Mary Cheh, homeless shelters and Stoddert

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Anonymous wrote:If this was really just about school overcrowding, it seems like the problem could be easily solved by splitting the students among Stoddert, Janney and Hyde (keeping sibs together of course). families could get to Janney or Hyde via the Wisc Ave buses. Between three schools and the fact that all kids won't be the same age, it seems that schools could absorb this. After all, they have to absorb new buildings that are built in their district.

But something tells me it isn't just about school overcrowding...

Sorry, but Janney is uber-full already. Other schools would a better fit in any case.

Oh don't worry Janney. You are getting your 10%. Just like the rest of us.

don't schools have a capacity limit set by a fire marshall?

Boundaries will have to shift to accommodate the at-risk kids.

+1 The Murch, Lafayette, Key, Hearst, Eaton, Stoddert parents are not going to be quiet if Janney is not required to take their 10%. No more special treatment for Janney. Parents at the other schools are now better organized because of the recent renovations and can mobilize quickly.

The reality is that only Eaton and Hearst have capacity to take the 10% because they have a substantial number of OOB slots that they can play with. Stoddert has a few OOB but is not in the same category. Janney, Murch, Key and Lafayette are well over capacity, basically with all IB (Murch may have a small OOB lever to pull.) So the only way that these schools could deal with the 10% quota students is to re-district. Where are they going to be re-districted? To MoCo?!?

Nice try. Murch and Janney are overcrowded in part because their communities have refused to move their boundaries in any meaningful way. They can't have it both ways.

The Janney community at large was NEVER ASKED about redistricting. We as a community didn't get a vote. Most of us were completely in favor of redistricting but it's not like we were polled or that our opinion (as a whole) was taken into account.
There were less than 10 vocal families (quite a few of them homeowners WITHOUT KIDS AT THE SCHOOL) who escalated things to the very top and got the redistricting stopped.
There are some 500 families at the school. Less than 10 of them put an end to the redistricting. The rest of us were fine with it.

[Anonymous]

NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

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Anonymous wrote:So if we are paying for a hotel why don't we go ahead and pay for a school bus to pick up these kids OR have them enroll in closest school and mom can take classes or work? Then she would actually see mom cares about education/advancement.

I agree about the school bus, and think that it would probably not be that difficult to coordinate, though still possibly beyond the ability of DCPS. However, even if you have a bus full of kids in that motel who are going to school, they are not all going to the same school. They cannot be required to go to the same school, either. McKinney-Vento school provisions were in direct response to policies where children living in shelters were educated in special schools, usually associated with the shelter. These schools were not good - teachers not qualified to teach, mixed age classrooms by necessity because not enough kids for proper "grade levels", poor facilities, etc. It is better for children experiencing homelessness to be in school with other children, and it is better for children to have educational stability. This is why McKinney-Vento requires that children be allowed to attend their previous school or the school zoned for their temporary living situation.

[Anonymous]

http://dc.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3105

See minute 50, where Mary Cheh questions Kaya Henderson about the shelter's affect on Stoddert's capacity. Henderson responds that DCPS just learned about the shelter, too.

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Anonymous wrote:http://dc.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3105

See minute 50, where Mary Cheh questions Kaya Henderson about the shelter's affect on Stoddert's capacity. Henderson responds that DCPS just learned about the shelter, too.

I can't stand the way Kaya keeps saying crap like "you know..." and "Right?" Damn girl, take a speaking class.

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Anonymous wrote:http://dc.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3105

See minute 50, where Mary Cheh questions Kaya Henderson about the shelter's affect on Stoddert's capacity. Henderson responds that DCPS just learned about the shelter, too.

I can't stand the way Kaya keeps saying crap like "you know..." and "Right?" Damn girl, take a speaking class.

Well ... Grosso apparently is familiar "with the way [she] roll[s]." Shrug.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was really just about school overcrowding, it seems like the problem could be easily solved by splitting the students among Stoddert, Janney and Hyde (keeping sibs together of course). families could get to Janney or Hyde via the Wisc Ave buses. Between three schools and the fact that all kids won't be the same age, it seems that schools could absorb this. After all, they have to absorb new buildings that are built in their district.

