Zika crisis: each child with microencephaly in US to cost $10 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Six pages and no discussion about how Congress went on a two-month vacation without passing a bill to fund Zika research and prevention?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/29/zika_bill_fails_because_of_planned_parenthood_confederate_flag_provisions.html

Poison pill provision, right?

Red states. Last year they were worried about ebola. This year it's ISIS. And yet they screw the pooch on Zika, which is going to affect them first and hardest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just have abortions. No use spending the money.

The question isn't what you think other people should do. It's whether you think families or the govt should decide, and whether families or the govt pays.

Government pays for abortion.
You chose not to abort, raise the kid on your own dime.
Done.

Be grateful you do not have a SN child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just have abortions. No use spending the money.

The question isn't what you think other people should do. It's whether you think families or the govt should decide, and whether families or the govt pays.

Government pays for abortion.
You chose not to abort, raise the kid on your own dime.
Done.

Be grateful you do not have a SN child.

The government should not be involved in trying to incentivize a decision one way or the other. It's a very personal decision, involving deep moral and religious beliefs as well as individual family circumstances.

I believe it would be wrong for Pence to try and legislate this -- as he has repeatedly demonstrated he will do. First with the ridiculous law in Indiana, then with his announcement that he plans to overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think he even gives a second thought to how much it would cost families and whether it's right for the government to impose that burden on them unilaterally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just have abortions. No use spending the money.

The question isn't what you think other people should do. It's whether you think families or the govt should decide, and whether families or the govt pays.

Government pays for abortion.
You chose not to abort, raise the kid on your own dime.
Done.

No government agency, whether state or federal, pays for abortion in the U.S. Please see the Hyde and Helms amendments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just have abortions. No use spending the money.

The question isn't what you think other people should do. It's whether you think families or the govt should decide, and whether families or the govt pays.

Families to pay?
Every special needs child does not get to be born to a family with boatloads of money

Most special needs and disabilities are not present on ultrasound scans.

There is a Zika test, though. CDC will mandate that all pregnant women in affected areas receive it.

It's not a very accurate test. I'm pregnant so it's not like I haven't been following this.

[Anonymous]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/07/marco_rubio_says_pregnant_women_with_zika_shouldn_t_be_allowed_to_have_abortion.html

Here's Marco Rubio's very thoughtful take on the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/07/marco_rubio_says_pregnant_women_with_zika_shouldn_t_be_allowed_to_have_abortion.html

Here's Marco Rubio's very thoughtful take on the problem.

Was just coming here to post about Rubio. WTF, Marco!??!?! That guy has to go away.

Marco Rubio said he doesn't believe that a Zika-infected woman has a right to an abortion, even if the growing fetus is expected to be born with a severe birth defect like microcephaly. "It’s a difficult question and a hard one...But if I’m going to err, I’m going to err on the side of life," he said. (Politico's Marc Caputo)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/07/marco_rubio_says_pregnant_women_with_zika_shouldn_t_be_allowed_to_have_abortion.html

Here's Marco Rubio's very thoughtful take on the problem.

Was just coming here to post about Rubio. WTF, Marco!??!?! That guy has to go away.

Marco Rubio said he doesn't believe that a Zika-infected woman has a right to an abortion, even if the growing fetus is expected to be born with a severe birth defect like microcephaly. "It’s a difficult question and a hard one...But if I’m going to err, I’m going to err on the side of life," he said. (Politico's Marc Caputo)

I'm going to err on the side of saying that you've never been pregnant, never carried a child, never had other people make decisions about your body. So F off.

[Anonymous]

OP, nobody is going to pay. I see what you're trying to do and I agree with you, but the answer is the same as "who is going to pay for all the kids with brain damage from lead poisoning?" that's a huge problem, apparently a growing one given our reluctance to overhaul the water delivery infrastructure, and nobody is "going to pay" for it because the path of least resistance is to do nothing and let the problem develop until we're not talking about replacing water pipes but about incarcerating the violent and finding jobs to keep the less intelligent busy. I have a SN kid and nobody is "paying" for my kid's care. It's being paid for in the reduction of options that having to pay for his care gives the rest of our family. So this is less about "who is going to pay" and more about opportunity cost. What is lost by forcing women to have Zika babies that they might choose to avoid if they could?

[Anonymous]

To a Republican, babies are a gift from God and a blessing until they are born. A that moment, they become your own damn fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/07/marco_rubio_says_pregnant_women_with_zika_shouldn_t_be_allowed_to_have_abortion.html

Here's Marco Rubio's very thoughtful take on the problem.

Was just coming here to post about Rubio. WTF, Marco!??!?! That guy has to go away.

Marco Rubio said he doesn't believe that a Zika-infected woman has a right to an abortion, even if the growing fetus is expected to be born with a severe birth defect like microcephaly. "It’s a difficult question and a hard one...But if I’m going to err, I’m going to err on the side of life," he said. (Politico's Marc Caputo)

I'm going to err on the side of saying that you've never been pregnant, never carried a child, never had other people make decisions about your body. So F off.

I don't think you read me (who posted the Slate article) or PP very well. I am pregnant right now and another anti-choice goober functionally saying women should be forced to carry a microcephalic pregnancy to term? That is f***** up. Way up.

[Anonymous]

Seems like Walker and Rubio are trying hard to make this a lot worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, nobody is going to pay. I see what you're trying to do and I agree with you, but the answer is the same as "who is going to pay for all the kids with brain damage from lead poisoning?" that's a huge problem, apparently a growing one given our reluctance to overhaul the water delivery infrastructure, and nobody is "going to pay" for it because the path of least resistance is to do nothing and let the problem develop until we're not talking about replacing water pipes but about incarcerating the violent and finding jobs to keep the less intelligent busy. I have a SN kid and nobody is "paying" for my kid's care. It's being paid for in the reduction of options that having to pay for his care gives the rest of our family. So this is less about "who is going to pay" and more about opportunity cost. What is lost by forcing women to have Zika babies that they might choose to avoid if they could?

+1, we've spent more than I can even keep track of on private therapies that the government refuses to provide. No one is paying for our child's SN but us.