% of students from your nova hs admitted to UVA

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Yea, you would be satisfied with them admitting it. Right. Haters will be haters.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10% of the class to have a serious shot. Extended to top 15% if an unusual circumstance.

Students outside the top 20% don't bother applying

And yes, even if school systems say they don't rank, a hierarchy exsists

The numbers say 20-30%.

My dc just enrolled at UVA. The President Teresa sullivan said at convocation last evening that 90% of the class is in the top 10% of their high school class. Students come from 45 states and 100+ countries. The NoVa number of students is 100 less than it was for last year which is not a good trend for those applying from NoVa. Only two got in from his school and both enrolled.

Do you know why? It can't possibly be because NOVA students are less qualified than last year or because the number of NOVA students applying has reduced. So why?

affirmative action.

this time it is geographic in nature.

politically driven to give the hillbillies things they didn't earn (but will say they did by their own merit).

VA resident here who is perfectly fine with "affirmative action" that gives opportunities to teens statewide.

If you're so sure your kid is more qualified than the kids from "hillybilly" schools, why so bitter? Your kid is already ahead in the game.

the hillbillies should raise their hands and admit that they get in via geographic affirmative action then instead of pretending they get in via blind merit and say they don't use affirmative action like URMs.

if the hillbillies do that, then it is more palatable.

I have never had an opportunity to grill a hillbilly about his/her qualifications for UVA, but next time I see one I will ask. Hopefully he/she will 'fess up to his/her lack of merit.

WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10% of the class to have a serious shot. Extended to top 15% if an unusual circumstance.

Students outside the top 20% don't bother applying

And yes, even if school systems say they don't rank, a hierarchy exsists

The numbers say 20-30%.

My dc just enrolled at UVA. The President Teresa sullivan said at convocation last evening that 90% of the class is in the top 10% of their high school class. Students come from 45 states and 100+ countries. The NoVa number of students is 100 less than it was for last year which is not a good trend for those applying from NoVa. Only two got in from his school and both enrolled.

Do you know why? It can't possibly be because NOVA students are less qualified than last year or because the number of NOVA students applying has reduced. So why?

affirmative action.

this time it is geographic in nature.

politically driven to give the hillbillies things they didn't earn (but will say they did by their own merit).

VA resident here who is perfectly fine with "affirmative action" that gives opportunities to teens statewide.

If you're so sure your kid is more qualified than the kids from "hillybilly" schools, why so bitter? Your kid is already ahead in the game.

the hillbillies should raise their hands and admit that they get in via geographic affirmative action then instead of pretending they get in via blind merit and say they don't use affirmative action like URMs.

if the hillbillies do that, then it is more palatable.

I have never had an opportunity to grill a hillbilly about his/her qualifications for UVA, but next time I see one I will ask. Hopefully he/she will 'fess up to his/her lack of merit.

WTF?

The Hillbilly argument is B.S. Only two students total got in from Nelson County (one of the poorest counties in the state). Zero from Bath and other neighboring counties. 677 from FAirfax. The reason for fewer slots to NOVA is due to an expansion of out-of-state applicants (45 states) and international students from India and China. Here are the stats. Go to "by the county" and you will see that very few "hillbillies" from the poorer and outlying counties get in to UVA. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/

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Anonymous wrote:The spike in appications over the past few years is unbelievable.

Applications, yes- number of students going to college? No. So the yield rates have also dropped, which make it about the same difficulty to get in.

Nope. A review of the data indicates that it is now more difficult to be admitted.

Over what span of time? And which schools? More people are going to college than ever before.

The thread is about UVa....

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10% of the class to have a serious shot. Extended to top 15% if an unusual circumstance.

Students outside the top 20% don't bother applying

And yes, even if school systems say they don't rank, a hierarchy exsists

The numbers say 20-30%.

My dc just enrolled at UVA. The President Teresa sullivan said at convocation last evening that 90% of the class is in the top 10% of their high school class. Students come from 45 states and 100+ countries. The NoVa number of students is 100 less than it was for last year which is not a good trend for those applying from NoVa. Only two got in from his school and both enrolled.

