I'm a Latin parent whose child graduated last year. Look at the picture of the class of 15 on the website. About three to five kids are sort of white. It did not even occur to me to wonder if these kids were, though now that you bring it up its statistical unlikely. You know nothing about Latin to think parents would wonder that. More likely they are wondering if the kids had a history of bullying, fighting, pranks etc or if this was a first and only. Knowing Latin I am confident the victim is well taken care of and his/her life is not over. To be kicked out in spring of senior year is a valid part of the discussion. Its just sad all around though I generally trust the administration. We on the outside just don't know what we don't know. |
The real victims are the students and teachers whose day was disrupted. |
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Believe me, there are people who get arrested at airports for making even what they think are "jokes" about bombs. |
WL parent. These kids weren't 11, they are seniors. Kids do make stupid mistakes and a love letter would not have been grounds for expulsion. The WL handbook explicitly says that threats of violence are grounds for expulsion. I don't want the's kids lives to be ruined but it is an important lesson that sometimes unintended consequences can be severe and truly hurt people. This email had the potential to do serious harm to the child whose email was used. I believe the punishment is correct and I also believe the school is helping the kids who were expelled in the transition. |
| PP I think part of the anguish is that Latin is small and like a family, some of the students have been there since fifth grade, whatever the handbook 'says' we all know it is a school that offers a lot of mentoring, counseling and 2nd chances. Some of our children have benefited from that. Expulsion spring of senior year almost feels like Amish shunning. Not only are you removed from your last leg of precollege, but also from a home of sorts, and from future links as an alumni. I think it's got to be pretty anguishing as mentioned for all around. I am just not sure what to make of it. |
Maybe I wasn't clear. I am a WL parent. I understand how the community is and that is part of why I chose the school for my kids. I think that's why I fully support the expulsion. All three kids incolved had been a part of the community for a long time. The two who sent the email treated the 3rd with so little respect. What if it had not been determined so quickly that the email was not real? What if the student whose email was used was thought to be guilty? I realize these are what ifs right now but could have been the real outcome of their actions. |
I agree. Actually, the handbook says suspension or expulsion, even though the school's email only mentions expulsion. My child graduated last year and we saw 'loose' following of the handbook over the years. Previously, a senior had a serious infraction and was suspended for the remainder of the year but still graduated from Latin. |
| Not a Latin Parent, but a parent of two good kids. And if one of them ever pulled something like this, I would expect them to be expelled. And if they were seniors (17-18) be very thankful that's they were not arrested. It's a post-911 world, and since the Paris attacks several school systems have shut down for just this type of threat. This should be a zero tolerance offense. |
I've been told by another parent that one of the boys had been accepted to Princeton on a full-ride. I wonder if the offer will be rescinded. Ugh, I am sorry for all the boys involved. I remember my prankster days and the pulling of the fire alarm. And yes, I understand it's a different world that our children are navigating through. |
If this is true, yes the admission offer will be pulled. |
| How about we stop calling this a "prank" and start calling it an example of pretty extreme racial/religious bullying that also involved making an illegal threat. |
| You don't know the definition of bullying. A one of is not bullying. It is a dumb prank. |
| My fear is Latin caved to PC optics. God I hope not. If these were Princeton bound students, they had probably worked their butts off at WL and were decent community members. If this is a first and only offense, I have a problem with this. |
A one-off may mean it's not technically "bullying" but it's harassment - it's not a prank. This example is more similar to committing a hate crime than it is to playing a "kids will be kids" prank. |
| It was an opportunistic one of prank unless these kids have a history of victimizing this child or others..sorry, tat is the generally accepted definition of bullying. |