Let's talk about the lower performing schools in FFX

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Anonymous wrote:FFX County Schools allowing undocumented ESOL kids in the school system is what brought "down" the county schools, not race.

That darn Supreme Court and their decision; just gets in the way all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when Fairfax county was almost entirely middle class. All of this added multi family housing has really ruined the county. So much poverty. It will never be the school system it once was.

What you meant to say is you miss when Fairfax was all white with a few token brown people. Just admit it.

Not PP but I would venture to say that "brown people" are a minority in many FFX County, not much higher percentage wise than white. The above school referenced (Parklawn) actually has far more other races (Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern) than black or white. FFX County Schools allowing undocumented ESOL kids in the school system is what brought "down" the county schools, not race.

regardless, they're not white, and that's what PP meant.

No I didn't, you simpleton. Growing up in ffx it was very diverse. So much so, college was a culture shock for me. My instate university was very white. No, I miss the days when the county didn't have so many apartments. The Supreme Court has nothing to do with it. We built housing for poor people, and they came.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when Fairfax county was almost entirely middle class. All of this added multi family housing has really ruined the county. So much poverty. It will never be the school system it once was.

What you meant to say is you miss when Fairfax was all white with a few token brown people. Just admit it.

Not PP but I would venture to say that "brown people" are a minority in many FFX County, not much higher percentage wise than white. The above school referenced (Parklawn) actually has far more other races (Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern) than black or white. FFX County Schools allowing undocumented ESOL kids in the school system is what brought "down" the county schools, not race.

regardless, they're not white, and that's what PP meant.

No I didn't, you simpleton. Growing up in ffx it was very diverse. So much so, college was a culture shock for me. My instate university was very white. No, I miss the days when the county didn't have so many apartments. The Supreme Court has nothing to do with it. We built housing for poor people, and they came.

Curse those poor brown people try to make a better life for themselves why can't Fairfax stay lily white?

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Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when Fairfax county was almost entirely middle class. All of this added multi family housing has really ruined the county. So much poverty. It will never be the school system it once was.

What you meant to say is you miss when Fairfax was all white with a few token brown people. Just admit it.

Not PP but I would venture to say that "brown people" are a minority in many FFX County, not much higher percentage wise than white. The above school referenced (Parklawn) actually has far more other races (Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern) than black or white. FFX County Schools allowing undocumented ESOL kids in the school system is what brought "down" the county schools, not race.

regardless, they're not white, and that's what PP meant.

No I didn't, you simpleton. Growing up in ffx it was very diverse. So much so, college was a culture shock for me. My instate university was very white. No, I miss the days when the county didn't have so many apartments. The Supreme Court has nothing to do with it. We built housing for poor people, and they came.

Curse those poor brown people try to make a better life for themselves why can't Fairfax stay lily white?

Yep, someone sounds like an elitist...

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. 2 to W&M and 7 to UVA-- that's sobering.

It's hard to say whether it's sobering or not. There are other high schools that routinely send over a dozen grads to W&M and over 30 to U. Va. Clearly Edison isn't attracting as many top-achieving kids as other schools - we all knew that already - but it still leaves open the question whether a particular child does any better (greater chance of admission with the same stats) or worse (unlikely to end up with as good stats as students elsewhere) at Edison than at other schools.

Edison is a lot smaller than most of the other high schools in the county - according to this PDF http://www.fcps.edu/it/studentreporting/historical/pdfs/Ethnicity_Race_Gender/2015-16%20EthnicRaceGenderReport.pdf they had 1,934 students in 2015-2016. The only smaller schools were Falls Church and Lee (and TJ). Proportionally they still send fewer than the other top HS to W&M and UVA but you can't directly compare their numbers to the bigger schools like Lake Braddock.

Looks like your chances to go would be high then! UVA is only going to take but so many kids from 1 HS. Also, maybe kids got in but couldn't afford it. Edison is not in a very high socioeconomic area. This would not sway me for choosing Edison for my child.

nope

"The one statistic that governs our process is that two-thirds of the students at UVa must have Virginia residency. One-third may come from out-of-state (commonly referred to as OOS). Beyond that, there are no restrictions on how many students we can take from a school, town, county, or region."

http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2013/09/uva-admission-quotas-for-northern.html

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Anonymous wrote:FFX County Schools allowing undocumented ESOL kids in the school system is what brought "down" the county schools, not race.

That darn Supreme Court and their decision; just gets in the way all the time.

Until it's revisted there is a very stark differences in schools you either have a bunch of low performing High ESOL FARMS or really expensive high SES.

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Yup North vs South Arlington Fairfax Style the sorting has commenced

Fairfax really screwed over Annandlae one of the last diverse high performing schools. Now its definently in the lower tier

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Anonymous wrote:What is your budget and where do you need to commute? We live in the Woodson pyramid (between little River and braddock) and there are houses in the 500k range that are close to major roads to DC.

600K max and we want a single family home. I work in Old Town and DH works across the river in Maryland. We don't want to live in PG county, so we are looking for places along the beltway. Hence the Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, Annadale, Falls Church questions.

We are renting right now and have considered the West of the beltway neighborhoods, but in terms of getting on the beltway, we can't go too far west before running into serious commute issues.

For 600K i would look at marshall high pyramid. If you only have 400k i would look at the above options you listed.

SFHs in Marshall HS district for $600K are crap.

