What are DC's equivalents to NYC suburbs?

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Anonymous wrote:Former nothern NJ resident here. I wanted to love NOVA when we moved here -- the lure of lower taxes and good public colleges were two reasons. Alas, most of NOVA is just really ugly. It's as if the town and county planners didn't even consider smart growth or aesthetics at all. MOCO is only marginally better, TBH, but it's a step closer to looking like someone actually cared.

So damn true.

I really think NoVa just might be the ugliest suburban area in the United States. At least of what I've seen.

Go to many parts of LI or Northern NJ and then get back to me...

-Signed a former LI'er

I've seen plenty of them. NoVa takes the cake.

I don't see any criticism of NoVa as anything other than resentment of its position regionally. The greatest concentration of wealth in the region is in NoVa, NoVa has the most good public schools, and NoVa has the best shopping.

I know that doesn't sit well with people who wish DC was more like NYC or are saddened by the decline of Montgomery County, but it's just the way it is.

More wishful thinking. We've been over the numbers time and time again. At this point, Nova cannot compete with Montgomery County, nor with Northwest DC.

I get that NoVa resents being the butt of the joke on DCUM, or being bashed in terms of appearance- which I agree is unnecessary and rude. However, NoVa does not help things when it makes claims to grandiosity which are easy to contradict with cold hard data.

Your "cold hard data" consists of a few factoids that don't change the basic conclusions and only underscore the resentment felt towards NoVa. It's OK, we understand. We'd be crabby too if our best days were all behind us.

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Anonymous wrote:Former nothern NJ resident here. I wanted to love NOVA when we moved here -- the lure of lower taxes and good public colleges were two reasons. Alas, most of NOVA is just really ugly. It's as if the town and county planners didn't even consider smart growth or aesthetics at all. MOCO is only marginally better, TBH, but it's a step closer to looking like someone actually cared.

So damn true.

I really think NoVa just might be the ugliest suburban area in the United States. At least of what I've seen.

Go to many parts of LI or Northern NJ and then get back to me...

-Signed a former LI'er

I've seen plenty of them. NoVa takes the cake.

I don't see any criticism of NoVa as anything other than resentment of its position regionally. The greatest concentration of wealth in the region is in NoVa, NoVa has the most good public schools, and NoVa has the best shopping.

I know that doesn't sit well with people who wish DC was more like NYC or are saddened by the decline of Montgomery County, but it's just the way it is.

More wishful thinking. We've been over the numbers time and time again. At this point, Nova cannot compete with Montgomery County, nor with Northwest DC.

I get that NoVa resents being the butt of the joke on DCUM, or being bashed in terms of appearance- which I agree is unnecessary and rude. However, NoVa does not help things when it makes claims to grandiosity which are easy to contradict with cold hard data.

Your "cold hard data" consists of a few factoids that don't change the basic conclusions and only underscore the resentment felt towards NoVa. It's OK, we understand. We'd be crabby too if our best days were all behind us.

Denial of data only makes you look delusional and desperate.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting question op. I grew up in a close in suburb in westchester county. I think the palisades gives me the closest architectural and layout vibes to where I grew up and I chose to live in glover park because of how much it feels like the small town where I grew up (main difference being palisades style architecture). I also could drive to midtown in 20 min or be at Grand central station in a 23 minute ride so that's comparable to getting to the sights, etc in dc. Could not bear the thought of the VA suburbs (where I actually work) although I think the Maryland side seems more like small towns, which I like.

Yeah, Rockville Pike is so charming.

These threads are stupid.

Did they mention Rockville Pike?

Yeah that was a really strange response to my post. I will caveat by saying that I have very little experience with the Maryland suburbs. Maybe it's all Rockville pikeish. Please strike from the record my uninformed opinion re. the state of Maryland. I stand the the dc comparisons though. The biggest similarity that I see is how we interact with our neighbors. Growing up, I would open a window and yellow my best friend "hey Amy, ya wanna play?" Here in GP, because we are in attached houses, we have to go outside to address our neighbors, but that's an aspect I wants to recreate for my kids. And I'm happy to have done it!

It's not. I'm guessing it's someone who lives in Virginia who took offense. Rockville Pike is probably the worst part of the Maryland suburbs- it's kind of a strawman argument, because the presence of Rockville Pike does not negate the presence of Bethesda, Potomac, and Chevy Chase- which, I agree, seem much more like Westchester than VA. NW DC does as well.

Btw, what part of Westchester are you from? My mom grew up in Bronxville.

I'd have to say Veirs Mill is worse than the Pike.
That said, there are atrocities on both sides of the Potomac (Rt 1, for example). And honestly, the housing stock is about the same in all of the MD/VA suburbs (an overabundance of split levels and McMansions). So, what part of NY does THAT compare to?

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Anonymous wrote:Former nothern NJ resident here. I wanted to love NOVA when we moved here -- the lure of lower taxes and good public colleges were two reasons. Alas, most of NOVA is just really ugly. It's as if the town and county planners didn't even consider smart growth or aesthetics at all. MOCO is only marginally better, TBH, but it's a step closer to looking like someone actually cared.

So damn true.

I really think NoVa just might be the ugliest suburban area in the United States. At least of what I've seen.

Go to many parts of LI or Northern NJ and then get back to me...

-Signed a former LI'er

I've seen plenty of them. NoVa takes the cake.

I don't see any criticism of NoVa as anything other than resentment of its position regionally. The greatest concentration of wealth in the region is in NoVa, NoVa has the most good public schools, and NoVa has the best shopping.

I know that doesn't sit well with people who wish DC was more like NYC or are saddened by the decline of Montgomery County, but it's just the way it is.

Ouch - truthiness.

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Don't forget about the other side of the Hudson.

Rockland is like a quainter Gaithersburg or Sterling (basically just out of metro line area) But with less industry (very few Corp jobs). It has a falls-church sort of feel. Rockland was a refuge for b-list celebrities looking to hide out if they wanted lower key than Fancy parts of Westchester. When I was a kid, I used to baby sit for the kids of Semi-famous musicians, soap opera stars, pro-athletes. That was decades ago.

Bergen county is a step up - like N Bethesda or nicer parts of Reston/Fairfax. There is more industry and jobs. Nicer stores and houses.

Of course, Hoboken is Arlington (Roslyn-Ballston) with a heftier price tag.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget about the other side of the Hudson.

Rockland is like a quainter Gaithersburg or Sterling (basically just out of metro line area) But with less industry (very few Corp jobs). It has a falls-church sort of feel. Rockland was a refuge for b-list celebrities looking to hide out if they wanted lower key than Fancy parts of Westchester. When I was a kid, I used to baby sit for the kids of Semi-famous musicians, soap opera stars, pro-athletes. That was decades ago.

Bergen county is a step up - like N Bethesda or nicer parts of Reston/Fairfax. There is more industry and jobs. Nicer stores and houses.

Of course, Hoboken is Arlington (Roslyn-Ballston) with a heftier price tag.

Arlington is like Hoboken only because it is across the river from the city and attracts a younger demographic. Otherwise they have nothing in common, as Hoboken is older and grittier and has lots of Italians and Puerto Ricans. Arlington is just plastic and bland.