Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dads everywhere in this country need to beware of barren bitches. They will covet your kids, and buy then if they can.

[phone]

It is so sick and twisted. They become so desperate they will stop at nothing to get their hands on a child to play house.

agree, adoptive parents can be nuts, it is really the adoptive mothers who drag their husbands along for the ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This girl will now have some major psychological issues. As a former foster care worker, I have seen first hand what removals can do to children. She is old enough now to understand and remember, and will be harmed by it. Regardless of what the father did during the pregnancy, he deserves to raise his own child. I am sure as an adult, this child will say that she wished this were the case.

agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dads everywhere in this country need to beware of barren bitches. They will covet your kids, and buy then if they can.

[phone]

It is so sick and twisted. They become so desperate they will stop at nothing to get their hands on a child to play house.

agree, adoptive parents can be nuts, it is really the adoptive mothers who drag their husbands along for the ride.

I hope you're in therapy for your issues. It's clear you're now just projecting your own personal issues onto this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dads everywhere in this country need to beware of barren bitches. They will covet your kids, and buy then if they can.

[phone]

It is so sick and twisted. They become so desperate they will stop at nothing to get their hands on a child to play house.

agree, adoptive parents can be nuts, it is really the adoptive mothers who drag their husbands along for the ride.

What the hell? You are unwell. I think something's underneath your rantings that you maybe need to work on...

[Anonymous]

Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents, even though the court ruled in favor of the father, kept the child for 2 yrs before turning her over. And now they say the father is obstructing the court system. It was fine when the Capobiancos were doing the obstructing.

For some of you condemning the father, you might want to read up on the FULL story before condemning him. He was with the mother, asked her to marry him when they found out she was pregnant, tried to support her and SHE refused to let him, would not tell him when the baby was born, and set up the adoption behind his back. The Capobiancos took the baby when she was 3 days old to South Carolina, filed for the adoption there, all the time knowing that the father wanted to keep the baby. He was served the papers less than a week from deployment to Iraq, which the birth mother knew about. She gave the Capobiancos his name, and misspelled in on purpose, so to give the adoptive parents more time to push through the adoption. The Capobiancos never had his permission, and took to the media to paint the father as a dead beat dad. The birth mother is the one who started this mess, and the Capobiancos kept the mess going.

Once more, and as I have said before, it is YOU who needs to read the actual record. You are reading the biodad's spin after-the-fact.

There is nothing in the court records about her refusing to let him support the mom. He knew when the baby was due. He made no effort to contact the biomom. It was, as I recall, 11 days before his deployment, not less than a week. The Capobiancos did not know the biodad wanted the baby, as he did not in fact attempt any contact with the baby throughout most of the pregnancy and the first four months of her life. He signed away initially and then changed his mind.

Stop rewriting history. Just stop. The longer you do this, the more unhinged you seem. You don't like the facts in front of you, so you try to change the facts. It's stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents, even though the court ruled in favor of the father, kept the child for 2 yrs before turning her over. And now they say the father is obstructing the court system. It was fine when the Capobiancos were doing the obstructing.

For some of you condemning the father, you might want to read up on the FULL story before condemning him. He was with the mother, asked her to marry him when they found out she was pregnant, tried to support her and SHE refused to let him, would not tell him when the baby was born, and set up the adoption behind his back. The Capobiancos took the baby when she was 3 days old to South Carolina, filed for the adoption there, all the time knowing that the father wanted to keep the baby. He was served the papers less than a week from deployment to Iraq, which the birth mother knew about. She gave the Capobiancos his name, and misspelled in on purpose, so to give the adoptive parents more time to push through the adoption. The Capobiancos never had his permission, and took to the media to paint the father as a dead beat dad. The birth mother is the one who started this mess, and the Capobiancos kept the mess going.

Once more, and as I have said before, it is YOU who needs to read the actual record. You are reading the biodad's spin after-the-fact.

There is nothing in the court records about her refusing to let him support the mom. He knew when the baby was due. He made no effort to contact the biomom. It was, as I recall, 11 days before his deployment, not less than a week. The Capobiancos did not know the biodad wanted the baby, as he did not in fact attempt any contact with the baby throughout most of the pregnancy and the first four months of her life. He signed away initially and then changed his mind.

Stop rewriting history. Just stop. The longer you do this, the more unhinged you seem. You don't like the facts in front of you, so you try to change the facts. It's stupid.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

I agree, but the bio dad in this case did not want his daughter. He did not want his child. He made that clear in more ways than one. I understand he changed his mind, but you can't sign documents, be essentially a deadbeat father and expecting father, and suddenly feel like you're entitled to change your mind on a whim on your child. Parenting doesn't work like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

I agree, but the bio dad in this case did not want his daughter. He did not want his child. He made that clear in more ways than one. I understand he changed his mind, but you can't sign documents, be essentially a deadbeat father and expecting father, and suddenly feel like you're entitled to change your mind on a whim on your child. Parenting doesn't work like that.

Well, I think maybe it does work like that in Oklahoma, where both the bio mother and bio father reside and where the baby wass bhorn. But you'reright, nit doesn'twork like that in SC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

Exactly, adoption is a wonderful solution to tragic circumstances, but when it causes the tragic situations, such as in this case where the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was willing and able to parent, it stops being a wonderful thing.

Kind of how it's wonderful when a widow or widower finds a new spouse, but killing someone's spouse so you can marry them is not cool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

Exactly, adoption is a wonderful solution to tragic circumstances, but when it causes the tragic situations, such as in this case where the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was willing and able to parent, it stops being a wonderful thing.

