Dogs at the bus stop?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

haha omg now children are running into the street and getting hit by cars if they see a dog. DOG OWNERS ARE MURDERERS

No, but if there were a conversation like this:

Person #1: My child got bitten by a dog when she was little, and she now has a dog phobia. We are working on it, but I wonder if you could keep your dog on a short leash at the bus stop when she is here waiting for the bus?
Person #2: No. My dog has a right to be here. Stop coddling your child.

I wouldn't have a very good opinion of Person #2.

Keeping a dog on a short leash is entirely different than banning dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You're a really irresponsible parent. Why would you let a stroller get that close to a dog that you don't know? Do you have a death wish for your toddler?

Why did the dog owner let the dog get that close to a child (in a stroller) the dog doesn't know? That's irresponsible of the dog owner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

haha omg now children are running into the street and getting hit by cars if they see a dog. DOG OWNERS ARE MURDERERS

No, but if there were a conversation like this:

Person #1: My child got bitten by a dog when she was little, and she now has a dog phobia. We are working on it, but I wonder if you could keep your dog on a short leash at the bus stop when she is here waiting for the bus?
Person #2: No. My dog has a right to be here. Stop coddling your child.

I wouldn't have a very good opinion of Person #2.

Keeping a dog on a short leash is entirely different than banning dogs.

I don't think that anybody has advocated banning dogs on this thread.

[Anonymous]

I have had 2 different kids at my home countless times in the last two years that were beyond petrified by my golden retrievers they begged me to keep them outside when the kids were over (ummm, no....this is the DOGS house) I declined and now those same two kids fight over who my dogs are going to sleep with when they stay over here...my kids complain because their friends now only want to play with the dogs instead of things they used to be more interested in.
To sum up, in order to get over fears you have to be faced with said fears in a safe way and embrace it. Then move on with your life.
The dogs are never going away...deal with it and get your kids to stop being so afraid. Or maybe out a leash on your mud so it doesn't run into the street...either way, really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have had 2 different kids at my home countless times in the last two years that were beyond petrified by my golden retrievers they begged me to keep them outside when the kids were over (ummm, no....this is the DOGS house) I declined and now those same two kids fight over who my dogs are going to sleep with when they stay over here...my kids complain because their friends now only want to play with the dogs instead of things they used to be more interested in.
To sum up, in order to get over fears you have to be faced with said fears in a safe way and embrace it. Then move on with your life.
The dogs are never going away...deal with it and get your kids to stop being so afraid. Or maybe out a leash on your mud so it doesn't run into the street...either way, really.

Or maybe put a leash on your kid so it doesn't run out into the street. Responsible dog owners do.

[Anonymous]

PP here (13:44)

Wow!, I did not call dogs Murders. As I said I like dogs, I grew up on a farm, we had no less than 3 at any given time. Yes, if a dog is rapidly approaching toward my daughter she will try and find any exit to get away, even the street, maybe Darwin at work.

A second Wow! on the therapy and being a shitty parent. Yes, she has spoken to a therapist about being afraid of dogs, however I was told some kids are terrified of animals, some of them out grow it and some don't.

I'm saddened by the fact that some of the dog owners posting here don't seem to have empathy for children just trying to get on the bus for school, not the dog park.

[Anonymous]

PP...Sorry, I meant to say murderers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

haha omg now children are running into the street and getting hit by cars if they see a dog. DOG OWNERS ARE MURDERERS

No, but if there were a conversation like this:

Person #1: My child got bitten by a dog when she was little, and she now has a dog phobia. We are working on it, but I wonder if you could keep your dog on a short leash at the bus stop when she is here waiting for the bus?
Person #2: No. My dog has a right to be here. Stop coddling your child.

I wouldn't have a very good opinion of Person #2.

Keeping a dog on a short leash is entirely different than banning dogs.

I don't think that anybody has advocated banning dogs on this thread.

I think PP meant banning dogs at the bus stop, something some people on this certainly do seem to be advocating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is terrified of dogs. She was bitten while sitting in her stroller when she was younger. I was pushing her near a playground in our neighborhood and the dog ran toward us (off leash) and just up and bit her before I could do anything. The owner apologized and said her dog didn't like strollers. I won't go through the whole story but the dog had a record.

My daughter is now in Kindergarten. We talk about dogs and how to behave around animals. We have two families that bring their large dogs to the bus stop on long leashes. I have asked that they shorten the leash and keep the dog from sniffing or licking her. I am in fear of her running into the street to avoid the dogs.

What I find strange/odd/entitled is that the dog owners position is that I "can" bring my dog to the bus stop no matter what, but the children (my daughter is not the only child afraid of the dogs) are required to be at the bus stop. It seems rude to me, and I love dogs. Another solution is the parent should stand off a ways with the dog...why are the children required to stand far away when they are supposed to be there.

I am not coddling her. She asked me to drive, I explain that we are going to the bus stop...we are going to have to handle being with the dogs. But, I feel sad when I see the fear in her eyes. I'm sure your child is afraid of something - bridges, bugs, the pool, the dark...think about how that might be how a child feels at your bus stop.

Sorry that happened to your child. My daughter was also bitten by a dog due to no fault of her own and it launched her deep fear of dogs that lasted several years -- and no, I did not coddle her whenever she would see a dog. I am pretty sure that the person accusing us of inciting our child's deep fear of dogs does not have any kids. I don't think he even owns a dog. He's just messing with us. I've seen his posts on other threads. They usually come in rapid-fire succession. A PP nailed the same pattern that I saw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^Its the same poster. Probably got his drink on. I can tell by the hasty one liners in a row. He does this on many threads. Poor guy should spend his time volunteering at children's hospital instead of wasting his time hating on them. Then again, they might not allow him to volunteer there.