But something tells me it isn't just about school overcrowding...

Sorry, but Janney is uber-full already. Other schools would a better fit in any case.

Oh don't worry Janney. You are getting your 10%. Just like the rest of us.

don't schools have a capacity limit set by a fire marshall?

Boundaries will have to shift to accommodate the at-risk kids.

+1 The Murch, Lafayette, Key, Hearst, Eaton, Stoddert parents are not going to be quiet if Janney is not required to take their 10%. No more special treatment for Janney. Parents at the other schools are now better organized because of the recent renovations and can mobilize quickly.

The reality is that only Eaton and Hearst have capacity to take the 10% because they have a substantial number of OOB slots that they can play with. Stoddert has a few OOB but is not in the same category. Janney, Murch, Key and Lafayette are well over capacity, basically with all IB (Murch may have a small OOB lever to pull.) So the only way that these schools could deal with the 10% quota students is to re-district. Where are they going to be re-districted? To MoCo?!?

Nice try. Murch and Janney are overcrowded in part because their communities have refused to move their boundaries in any meaningful way. They can't have it both ways.

The only spare capacity is to shift boundaries east and south to flip Hearst and Eaton to overwhelmingly IB schools. (They're not going to shift Upper NW boundaries across the Park.) But because Hearst and Eaton have long served a mostly OOB community, there would be pushback from others who feel that their interests/expectations are being squeezed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://dc.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3105

See minute 50, where Mary Cheh questions Kaya Henderson about the shelter's affect on Stoddert's capacity. Henderson responds that DCPS just learned about the shelter, too.

I can't stand the way Kaya keeps saying crap like "you know..." and "Right?" Damn girl, take a speaking class.

Well ... Grosso apparently is familiar "with the way [she] roll[s]." Shrug.

Perhaps she learned how to say it in Spanish, on her junket to Cuba.

The bottom line is that Kaya, just like her gal pal Bowser, is not exactly the sharpest pencil in the drawer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

So under what logic should DCPS deliberately take a bad situation and make it worse?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

So under what logic should DCPS deliberately take a bad situation and make it worse?!

The only real solution is a new NW elementary school.

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Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

So under what logic should DCPS deliberately take a bad situation and make it worse?!

The only real solution is a new NW elementary school.

don't hold your breath...

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Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

Not true at all.If boundaries shifted South to Hearst and Eaton, there would be plenty of IB space. The problem would be the push back from those zoned out of J,L,M and also from EOTP people who lose the OOB spots.
Was definitely discussed at the endless DME boundary review meetings but no one had the good sense or strength to use some logic and make it happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

Not true at all.If boundaries shifted South to Hearst and Eaton, there would be plenty of IB space. The problem would be the push back from those zoned out of J,L,M and also from EOTP people who lose the OOB spots.
Was definitely discussed at the endless DME boundary review meetings but no one had the good sense or strength to use some logic and make it happen.
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This wouldn't help Key and Stoddert, also very overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

Not true at all.If boundaries shifted South to Hearst and Eaton, there would be plenty of IB space. The problem would be the push back from those zoned out of J,L,M and also from EOTP people who lose the OOB spots.
Was definitely discussed at the endless DME boundary review meetings but no one had the good sense or strength to use some logic and make it happen.

Totally false. You don't know what you are talking about. Unless you want to put kindergarten kids in 5th grade or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NW WOTP ES schools will be overcrowded even if you completely redraw the boundaries and kick out OOB.

Not true at all.If boundaries shifted South to Hearst and Eaton, there would be plenty of IB space. The problem would be the push back from those zoned out of J,L,M and also from EOTP people who lose the OOB spots.
Was definitely discussed at the endless DME boundary review meetings but no one had the good sense or strength to use some logic and make it happen.
Hi

This wouldn't help Key and Stoddert, also very overcrowded.

How many OOBs are still at Stoddert? No one is willing to administer the tough medicine of aggressively managing out the OOB population through attrition.