Dogs at the bus stop?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

It is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably around dogs. Therefore, the dog owner has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when their dog is around small children.

Just as it is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably in places where people drive, and therefore the driver has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when driving in places where there might be small children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

It is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably around dogs. Therefore, the dog owner has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when their dog is around small children.

Just as it is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably in places where people drive, and therefore the driver has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when driving in places where there might be small children.

Nope, wrong again. You're an entitled person. If you know that your small child can't behave, YOU have the responsibility to make sure that your child is acting in a safe manner. YOU need to be extra vigilant, NOT the world.

Now if a dog owner has a dog that doesn't behave, then the dog owner has the responsibility to be extra vigilant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

It is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably around dogs. Therefore, the dog owner has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when their dog is around small children.

Just as it is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably in places where people drive, and therefore the driver has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when driving in places where there might be small children.

Nope, wrong again. You're an entitled person. If you know that your small child can't behave, YOU have the responsibility to make sure that your child is acting in a safe manner. YOU need to be extra vigilant, NOT the world.

Now if a dog owner has a dog that doesn't behave, then the dog owner has the responsibility to be extra vigilant.

In what way am I entitled? I don't have any small children. I'm speaking from the perspective of a dog owner who drives (or a car driver who has a dog, whichever).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

It is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably around dogs. Therefore, the dog owner has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when their dog is around small children.

Just as it is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably in places where people drive, and therefore the driver has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when driving in places where there might be small children.

As a dog owner, I agree with the PP. I keep my dog far enough away from little kids/kids I don't know that the dog is not in grabbing range. And if I see a kid running toward my dog, I ask them to stop and angle my dog away from them. When kids ask to pet my dog, I tell them they have to ask their parent first. It's basic safety for all parties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

It is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably around dogs. Therefore, the dog owner has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when their dog is around small children.

Just as it is well-known that small children do not always behave well or predictably in places where people drive, and therefore the driver has a responsibility to be extra vigilant when driving in places where there might be small children.

As a dog owner, I agree with the PP. I keep my dog far enough away from little kids/kids I don't know that the dog is not in grabbing range. And if I see a kid running toward my dog, I ask them to stop and angle my dog away from them. When kids ask to pet my dog, I tell them they have to ask their parent first. It's basic safety for all parties.

+1 This is what we do too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had my younger child strapped in her stroller at the bus stop waiting for her kindergarten brother's bus to arrive. One of the large dogs got right up in my younger child's face before I could block it. I said something and the owner was polite but that is just NOT COOL.

Dogs get excitable around kids. Then they jump and it can freak kids out. And of course the owner knows he's being playful and says "He's just playing!" but a kid who doesn't know your dog or isn't around dogs a lot (because they're allergic and can't own them or stay at houses with them), doesn't know that. It isn't fair to make kids deal with a dog they don't know when they're just trying to wait for the bus.

It's a public space. If kids are going to be in a public space, its completely fair to ask them to learn to deal with other people and animals and things and events that occur in public spaces. If they don't learn to handle themselves over something that small, they are going to be neurotic messes their entire lives. Stop coddling these kids. It's not good for them.

First quoted poster here. Are you kidding me last poster??? And what if my child, strapped in her stroller, had grabbed at the dog?!? How do you think that would have gone???? I very rarely curse but......you're a fucking idiot. As well as entitled.

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

The hell? I own a dog. I love dogs. I also have a toddler, and we go over dog manners every. single. day. That doesn't mean she's trustworthy around dogs, because she is a toddler. If a dog stuck its head into her stroller and she grabbed the dog, that is on the dog owner. The whole point of strapping her into a stroller is to keep her away from the opportunity to misbehave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had my younger child strapped in her stroller at the bus stop waiting for her kindergarten brother's bus to arrive. One of the large dogs got right up in my younger child's face before I could block it. I said something and the owner was polite but that is just NOT COOL.

Dogs get excitable around kids. Then they jump and it can freak kids out. And of course the owner knows he's being playful and says "He's just playing!" but a kid who doesn't know your dog or isn't around dogs a lot (because they're allergic and can't own them or stay at houses with them), doesn't know that. It isn't fair to make kids deal with a dog they don't know when they're just trying to wait for the bus.

It's a public space. If kids are going to be in a public space, its completely fair to ask them to learn to deal with other people and animals and things and events that occur in public spaces. If they don't learn to handle themselves over something that small, they are going to be neurotic messes their entire lives. Stop coddling these kids. It's not good for them.

First quoted poster here. Are you kidding me last poster??? And what if my child, strapped in her stroller, had grabbed at the dog?!? How do you think that would have gone???? I very rarely curse but......you're a fucking idiot. As well as entitled.

If your kid, strapped in a stroller, grabs at a dog, then your kid is rude and disrespectful and you're a bad parent. The problem isn't the dog, the problem is you and your child.

What if your kid had ran into a busy street and got hit by a car? Would you blame the car driver? Never mind, you probably would.. because you know.. your child can do no wrong and you apparently don't believe in parenting or personal responsibility.

The world doesn't owe you anything.

