DD won't get the flu shot (Ugh)

[Anonymous]

If you have young children or ithers on a higher risk category in the house then she is being irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

Op here

She decided that since it is just us in the house and no infants or elderly, she wouldn't get it. That was part of her decision making. I asked, what if grandma came to live with us? She said, she would get the shot in that case.

Not sure if she feels invincible, because she has been sick before and hospitalized (not flu related, but a chronic illness that was not D'x, but now under control).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is 17, 18 next month. She says that her body can naturally fend off illnesses. Says she doesn't "believe in it". She refused to get the shot for the past 2 years and says that she feels healthier. In all fairness she has not gotten so much as a cold since then. DH says we can't force her to get one. WWYD?

she sounds stupid. But then again, if she gets the flu and dies we will have one less stupid person on the planet. I would tell her that you are the mom, therefore you make the rules and your rule would include protecting your self from a possible deadly virus. Does she believe in the BCP, or she will go all natural with that too?

Do you think that the choices for contraception are:

1. oral contraceptives
2. nothing?

They're not.

Op here,

Not sure why it's your business, but she believes in contraception. Condoms... etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is 17, 18 next month. She says that her body can naturally fend off illnesses. Says she doesn't "believe in it". She refused to get the shot for the past 2 years and says that she feels healthier. In all fairness she has not gotten so much as a cold since then. DH says we can't force her to get one. WWYD?

she sounds stupid. But then again, if she gets the flu and dies we will have one less stupid person on the planet. I would tell her that you are the mom, therefore you make the rules and your rule would include protecting your self from a possible deadly virus. Does she believe in the BCP, or she will go all natural with that too?

Actually, you sound obnoxious, being nonchalant about a teenager dying of influenza.

[Anonymous]

I went to the doctor today and asked about this: She said what flu epidemic? Where is all this nonsense coming from? We have flu shots for those who need them.

[Anonymous]

More evidence that the teenage brain isn't making mature decisions until age 26. I'd tell her that - and point out that stupid decisions like this one will make me less likely to trust her judgement elsewhere.

Sorry your doctor failed you on this one. It's tough enough parenting teenagers without being undermined.

[Anonymous]

According to a January 14, 2014 article on Reuters, there is a trend with younger adults skipping the flu shot.

Here's the link:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/14/us-usa-flu-vaccination-idUSBREA0D16Y20140114

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More evidence that the teenage brain isn't making mature decisions until age 26. I'd tell her that - and point out that stupid decisions like this one will make me less likely to trust her judgement elsewhere.

Sorry your doctor failed you on this one. It's tough enough parenting teenagers without being undermined.

You're kind of an asshat. There are grown adults oh chose not to vac their kids at least she's making a choice for her own body

[Anonymous]

But those adults are fools, jeopardizing themselves and everyone else. OP isn't, and should not let her daughter become, a fool.

[Anonymous]

your doctor is a complete idiot for not recommending a flu shot for your daughter. And whoever wrote that the people of Europe do not get flu shots..bull shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is 17, 18 next month. She says that her body can naturally fend off illnesses. Says she doesn't "believe in it". She refused to get the shot for the past 2 years and says that she feels healthier. In all fairness she has not gotten so much as a cold since then. DH says we can't force her to get one. WWYD?

she sounds stupid. But then again, if she gets the flu and dies we will have one less stupid person on the planet. I would tell her that you are the mom, therefore you make the rules and your rule would include protecting your self from a possible deadly virus. Does she believe in the BCP, or she will go all natural with that too?

Actually, you sound obnoxious, being nonchalant about a teenager dying of influenza.

LOL!

b/c every single fucking day, a teen is dying from the flu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to the doctor today and asked about this: She said what flu epidemic? Where is all this nonsense coming from? We have flu shots for those who need them.

Well, it's not an epidemic right now. But it probably will be in a month or so.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is 17, 18 next month. She says that her body can naturally fend off illnesses. Says she doesn't "believe in it". She refused to get the shot for the past 2 years and says that she feels healthier. In all fairness she has not gotten so much as a cold since then. DH says we can't force her to get one. WWYD?

she sounds stupid. But then again, if she gets the flu and dies we will have one less stupid person on the planet. I would tell her that you are the mom, therefore you make the rules and your rule would include protecting your self from a possible deadly virus. Does she believe in the BCP, or she will go all natural with that too?

Actually, you sound obnoxious, being nonchalant about a teenager dying of influenza.

LOL!

b/c every single fucking day, a teen is dying from the flu

PP here,

Exactly my point.

[Anonymous]

Have not read other replies but when that bad flu came through a few years ago, it affected young people disproportionately. (they believe it is because those who had been vaccinated years ago for another strain were protected, and young people were not).

I know a girl who almost died and now has only one lung. Extremely athletic girl about your DDs age or maybe a year younger.

I understand where your DD is coming from but she's got an incomplete view of the situation; she needs more facts with respect to why vaccinating make sense.

As an aside, but relevant for this discussion, when my dad had cancer, I met with the head of (the cancer unit in a big hospital in LA) and had a few talks with him. In particular, we discussed the concept of immunotherapy. In layman's terms, here is the story (it may be dated as time has passed): The body doesn't fight cancer because it doesn't see it as a foreign body. Sometimes people who are really far advanced in their cancer, and there seems to be no hope, suddenly recover. In figuring out why, doctors noticed that what often happened in these rare situations was that the patient had a bout with the flu (or maybe some other cold, can't remember now). The belief is that when the flu got the immune system going again, in these rare cases, the body, with it's ramped up to defend foreign bodies, suddenly "sees" the cancer cell as an invader for the first time, so attacks it.

Immunotherapy is this idea if one can get the immune system ramped up, maybe it will then "see" the cancer cells. The problem is everyone reacts differently and no one knows the dosage, etc, so this hasn't got through the FDA system.

Ok so…what does this have to do with your DD's situation? I asked the head doctor, "well if that's the case, that's sort of an argument to not get the flu shot, right? Perhaps if my dad didn't get the flu shot, then got the flu, his body might have "seen" the cancer while "seeing" the flu, right?"

And the doctor said, "Yes, there is an argument for that, but the problem is SO MANY PEOPLE DIE OF THE FLU, it doesn't work in the cost/benefit analysis."

Bottom line, what I learned is that the flu is a big, big deal.

[Anonymous]

Saw a story in the news a few nights ago. Woman, 29 died of the flu. She leaves 2 young children and a husband behind. Husband had the flu shot, he's alive. She didn't get the shot, she's dead. After wife died, husband said he "understood" how serious flu is and went out to get his kids the shot.
Many people don't understand flu. Encourage her to reconsider the shot.