from those without means.

Except in DC it's about both. Redlining barred people of color from buying homes in certain parts of the city to people of color, even if they had the means. The practice persisted into the 1970s.

Many immigrants arrived after the 70s with zero money and they are doing well.

Stop using the past as an excuse for the present.

Until you post credible evidence/data that there aren't also racial differences among immigrants and how they're doing today with these issues, your point is moot. Immigrants do often do better than those here for generations, yet race is STILL a major factor in differences in both opportunities and outcomes. So in fact, it is BOTH race and class.

Stop pretending your fantasy thinking creates facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you looked at Shepard Park - or is it not hip enough?

This might not be an option for her. Homes in Shepherd Park start at $600,000 (and, that is no modern finishes/updates) to over $1.2 million.

[Anonymous]

"Why are all of the GOOD public schools only in the Expensive parts of town?"

For the same reason all the good restaurants, boutiques, and other amenities are in the expensive parts of town? Because that's where the money is?

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Anonymous wrote:Um, historic racism?

Um, read a book? This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with class. Those with means have always wanted to separate themselves from those without means.

Except in DC it's about both. Redlining barred people of color from buying homes in certain parts of the city to people of color, even if they had the means. The practice persisted into the 1970s.

Many immigrants arrived after the 70s with zero money and they are doing well.

Stop using the past as an excuse for the present.

Until you post credible evidence/data that there aren't also racial differences among immigrants and how they're doing today with these issues, your point is moot. Immigrants do often do better than those here for generations, yet race is STILL a major factor in differences in both opportunities and outcomes. So in fact, it is BOTH race and class.

Stop pretending your fantasy thinking creates facts.

This is hardly groundbreaking. Here's a piece from 1992. Google is your friend. (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1992-01-21/news/9201040362_1_indochinese-refugee-children-asian-refugee-academic-achievement)

"Some embarrassing questions must be asked about the children of the Southeast Asian boat people who now live in the United States.

Why are these refugee youngsters --most of whom reached America unable to speak English and with little but the clothes they were wearing -- succeeding so spectacularly in school?

If American schools are so inadequate, so far behind those in other industralized nations, how come they are doing such a great job of educating the Indochinese refugee children?

The answers point to serious problems not so much in American schools, but in American lifestyles, attitudes and family relationships."

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Immigrants weren't redlined.

I went to school with a ton of Hmong kids in the seventies. One of my classmates was the first Hmong woman to ever graduate from medical school. Comparing g their experience to the aa experience in this country is like comparing kumquats to lemons.

[Anonymous]

Also, in dc, I'm not sure where the bad part of town is... Because I'm looking at 700k houses in trinidad, as well as 800k houses in 16st heights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Immigrants weren't redlined.

I went to school with a ton of Hmong kids in the seventies. One of my classmates was the first Hmong woman to ever graduate from medical school. Comparing g their experience to the aa experience in this country is like comparing kumquats to lemons.

70s. not 50's. Excuse-mongering.

[Anonymous]

"Immigrant children who came to the U.S. before they were teens do better in academic achievement and school engagement than native-born children, according to a new study by Johns Hopkins University, and the advantages extend to adulthood. The study also found Hispanic immigrant children do as well as Asian children, provided they have similar socio-economic and family backgrounds."

http://nbclatino.com/2012/09/11/study-first-generation-immigrant-children-do-better-in-school-than-us-born-kids/

Redlining as an historic excuse doesn't explain the success of Hispanics in 2012.

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Only black families were red lined. And it persisted well into the 1970s in DC. That's really only a generation or so ago.