Particularly if you're a huge, materialistic snob who gets your self worth from the size of your home.

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Anonymous wrote:We are in Kingstowne zoned for Twain/Edison, DS attends AAP at Springfield Estates. I'm happy with SEES and have heard positive things about Twain from neighbors, friends, and AAP parents.

I've had relatives attend Edison and they are solidly in the middle - attended good state schools like JMU. I graduated from another local district and attended UVA.

I think kids who are in a strong cohort with engaged, supportive parents tend to do well anywhere. That being said, we will consider all our options once DS is closer to HS.

Currently I'm leaning to having him attend Hayfield instead for AP classes. Then again, there's lots of chatter about low performance concerns there because of the various Rt. 1 neighborhoods that are zoned for Hayfield.

You sound way to sane to be on DCUM. Most parents commenting here are convinced that high SAT averages will somehow raise their kids' grades. So divorced from reality.

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Anonymous wrote:What is your budget and where do you need to commute? We live in the Woodson pyramid (between little River and braddock) and there are houses in the 500k range that are close to major roads to DC.

600K max and we want a single family home. I work in Old Town and DH works across the river in Maryland. We don't want to live in PG county, so we are looking for places along the beltway. Hence the Edison, West Potomac, Hayfield, Annadale, Falls Church questions.

We are renting right now and have considered the West of the beltway neighborhoods, but in terms of getting on the beltway, we can't go too far west before running into serious commute issues.

For 600K i would look at marshall high pyramid. If you only have 400k i would look at the above options you listed.

SFHs in Marshall HS district for $600K are crap.

Really these look ok to me, comparable to the homes in the above areas but with usable schools.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/2006-Dexter-Dr-22043/home/9470876
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Vienna/2649-Bowling-Green-Dr-22180/home/9540791

"Usable schools"? OMG. When did Marshall people turn into such poseurs?

Agreed. And I'm a Marshall parent. Lots, lots more money coming into the area and with it these elitist attitudes, unfortunately. I get what PP means by liking Fairfax County when it was more middle class. There continues to be a lot of ethnic diversity, but the HS kids who would never deign to get a summer job because it might be beneath them, now far outnumber everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Yup North vs South Arlington Fairfax Style the sorting has commenced

Fairfax really screwed over Annandlae one of the last diverse high performing schools. Now its definently in the lower tier

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Although there seems to be some consideration to revisit the boundary change.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when Fairfax county was almost entirely middle class. All of this added multi family housing has really ruined the county. So much poverty. It will never be the school system it once was.

What you meant to say is you miss when Fairfax was all white with a few token brown people. Just admit it.

Not PP but I would venture to say that "brown people" are a minority in many FFX County, not much higher percentage wise than white. The above school referenced (Parklawn) actually has far more other races (Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern) than black or white. FFX County Schools allowing undocumented ESOL kids in the school system is what brought "down" the county schools, not race.

regardless, they're not white, and that's what PP meant.

No I didn't, you simpleton. Growing up in ffx it was very diverse. So much so, college was a culture shock for me. My instate university was very white. No, I miss the days when the county didn't have so many apartments. The Supreme Court has nothing to do with it. We built housing for poor people, and they came.

Curse those poor brown people try to make a better life for themselves why can't Fairfax stay lily white?

Yep, someone sounds like an elitist...

Keep ignoring reality and keep watching everybody voting with their feet. You'll find your school isn't diverse at all. Just poor.

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Anonymous wrote:Yup North vs South Arlington Fairfax Style the sorting has commenced

Fairfax really screwed over Annandlae one of the last diverse high performing schools. Now its definently in the lower tier

+1

Although there seems to be some consideration to revisit the boundary change.

But the higher income neighborhoods that were moved out of Annandale to other high schools would now fight against going back to Annandale. Test scores have since gone down at Annandale, and sports teams are now less competitive. (Those same neighborhoods had fought to remain with Annandale, and the former principal wrote a letter in support of the remain campaign warning that middle class support would wane after those neighborhoods left Annandale)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup North vs South Arlington Fairfax Style the sorting has commenced

Fairfax really screwed over Annandlae one of the last diverse high performing schools. Now its definently in the lower tier

+1

Although there seems to be some consideration to revisit the boundary change.

But the higher income neighborhoods that were moved out of Annandale to other high schools would now fight against going back to Annandale. Test scores have since gone down at Annandale, and sports teams are now less competitive. (Those same neighborhoods had fought to remain with Annandale, and the former principal wrote a letter in support of the remain campaign warning that middle class support would wane after those neighborhoods left Annandale)

It's disgraceful what happened over there. It's was a fine school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup North vs South Arlington Fairfax Style the sorting has commenced

Fairfax really screwed over Annandlae one of the last diverse high performing schools. Now its definently in the lower tier

+1

Although there seems to be some consideration to revisit the boundary change.

But the higher income neighborhoods that were moved out of Annandale to other high schools would now fight against going back to Annandale. Test scores have since gone down at Annandale, and sports teams are now less competitive. (Those same neighborhoods had fought to remain with Annandale, and the former principal wrote a letter in support of the remain campaign warning that middle class support would wane after those neighborhoods left Annandale)

It's disgraceful what happened over there. It's was a fine school.

Annandale and the Mason District have been betrayed by FFX county. Things are starting to switch around a bit, but the citizens as a whole here feel forgotten.