Kind of how it's wonderful when a widow or widower finds a new spouse, but killing someone's spouse so you can marry them is not cool.

You are 100% wrong when you assert that "the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was will and able to parent." He initially refused to parent in any way, shape or form, and also initially gave up his rights. He changed his mind. Stop pretending that it was always his intention to be involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

Exactly, adoption is a wonderful solution to tragic circumstances, but when it causes the tragic situations, such as in this case where the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was willing and able to parent, it stops being a wonderful thing.

Kind of how it's wonderful when a widow or widower finds a new spouse, but killing someone's spouse so you can marry them is not cool.

You are 100% wrong when you assert that "the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was will and able to parent." He initially refused to parent in any way, shape or form, and also initially gave up his rights. He changed his mind. Stop pretending that it was always his intention to be involved.

You are ignoring the inconvenient truth that it is in the best interests of a child to be with his or her family of origin. I know that people simply don't want to believe that-- love is all you need, right? Sorry, the research does not agree with you.

As has been pointed out, if a child has parents who are unwilling or unable to parent, then adoption can be a wonderful option for the CHILD. Everyone seems to think this is such an injustice for the Capobiancos, and all the media coverage seems to surround how terrible this all is for THEM. Excuse me, but what is in the best interest of this little girl? It is to remain with her family of origin. Regardless of whether the father "changed his mind". The fact is that he contacted an attorney 5 days after signing the papers, realizing that he made a mistake. This is well within the time frame of "changing one's mind" in adoption in almost every state in the nation, except.. you guessed it... South Carolina, where fathers have almost no rights.

The South Carolina court shouldn't even have jurisdiction. The child was born in Oklahoma.

If folks are not outraged by how absolutely fucked up the adoption laws are in this country, then you are not paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

Exactly, adoption is a wonderful solution to tragic circumstances, but when it causes the tragic situations, such as in this case where the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was willing and able to parent, it stops being a wonderful thing.

Kind of how it's wonderful when a widow or widower finds a new spouse, but killing someone's spouse so you can marry them is not cool.

You are 100% wrong when you assert that "the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was will and able to parent." He initially refused to parent in any way, shape or form, and also initially gave up his rights. He changed his mind. Stop pretending that it was always his intention to be involved.

You are ignoring the inconvenient truth that it is in the best interests of a child to be with his or her family of origin. I know that people simply don't want to believe that-- love is all you need, right? Sorry, the research does not agree with you.

As has been pointed out, if a child has parents who are unwilling or unable to parent, then adoption can be a wonderful option for the CHILD. Everyone seems to think this is such an injustice for the Capobiancos, and all the media coverage seems to surround how terrible this all is for THEM. Excuse me, but what is in the best interest of this little girl? It is to remain with her family of origin. Regardless of whether the father "changed his mind". The fact is that he contacted an attorney 5 days after signing the papers, realizing that he made a mistake. This is well within the time frame of "changing one's mind" in adoption in almost every state in the nation, except.. you guessed it... South Carolina, where fathers have almost no rights.

The South Carolina court shouldn't even have jurisdiction. The child was born in Oklahoma.

If folks are not outraged by how absolutely fucked up the adoption laws are in this country, then you are not paying attention.

I think the bolded nails it. Right now we've got 50 states plus DC with 51 different laws. A mother or prospective adoptive parent can shop around until they find the laws that give them the most advantage. This adoption would never have been legal in Oklahoma.

South Carolina law needs to be fixed, but so does the system that allows people to "shop" for the laws that give them the most advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a great option for kids who need a home. Adoption is not a fine option for infertile people to obtain a baby at any cost...especially one who has a family already that is cpable and willing to raise them.

Exactly, adoption is a wonderful solution to tragic circumstances, but when it causes the tragic situations, such as in this case where the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was willing and able to parent, it stops being a wonderful thing.

Kind of how it's wonderful when a widow or widower finds a new spouse, but killing someone's spouse so you can marry them is not cool.

You are 100% wrong when you assert that "the adoption lead to a child being taken from a biological parent who was will and able to parent." He initially refused to parent in any way, shape or form, and also initially gave up his rights. He changed his mind. Stop pretending that it was always his intention to be involved.

You are ignoring the inconvenient truth that it is in the best interests of a child to be with his or her family of origin. I know that people simply don't want to believe that-- love is all you need, right? Sorry, the research does not agree with you.

As has been pointed out, if a child has parents who are unwilling or unable to parent, then adoption can be a wonderful option for the CHILD. Everyone seems to think this is such an injustice for the Capobiancos, and all the media coverage seems to surround how terrible this all is for THEM. Excuse me, but what is in the best interest of this little girl? It is to remain with her family of origin. Regardless of whether the father "changed his mind". The fact is that he contacted an attorney 5 days after signing the papers, realizing that he made a mistake. This is well within the time frame of "changing one's mind" in adoption in almost every state in the nation, except.. you guessed it... South Carolina, where fathers have almost no rights.

The South Carolina court shouldn't even have jurisdiction. The child was born in Oklahoma.

If folks are not outraged by how absolutely fucked up the adoption laws are in this country, then you are not paying attention.

And you are conveniently ignoring the fact that the biological mother had arranged an open adoption and had access to the child. How is that not in the best interests of the child? And the sperm donor took the child away from three loving adults and refused to even allow them to know where the child was. How is that in the best interest of the child?

5 days - 5 days and 13 MONTHS. How convenient to ignore the true timeline there.

[Anonymous]

The problem here is the kid is cute. That is what we fight over. Had she been a disabled funny looking kid, they would have dropped her and run.