Do you know why? It can't possibly be because NOVA students are less qualified than last year or because the number of NOVA students applying has reduced. So why?

affirmative action.

this time it is geographic in nature.

politically driven to give the hillbillies things they didn't earn (but will say they did by their own merit).

VA resident here who is perfectly fine with "affirmative action" that gives opportunities to teens statewide.

If you're so sure your kid is more qualified than the kids from "hillybilly" schools, why so bitter? Your kid is already ahead in the game.

the hillbillies should raise their hands and admit that they get in via geographic affirmative action then instead of pretending they get in via blind merit and say they don't use affirmative action like URMs.

if the hillbillies do that, then it is more palatable.

I have never had an opportunity to grill a hillbilly about his/her qualifications for UVA, but next time I see one I will ask. Hopefully he/she will 'fess up to his/her lack of merit.

WTF?

The Hillbilly argument is B.S. Only two students total got in from Nelson County (one of the poorest counties in the state). Zero from Bath and other neighboring counties. 677 from FAirfax. The reason for fewer slots to NOVA is due to an expansion of out-of-state applicants (45 states) and international students from India and China. Here are the stats. Go to "by the county" and you will see that very few "hillbillies" from the poorer and outlying counties get in to UVA. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/

The critical mass comes from nova and its excellent high schools. Out of state students bring remarkably strong stats. International students willing to pay full freight for a credential help subsidize others.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hillbilly argument is B.S. Only two students total got in from Nelson County (one of the poorest counties in the state). Zero from Bath and other neighboring counties. 677 from FAirfax. The reason for fewer slots to NOVA is due to an expansion of out-of-state applicants (45 states) and international students from India and China. Here are the stats. Go to "by the county" and you will see that very few "hillbillies" from the poorer and outlying counties get in to UVA. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/

That's not even the number who got in, it's the number who actually decided to go to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10% of the class to have a serious shot. Extended to top 15% if an unusual circumstance.

Students outside the top 20% don't bother applying

And yes, even if school systems say they don't rank, a hierarchy exsists

The numbers say 20-30%.

My dc just enrolled at UVA. The President Teresa sullivan said at convocation last evening that 90% of the class is in the top 10% of their high school class. Students come from 45 states and 100+ countries. The NoVa number of students is 100 less than it was for last year which is not a good trend for those applying from NoVa. Only two got in from his school and both enrolled.

Do you know why? It can't possibly be because NOVA students are less qualified than last year or because the number of NOVA students applying has reduced. So why?

affirmative action.

this time it is geographic in nature.

politically driven to give the hillbillies things they didn't earn (but will say they did by their own merit).

VA resident here who is perfectly fine with "affirmative action" that gives opportunities to teens statewide.

If you're so sure your kid is more qualified than the kids from "hillybilly" schools, why so bitter? Your kid is already ahead in the game.

the hillbillies should raise their hands and admit that they get in via geographic affirmative action then instead of pretending they get in via blind merit and say they don't use affirmative action like URMs.

if the hillbillies do that, then it is more palatable.

I have never had an opportunity to grill a hillbilly about his/her qualifications for UVA, but next time I see one I will ask. Hopefully he/she will 'fess up to his/her lack of merit.

WTF?

The Hillbilly argument is B.S. Only two students total got in from Nelson County (one of the poorest counties in the state). Zero from Bath and other neighboring counties. 677 from FAirfax. The reason for fewer slots to NOVA is due to an expansion of out-of-state applicants (45 states) and international students from India and China. Here are the stats. Go to "by the county" and you will see that very few "hillbillies" from the poorer and outlying counties get in to UVA. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/

The critical mass comes from nova and its excellent high schools. Out of state students bring remarkably strong stats. International students willing to pay full freight for a credential help subsidize others.

I don't understand how the increase in applicants from out of state impacts the number of students accepted from Nova. The state mandates that only 1/3 of the students can be from out of state. So the number who apply from out of state is irrelevant to in state students. Just means that competition increases for out of state applicants if there are more of them.

