First case of Ebola acquired in Europe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was probably in full hazmat gear yet still got the virus.

Probably. But maybe not. Several of the American doctors admitted to lapses.

God bless them. They were working with Ebola patients in full suits, and then working with non-diagnosed patients in the rest of the hospital without suits. Some of those patients had Ebola.

The nurse in Spain was only working with two known Ebola patients yet she still got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.

Don't be an ass. There is a difference between one incident and thousands of incidents.

Also, if you ban travel from Spain than PP can't go on vacation.

Not really sure what you're talking about. But anyway...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.

And Texas

To quote Colbert, "We need to divert the Keystone pipeline to the Mississippi and set that fucker on fire!"

Love it!

[Anonymous]

I don't belive the story. This can't be true.

The CDC has assured us that Ebola is difficult to contract. Furthermore, this person was a trained nurse who understands Ebola more than we do. Not only that, the nurse had the best protective gear available in Spain.

Only logical conclusion is the story is a lie; she could not possibly have Ebola.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't belive the story. This can't be true.

The CDC has assured us that Ebola is difficult to contract. Furthermore, this person was a trained nurse who understands Ebola more than we do. Not only that, the nurse had the best protective gear available in Spain.

Only logical conclusion is the story is a lie; she could not possibly have Ebola.

Nice try, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't belive the story. This can't be true.

The CDC has assured us that Ebola is difficult to contract. Furthermore, this person was a trained nurse who understands Ebola more than we do. Not only that, the nurse had the best protective gear available in Spain.

Only logical conclusion is the story is a lie; she could not possibly have Ebola.

Are the American doctors lying also? Rick Sacra, Kent Bradley, etc.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't belive the story. This can't be true.

The CDC has assured us that Ebola is difficult to contract. Furthermore, this person was a trained nurse who understands Ebola more than we do. Not only that, the nurse had the best protective gear available in Spain.

Only logical conclusion is the story is a lie; she could not possibly have Ebola.

Nice try, OP.

What?

Not OP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.

She got it from 2 people that had been in West Africa. I kept telling everyone this was going to spread like wild-fire and nobody believes me. I worked in the Reston "Ebola" lab in the 90s. Everything we learned in graduate school was that if this thing made it to US/Europe--given the close contacts and close proximity, long incubation times---it is going to be a nightmare. It was always the 'worst case' prediction in my virology courses. It used to burn out in the Congo because it would kill an entire village and it was miles and miles for anyone to walk to the next one so it would die out. The very thing that makes it so virulent and less of a threat in those areas for 'burning itself out' won't happen in our global population.

[Anonymous]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[Anonymous]

This is very troubling.

Health care workers wearing proper PPE and treating known Ebola patients are not supposed to be getting Ebola. This nursing assistant knew she was treating an Ebola patient -- he was flown in for treatment. She wore "two coveralls, two pairs of gloves, and gogles" when coming into contact with the patient.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/10/06/ciencia/1412611515_352524.html

A nursing assistant is the first case of Ebola infection in Europe. The health worker was part of the team that attended the missionary Manuel García Viejo, who died of Ebola on 26 September at the hospital Carlos III de Madrid (currently seconded to La Paz). She went to the hospital in Alcorcón when she felt fever. Both analyzes of the woman have tested positive, according to the Ministry of Health, whose cabinet crisis is met. Minister Ana Mato, in an extraordinary appearance before reporters, said that the protocol was "immediately activated to assist the patient and ensure the safety of health workers who treats and citizens." "We are working to verify the source of infection", said the minister.

This is the third case of Ebola fallecieron- treated in Spain-the first two and the first in which the patient is not repatriated from Africa or is treated in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid. The capital has already activated the protocol in September when a Brazilian disturbing symptoms presented in the Southern Bus Station.

The patient was admitted in the morning with a high fever. So the hospital activated the protocol before a possible case of Ebola and is isolated in the emergency room. A total of 60 health professionals who have had contact with the affected are under surveillance, according to a spokesman for the Union of Nursing.

She is a woman of 44, married and childless, of Galician origin but has been in the Carlos III over 15 years, according to other health center that consulted by this newspaper. These other colleagues who, as the affected, have been working in shifts to care of the missionaries, have expressed surprise at the spread as protective measures were "extreme". Health protection wearing two coveralls two pairs of gloves and goggles when treated patients.