The hell? I own a dog. I love dogs. I also have a toddler, and we go over dog manners every. single. day. That doesn't mean she's trustworthy around dogs, because she is a toddler. If a dog stuck its head into her stroller and she grabbed the dog, that is on the dog owner. The whole point of strapping her into a stroller is to keep her away from the opportunity to misbehave.

I am the one who posted about my young child strapped in her stroller. What the PP said is spot on. I have my child CONTAINED. If your dog gets up in her face, what do you think will happen?!? Potentially horrible consequences all around. I have to wonder if end of these posters even have kids. If you think my then one-year old has the wherewithal to not grab at something in her face you are setting everyone involved up for a potentially dangerous situation. How do you not get that? Just be a responsible dog owner and keep your dog back from the kids. I will be a responsible parent and keep my kids back from your dog. We will only approach your dog with your permission. This is not difficult!

[Anonymous]

I haven't read the whole thread, but yes, the road is public, but to all dog owners, please stop assuming that your dog is just so irresistibly cute that others -kids and adults- are ok with being sniffed. I DO teach my kids how to respect animals, and they know how to behave around dogs, but I can't tell you how many times dog owners allow their dogs to make skin contact with us and sniff us, only to then "wake up" and say "oh sorry,he/she is very gentle."

I don't care if your animal is gentle, I have the right to choose whether to be approached and sniffed by an animal. That's why our kids have to ask first for permission to touch your animal. The same should go for you. And yes, I love dogs, but I also have a healthy fear of animals I don't know.

[Anonymous]

After my child was bitten by a dog, I did a google search on how to avoid getting bitten by dogs and it really opened my eyes to the kind of damage some dogs have done to young children and how to avoid it in the first place. A big "no,no" is to NEVER allow your child to put his face close to a dog's mouth. I encourage all parents to learn about how to keep their children safe even if they aren't dog owners, especially since some dog owners on here think its perfectly fine to bring their dog to the bus stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After my child was bitten by a dog, I did a google search on how to avoid getting bitten by dogs and it really opened my eyes to the kind of damage some dogs have done to young children and how to avoid it in the first place. A big "no,no" is to NEVER allow your child to put his face close to a dog's mouth. I encourage all parents to learn about how to keep their children safe even if they aren't dog owners, especially since some dog owners on here think its perfectly fine to bring their dog to the bus stop.

I'm sorry your child was bitten. But…I have to ask. Was this truly not common sense/innate defensive parental wisdom for you????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is rude. The children and their parents have no choice but to go to the bus stop. So they are all there waiting for the bus. The dog walker is intruding into the situation because they are making a deliberate choice to walk their dog at that moment to a busy bus stop. Most of the time they think they are socializing their dogs. But really they are just intruding on the school bus kids and their parents. BTW, no one in our neighborhood does this -- too polite. They cross on the other side of the street.

+1000 It is a bus stop. Not a dog park.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is rude. The children and their parents have no choice but to go to the bus stop. So they are all there waiting for the bus. The dog walker is intruding into the situation because they are making a deliberate choice to walk their dog at that moment to a busy bus stop. Most of the time they think they are socializing their dogs. But really they are just intruding on the school bus kids and their parents. BTW, no one in our neighborhood does this -- too polite. They cross on the other side of the street.

+1000 It is a bus stop. Not a dog park.

It's a public place, not a backyard. If you don't like it, step away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After my child was bitten by a dog, I did a google search on how to avoid getting bitten by dogs and it really opened my eyes to the kind of damage some dogs have done to young children and how to avoid it in the first place. A big "no,no" is to NEVER allow your child to put his face close to a dog's mouth. I encourage all parents to learn about how to keep their children safe even if they aren't dog owners, especially since some dog owners on here think its perfectly fine to bring their dog to the bus stop.

I'm sorry your child was bitten. But…I have to ask. Was this truly not common sense/innate defensive parental wisdom for you????

Scroll back a few pages and you will read about what happened to my kid. NO, it was 120 percent the dog owners' fault. You are a joke!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is rude. The children and their parents have no choice but to go to the bus stop. So they are all there waiting for the bus. The dog walker is intruding into the situation because they are making a deliberate choice to walk their dog at that moment to a busy bus stop. Most of the time they think they are socializing their dogs. But really they are just intruding on the school bus kids and their parents. BTW, no one in our neighborhood does this -- too polite. They cross on the other side of the street.

+1000 It is a bus stop. Not a dog park.

Maybe the person is going to the dog park after their kid gets on the bus.

Regardless, it's public property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After my child was bitten by a dog, I did a google search on how to avoid getting bitten by dogs and it really opened my eyes to the kind of damage some dogs have done to young children and how to avoid it in the first place. A big "no,no" is to NEVER allow your child to put his face close to a dog's mouth. I encourage all parents to learn about how to keep their children safe even if they aren't dog owners, especially since some dog owners on here think its perfectly fine to bring their dog to the bus stop.

I'm sorry your child was bitten. But…I have to ask. Was this truly not common sense/innate defensive parental wisdom for you????

Scroll back a few pages and you will read about what happened to my kid. NO, it was 120 percent the dog owners' fault. You are a joke!

Uh huh.