First case of Ebola acquired in Europe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

My guess is they are likely not going to reveal that these people are even sick with it and will just quietly admit them to the hospital.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

This will be how hospitals get overrun very quickly. Not enough personal with the training and also time will become a factor so they will start taking shortcuts. It could get messy quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

My guess is they are likely not going to reveal that these people are even sick with it and will just quietly admit them to the hospital.

Do you think the doctors, nurses, and EMTs will all stay mum? Nobody will take a hospital selfie?

If any others in Dallas become sick, we will hear about it. Even if it's Anonymous who spreads the news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

This will be how hospitals get overrun very quickly. Not enough personal with the training and also time will become a factor so they will start taking shortcuts. It could get messy quickly.

Yes, this post sounds hysterical.

[Anonymous]

Just saw the Today Show. Obama basically said we are going to step up precautions by doing nothing. Taking more temperatures at airports will not keep Ebola out. This is a known fact. Once the Ebola carrier leaves the airport he has a continued incubation period and the virus can rear it's ugly head at anytime. The government can't claim ignorance when Ebola starts spreading. They are knowingly allowing Ebola to spread. They have no control once the Ebola carriers leave the airport. These people could infect anyone. Hope the government is ready for lawsuits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

This will be how hospitals get overrun very quickly. Not enough personal with the training and also time will become a factor so they will start taking shortcuts. It could get messy quickly.

Yes, this post sounds hysterical.

Not PP, but no it doesn't. Stop using that word. You clearly don't know what it means. This person disagrees with you. Fine. You do t have to gaslight her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

I think you need to look up hysteria.

Hmm, "a situation in which many people behave or react in an extreme or uncontrolled way because of fear, anger, etc".

Yep, sounds pretty accurate to me.

Poser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

I think you need to look up hysteria.

Hmm, "a situation in which many people behave or react in an extreme or uncontrolled way because of fear, anger, etc".

Yep, sounds pretty accurate to me.

Poser.

Do you actually think that typing a post that says we ought to be acting more aggressively to stop this, and that the information we're being given is incomplete is "reacting in an extreme or uncontrolled way"? Really? THat's disingenuous. Also, let's remember the history of the overuse of that word. It was generally applied to women who had any complaints or feelings that men found inconvenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

I think you need to look up hysteria.

Hmm, "a situation in which many people behave or react in an extreme or uncontrolled way because of fear, anger, etc".

Yep, sounds pretty accurate to me.

Poser.

Do you actually think that typing a post that says we ought to be acting more aggressively to stop this, and that the information we're being given is incomplete is "reacting in an extreme or uncontrolled way"? Really? THat's disingenuous. Also, let's remember the history of the overuse of that word. It was generally applied to women who had any complaints or feelings that men found inconvenient.

Indeed. The term has taken on sexist connotations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

This will be how hospitals get overrun very quickly. Not enough personal with the training and also time will become a factor so they will start taking shortcuts. It could get messy quickly.

Yes, this post sounds hysterical.

Yes, that fully-formed, cogent paragraph that you disagree with is clearly a sign of mental illness. Get the men in white coats, stat! I actually think that you're hysterical. Because you're wrong, and to you "wrong" and "overreacting" equals "hysterical".

[Anonymous]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain

A second nurse is being tested, and the first nurse's husband is now showing symptoms.

The suits used by the Spanish medical team did not meet WHO standards, nor did the hospital follow isolation protocol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain

A second nurse is being tested, and the first nurse's husband is now showing symptoms.

The suits used by the Spanish medical team did not meet WHO standards, nor did the hospital follow isolation protocol.

I wonder if the suits used in Texas met WHO standards. Obviously the ambulance paramedics didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

This will be how hospitals get overrun very quickly. Not enough personal with the training and also time will become a factor so they will start taking shortcuts. It could get messy quickly.

Yes, this post sounds hysterical.

Not PP, but no it doesn't. Stop using that word. You clearly don't know what it means. This person disagrees with you. Fine. You do t have to gaslight her.

You do realize you're talking to more than one person, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

This will be how hospitals get overrun very quickly. Not enough personal with the training and also time will become a factor so they will start taking shortcuts. It could get messy quickly.

Yes, this post sounds hysterical.

Not PP, but no it doesn't. Stop using that word. You clearly don't know what it means. This person disagrees with you. Fine. You do t have to gaslight her.

You do realize you're talking to more than one person, right?

Maybe. Or a sock puppeter. It doesn't matter anyway.

[Anonymous]

WHO is blaming the hospital for their lack of strict protocol and hazmat suits that were not up to grade. Well we know who we can blame when Ebola starts spreading here. They are only taking temperatures one time at the airports. This is the biggest protocol failure of all time. We all will know how Ebola started to spread. They have chance to prevent it now and the are intentionally not doing so.