This may blow your narrow mind(s), but people who have dogs do not necessarily hate kids. If this is what you think, you have a general comprehension problem of not only reading but how public spaces work. As far as I can see, no one has said they hate kids. That is false interpretation.

To which "hasty one liners" [sic] do you refer?

Of course not! But a poster on this thread on DCUM (who may or may not have kids and/or dogs) is definitely taking a "it's the child's obligation to accommodate my dog" position, which may not be anti-child but is certainly not pro-child.

I said that a couple of times and I am a 46 year old mother of two kids and a dog-owner. I strongly believe that it is not in a child's best interest to have a phobia catered to in this way. It is encouraging the kid to be neurotic. If your kid is so terrified of dogs that he/she cannot use the bus stop if a dog is present, then your kid needs therapy. If you don't get your child some therapy for his/her phobia, you are a shitty parent. If you refuse to get therapy and demand that other families change their perfectly normal, reasonable behavior, you are a demanding asshole who I will ignore. (If your kid is working on the issue, that's different.)

I'm not anti-child. I am anti-shitty parenting.

Well I'm anti-crappy dog parenting. My kids were bitten by dogs who had crappy owners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

haha omg now children are running into the street and getting hit by cars if they see a dog. DOG OWNERS ARE MURDERERS

No, but if there were a conversation like this:

Person #1: My child got bitten by a dog when she was little, and she now has a dog phobia. We are working on it, but I wonder if you could keep your dog on a short leash at the bus stop when she is here waiting for the bus?
Person #2: No. My dog has a right to be here. Stop coddling your child.

I wouldn't have a very good opinion of Person #2.

Keeping a dog on a short leash is entirely different than banning dogs.

I don't think that anybody has advocated banning dogs on this thread.

Read it again. Many people on this thread have suggested that dogs don't belong at bus stops. Almost all of the anti-dog people have said so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're a really irresponsible parent. Why would you let a stroller get that close to a dog that you don't know? Do you have a death wish for your toddler?

Why did the dog owner let the dog get that close to a child (in a stroller) the dog doesn't know? That's irresponsible of the dog owner.

Let's ban bad parents and bad dog owners at bus stops. Everybody else, including dogs on short leashes, good dog owners, and good parents, can stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^Its the same poster. Probably got his drink on. I can tell by the hasty one liners in a row. He does this on many threads. Poor guy should spend his time volunteering at children's hospital instead of wasting his time hating on them. Then again, they might not allow him to volunteer there.

This may blow your narrow mind(s), but people who have dogs do not necessarily hate kids. If this is what you think, you have a general comprehension problem of not only reading but how public spaces work. As far as I can see, no one has said they hate kids. That is false interpretation.

To which "hasty one liners" [sic] do you refer?

Of course not! But a poster on this thread on DCUM (who may or may not have kids and/or dogs) is definitely taking a "it's the child's obligation to accommodate my dog" position, which may not be anti-child but is certainly not pro-child.

I said that a couple of times and I am a 46 year old mother of two kids and a dog-owner. I strongly believe that it is not in a child's best interest to have a phobia catered to in this way. It is encouraging the kid to be neurotic. If your kid is so terrified of dogs that he/she cannot use the bus stop if a dog is present, then your kid needs therapy. If you don't get your child some therapy for his/her phobia, you are a shitty parent. If you refuse to get therapy and demand that other families change their perfectly normal, reasonable behavior, you are a demanding asshole who I will ignore. (If your kid is working on the issue, that's different.)

I'm not anti-child. I am anti-shitty parenting.

Well I'm anti-crappy dog parenting. My kids were bitten by dogs who had crappy owners.

IF you have multiple kids who were bitten by dogs, that's on you. You sound like a terrible parent. Once is an accident. More than once is you doing something wrong and blaming other people for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're a really irresponsible parent. Why would you let a stroller get that close to a dog that you don't know? Do you have a death wish for your toddler?

Why did the dog owner let the dog get that close to a child (in a stroller) the dog doesn't know? That's irresponsible of the dog owner.

Let's ban bad parents and bad dog owners at bus stops. Everybody else, including dogs on short leashes, good dog owners, and good parents, can stay.

There we go!

I can't imagine why a dog wouldn't be on a short leash around people they don't know, and don't know the dog..? And what in the world would be the issue with shortening the leash?

That seems weird to me. I've posted before.. my dog is on a short leash around other people and other dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're a really irresponsible parent. Why would you let a stroller get that close to a dog that you don't know? Do you have a death wish for your toddler?

Why did the dog owner let the dog get that close to a child (in a stroller) the dog doesn't know? That's irresponsible of the dog owner.

Let's ban bad parents and bad dog owners at bus stops. Everybody else, including dogs on short leashes, good dog owners, and good parents, can stay.

There we go!

I can't imagine why a dog wouldn't be on a short leash around people they don't know, and don't know the dog..? And what in the world would be the issue with shortening the leash?

That seems weird to me. I've posted before.. my dog is on a short leash around other people and other dogs.

Thank you for being responsible. It's the people who let their dog wander, sniff, jump up and entangle others waiting at the stop who are annoying to me.