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[Anonymous]

LOL at a large local/regional firm not considering UMD grads. miles & stockbridge, ober/kaler, saul ewing, etc. are full of maryland grads.

your firm won't consider UMD grads if you work at skadden, sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.

OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions

Sorry, but this seems naive. I don't want to be mean, but if you can look at all of the problems with this plan that are staring you in the face and still conclude that it's a worthwhile endeavor...you may not have what it takes to be a good lawyer.

Firms care about grades and law school rank. Period. They would rather hire a 23 year old Harvard law grad who has zero work experience than you for this position. Does that make sense? No. But it is how it works.

+1000. From a very large large firm senior associate on the recruiting commitee. Real world experience means nothing compared to law school and GPA. Also OP's advanced age will be an undiscussed negative.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.

OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions

Sorry, but this seems naive. I don't want to be mean, but if you can look at all of the problems with this plan that are staring you in the face and still conclude that it's a worthwhile endeavor...you may not have what it takes to be a good lawyer.

Firms care about grades and law school rank. Period. They would rather hire a 23 year old Harvard law grad who has zero work experience than you for this position. Does that make sense? No. But it is how it works.

+1000. From a very large large firm senior associate on the recruiting commitee. Real world experience means nothing compared to law school and GPA. Also OP's advanced age will be an undiscussed negative.

This is huge. No large firm has a need for an old first year. They need energy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL at a large local/regional firm not considering UMD grads. miles & stockbridge, ober/kaler, saul ewing, etc. are full of maryland grads.

your firm won't consider UMD grads if you work at skadden, sure.

The only of the above firms I have heard of is Saul Ewing. Isn't Mikes and Stockbridge a plsintiffs injury firm???

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at a large local/regional firm not considering UMD grads. miles & stockbridge, ober/kaler, saul ewing, etc. are full of maryland grads.

your firm won't consider UMD grads if you work at skadden, sure.

The only of the above firms I have heard of is Saul Ewing. Isn't Mikes and Stockbridge a plsintiffs injury firm???

I've never heard of any of them. Been a lawyer here for 15 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at a large local/regional firm not considering UMD grads. miles & stockbridge, ober/kaler, saul ewing, etc. are full of maryland grads.

your firm won't consider UMD grads if you work at skadden, sure.

The only of the above firms I have heard of is Saul Ewing. Isn't Mikes and Stockbridge a plsintiffs injury firm???

Nope, Miles & Stockbridge does a lot of real estate. No personal injury. It's the only one of those I've heard of either.

I'm not sure OP would get into Maryland, though, so this is irrelevant.

OP, perhaps look for an HR position at a law firm?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at a large local/regional firm not considering UMD grads. miles & stockbridge, ober/kaler, saul ewing, etc. are full of maryland grads.

your firm won't consider UMD grads if you work at skadden, sure.

The only of the above firms I have heard of is Saul Ewing. Isn't Mikes and Stockbridge a plsintiffs injury firm???

Nope, Miles & Stockbridge does a lot of real estate. No personal injury. It's the only one of those I've heard of either.

I'm not sure OP would get into Maryland, though, so this is irrelevant.

OP, perhaps look for an HR position at a law firm?

He can get in almost anywhere now. The last two years has seen an astronomical switch and schools are about to close rampantly.

[Anonymous]

i find it hard to believe any lawyer in this area hasn't heard of miles, ober, or saul ewing. they are all full-service regional firms (couple hundred attys apiece). granted, they are much more maryland than they are DC, but i know ober and miles have DC offices (not sure about saul ewing).

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.

OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions

Sorry, but this seems naive. I don't want to be mean, but if you can look at all of the problems with this plan that are staring you in the face and still conclude that it's a worthwhile endeavor...you may not have what it takes to be a good lawyer.

Firms care about grades and law school rank. Period. They would rather hire a 23 year old Harvard law grad who has zero work experience than you for this position. Does that make sense? No. But it is how it works.

+1000. From a very large large firm senior associate on the recruiting commitee. Real world experience means nothing compared to law school and GPA. Also OP's advanced age will be an undiscussed negative.

At entry level this is true. Experience counts later on. Not HR experience, though.

[Anonymous]

I think at this point the OP has probably joined the Peace Corps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i find it hard to believe any lawyer in this area hasn't heard of miles, ober, or saul ewing. they are all full-service regional firms (couple hundred attys apiece). granted, they are much more maryland than they are DC, but i know ober and miles have DC offices (not sure about saul ewing).

Never. Not once. Been in the DC law community (law school + clerkship + 7 years in an actual large firm + government for another chunk). Maryland is not DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think at this point the OP has probably joined the Peace Corps.

Much better career decision.

[Anonymous]

OOOOOOOOOOH you are impressive! A FUCKING CLERKSHIP? NO WAY! Of course you haven't heard of those lousy ass Maryland firms. You were busy, like, CLERKING and working at an ACTUAL large firm.

This is why i have zero friends who are lawyers and still hang out with my friends from high school. You sound like such a fucking douche. When you are hanging around with your buddies (this is a hypothetical, so bear with me), do you constantly try to one-up them or point out when they are wrong about something? Do you have a license plate that says some shit like FNRTHGS (because, you know, you "enjoy the finer things in life")?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOOOOOOOOOH you are impressive! A FUCKING CLERKSHIP? NO WAY! Of course you haven't heard of those lousy ass Maryland firms. You were busy, like, CLERKING and working at an ACTUAL large firm.

This is why i have zero friends who are lawyers and still hang out with my friends from high school. You sound like such a fucking douche. When you are hanging around with your buddies (this is a hypothetical, so bear with me), do you constantly try to one-up them or point out when they are wrong about something? Do you have a license plate that says some shit like FNRTHGS (because, you know, you "enjoy the finer things in life")?

OP? lol. NP here but whoever this PP is has some major issues. I think the other PP was just pointing out that he/she has varied experience. Yikes you have a lot of anger issues. Scary

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OOOOOOOOOOH you are impressive! A FUCKING CLERKSHIP? NO WAY! Of course you haven't heard of those lousy ass Maryland firms. You were busy, like, CLERKING and working at an ACTUAL large firm.

This is why i have zero friends who are lawyers and still hang out with my friends from high school. You sound like such a fucking douche. When you are hanging around with your buddies (this is a hypothetical, so bear with me), do you constantly try to one-up them or point out when they are wrong about something? Do you have a license plate that says some shit like FNRTHGS (because, you know, you "enjoy the finer things in life")?

OP? lol. NP here but whoever this PP is has some major issues. I think the other PP was just pointing out that he/she has varied experience. Yikes you have a lot of anger issues. Scary

not PP here and the reply was over the top, but that poster did not seem like s/he was just pointing out his/her "varied experience." mentioning a clerkship and "actual large firm" were pretty clearly bragging points. not the kind of person i'd want to know.