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The graphs in that article show that the out of state vs. in state students has stayed the same for decades. So, it's not the case that more kids from other countries or other states are reducing the number admitted from No. Va.

I think the real answer is that there are just so many more qualified, college bound kids in this state than there used to be. The number of spots available at state institutions is not keeping pace with the increase in demand for high quality state universities.

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Of course, UVA could have figures out the rampant grade inflation in NOVA doesn't do the students any favors once they are in college.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10% of the class to have a serious shot. Extended to top 15% if an unusual circumstance.

Students outside the top 20% don't bother applying

And yes, even if school systems say they don't rank, a hierarchy exsists

The numbers say 20-30%.

My dc just enrolled at UVA. The President Teresa sullivan said at convocation last evening that 90% of the class is in the top 10% of their high school class. Students come from 45 states and 100+ countries. The NoVa number of students is 100 less than it was for last year which is not a good trend for those applying from NoVa. Only two got in from his school and both enrolled.

Do you know why? It can't possibly be because NOVA students are less qualified than last year or because the number of NOVA students applying has reduced. So why?

affirmative action.

this time it is geographic in nature.

politically driven to give the hillbillies things they didn't earn (but will say they did by their own merit).

VA resident here who is perfectly fine with "affirmative action" that gives opportunities to teens statewide.

If you're so sure your kid is more qualified than the kids from "hillybilly" schools, why so bitter? Your kid is already ahead in the game.

the hillbillies should raise their hands and admit that they get in via geographic affirmative action then instead of pretending they get in via blind merit and say they don't use affirmative action like URMs.

if the hillbillies do that, then it is more palatable.

I have never had an opportunity to grill a hillbilly about his/her qualifications for UVA, but next time I see one I will ask. Hopefully he/she will 'fess up to his/her lack of merit.

WTF?

The Hillbilly argument is B.S. Only two students total got in from Nelson County (one of the poorest counties in the state). Zero from Bath and other neighboring counties. 677 from FAirfax. The reason for fewer slots to NOVA is due to an expansion of out-of-state applicants (45 states) and international students from India and China. Here are the stats. Go to "by the county" and you will see that very few "hillbillies" from the poorer and outlying counties get in to UVA. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/

The critical mass comes from nova and its excellent high schools. Out of state students bring remarkably strong stats. International students willing to pay full freight for a credential help subsidize others.

I don't understand how the increase in applicants from out of state impacts the number of students accepted from Nova. The state mandates that only 1/3 of the students can be from out of state. So the number who apply from out of state is irrelevant to in state students. Just means that competition increases for out of state applicants if there are more of them.

The pool of instate applicants has become unbelievably more competitive since, say, the early 1990s.

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Anonymous wrote:The graphs in that article show that the out of state vs. in state students has stayed the same for decades. So, it's not the case that more kids from other countries or other states are reducing the number admitted from No. Va.

I think the real answer is that there are just so many more qualified, college bound kids in this state than there used to be. The number of spots available at state institutions is not keeping pace with the increase in demand for high quality state universities.

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I think that may be true in some other states. But Virginia has many other quality options and several that have risen in the past few decades. Virginia is keeping up. Plus the CC to University program doesn't have caps if a degree from UVA is the goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, UVA could have figures out the rampant grade inflation in NOVA doesn't do the students any favors once they are in college.

I don't know about grade inflation, but every one of my elder DC's friends (and DC) commented on how well prepared they were for college. They go all over the state and nation.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, UVA could have figures out the rampant grade inflation in NOVA doesn't do the students any favors once they are in college.

I don't know about grade inflation, but every one of my elder DC's friends (and DC) commented on how well prepared they were for college. They go all over the state and nation.

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My kids and their friends have all graduated from NOVA high schools and gone to college around the country. They've also said how well their high schools prepared them for college. UVA and any other universities would be lucky to have NOVA graduates.

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Yet UVA doesn't seem to feel that way. That's the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet UVA doesn't seem to feel that way. That's the issue.

Yes, I know (I'm the PP). It's a real problem that they aren't accepting so many qualified kids, simply because they're from NOVA.