[Anonymous]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/06/spanish-ebola-case-rapid-response-allay-western-fears?

The news that a nurse in a Spanish hospital has been infected with the Ebola virus by a patient she was helping to treat will greatly dismay those trying to reassure people in Europe and the US that they are safe from the disease.

This should not happen. In countries with sophisticated healthcare systems, such as Spain and the US, it ought to be almost impossible for a nurse to become infected once the hospital is aware that it has an Ebola patient.

In Dallas, ambulance workers were put at risk and are now effectively in quarantine because of ignorance: the hospital did not know that Thomas Duncan might be infected with the virus when they responded to the call to transport a sick man.

But in Spain there does not seem to be that excuse. The priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, whom the nurse was helping to treat at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital, had been repatriated from Liberia precisely because he had Ebola.

The virus is transmitted from one person to another through bodily fluids and the sicker the patient becomes, the higher the levels of virus in those fluids, which include blood, urine and vomit. The sick are more dangerous to people nursing them than to almost anybody else. But strict infection control procedures work in the challenging circumstances of west Africa most of the time and should not fail in Europe. Any nurse, doctor or anyone else who has contact with a patient must be in a protective suit, complete with gloves and face mask. The patient will be in isolation and strict hygiene and sanitation measures will be in force.

Among the urgent questions now facing the Spanish health authorities will be whether the nurse treating the priest might have removed or failed to put on any part of this protective clothing. Experts will hope there is a rapid answer to that, because there is a real danger otherwise that scare stories, without any scientific evidence, will circulate on the internet. {they aren't going to be able to pinpoint how she became infected - and that fact is realistically something that should concern HCWs}

Scientists and doctors have repeatedly said that Ebola is not transmitted through water droplets in the air from coughs and sneezes. It does not have a respiratory route for infecting people. It will be important now to ascertain exactly what happened in Madrid so that any such rumours can be quickly scotched.
_________________

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.

She got it from 2 people that had been in West Africa. I kept telling everyone this was going to spread like wild-fire and nobody believes me. I worked in the Reston "Ebola" lab in the 90s. Everything we learned in graduate school was that if this thing made it to US/Europe--given the close contacts and close proximity, long incubation times---it is going to be a nightmare. It was always the 'worst case' prediction in my virology courses. It used to burn out in the Congo because it would kill an entire village and it was miles and miles for anyone to walk to the next one so it would die out. The very thing that makes it so virulent and less of a threat in those areas for 'burning itself out' won't happen in our global population.

I believe you. It would be nice if our leaders did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.

She got it from 2 people that had been in West Africa. I kept telling everyone this was going to spread like wild-fire and nobody believes me. I worked in the Reston "Ebola" lab in the 90s. Everything we learned in graduate school was that if this thing made it to US/Europe--given the close contacts and close proximity, long incubation times---it is going to be a nightmare. It was always the 'worst case' prediction in my virology courses. It used to burn out in the Congo because it would kill an entire village and it was miles and miles for anyone to walk to the next one so it would die out. The very thing that makes it so virulent and less of a threat in those areas for 'burning itself out' won't happen in our global population.

I believe you. It would be nice if our leaders did.

. This the logical conclusion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.

She got it from 2 people that had been in West Africa. I kept telling everyone this was going to spread like wild-fire and nobody believes me. I worked in the Reston "Ebola" lab in the 90s. Everything we learned in graduate school was that if this thing made it to US/Europe--given the close contacts and close proximity, long incubation times---it is going to be a nightmare. It was always the 'worst case' prediction in my virology courses. It used to burn out in the Congo because it would kill an entire village and it was miles and miles for anyone to walk to the next one so it would die out. The very thing that makes it so virulent and less of a threat in those areas for 'burning itself out' won't happen in our global population.

I believe you. It would be nice if our leaders did.

. This the logical conclusion.

They are trying to quell widespread panic by downplaying the situation.

Our administration dropped the ball AGAIN. Health officials told him last March he needed to do something. Too lazy and stupid. You get in front of this before it gets to US/Europe. Too fucking late now.

All travel from West Africa needs to be put on hold. Only in dire/extenuating circumstances with approval and extensive screening.

[Anonymous]

A hospital employee filed a complain about the way they were handling contact with the patient and the lack of precautions taken.

Not surprised at all.

Spain is different