Arlington school boundary petition

[Anonymous]

What exactly are the wrong-minded changes? Adding a neighborhood school closer to Rosslyn, so that we don't end up busing kids several miles to Taylor-- which is then compounded by needing to add more buses to bus kids who live within close walking distance to the north of Taylor who will now be on buses to Jamestown. This is simply not good for the environment. The county should be trying to encourage walking wherever possible. Busing kids from Rosslyn and points due west to Taylor requires APS to push all population north, which exacerbates the problems at the already overcrowded schools in far north arlington.


exactly. it's not a long-term solution. and as for the poster who said those living next to taylor wouldn't be bused to jamestown, take a look at the proposed new boundary plan. perhaps not next door, but within 2-3 blocks of taylor.

[Anonymous]

Read the thread: There is no place to put another school along the Orange Line. (I wish there were.) I think taking over Key for a plain vanilla school would be a mistake; the lower-income native Spanish speakers should not have to travel further to attend Key. Like the proposals to change Hoffman-Boston, it's pretty arrogant to decide that you're going to take a disadvantaged group's school away because you've decided something else should go there instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the thread: There is no place to put another school along the Orange Line. (I wish there were.) I think taking over Key for a plain vanilla school would be a mistake; the lower-income native Spanish speakers should not have to travel further to attend Key. Like the proposals to change Hoffman-Boston, it's pretty arrogant to decide that you're going to take a disadvantaged group's school away because you've decided something else should go there instead.

I agree. There is a very poor, largely Hispanic population in Rosslyn, and the Key immersion program was designed to help that disadvantaged group. Moving the program to make Key a regular neighborhood school would undermine a successful program and the bonds formed between the school and the community.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Key, and we would actually be happy not to get involved with the hyper competitive momzilla rat-race which is ASFS. But we don't like immersion programs, so this is where we'll wind up because we have the option of one specialty school or the other and not a regular school.

I am in the same boat. I wish I had another option.

That's what the petition wants too- maybe you should sign it. It was not the best worded petition I've ever seen, but it was pretty clear to me that they thought that a facility closer to the Orange Line (ASFS/Key) should be converted to a neighborhood school, and the corresponding program be moved elsewhere. If ASFS were converted to a neighborhood school, wouldn't people nearby simply be happy to go there?

Nope. I paid a lot of fucking $ and waited 2 years for a house to come on the market in Key boundary for guaranteed admission to ASFS.

There is a reason LV real estate/ Wilson blvd side is priced much higher than the Clarendon blvd/Ashton/LP side. The elem and middle schools are a big factor.

And you wonder why the rest of Arlington thinks that LV folks feel themselves a privileged class. "I paid more than others, thus, I shouldn't have to be subjected too movement like others". The fact that any neighborhood is offered guaranteed admission to a sorta, kinda choice school, when those who live a block away aren't is simply absurd. Again, thanks for affirming the point of the petition, and many of the postings made thereto.

+ 1000! well put. these sorts of posts just make those who oppose the petition sound like privileged folks not wanting to let go of privilege. and notwithstanding the possibility that the proposed alternative actually serves the greater good in the long run.

oh give me a break. It's not like the majority of people on that petition are sitting in homes much cheaper than the ones in Lyon Village. The area that serves Taylor (and with Yorktown as HS) is very similarily priced....and most of you would simply die if you had to send your kids to W-L so BLOW ME.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Key, and we would actually be happy not to get involved with the hyper competitive momzilla rat-race which is ASFS. But we don't like immersion programs, so this is where we'll wind up because we have the option of one specialty school or the other and not a regular school.

I am in the same boat. I wish I had another option.

That's what the petition wants too- maybe you should sign it. It was not the best worded petition I've ever seen, but it was pretty clear to me that they thought that a facility closer to the Orange Line (ASFS/Key) should be converted to a neighborhood school, and the corresponding program be moved elsewhere. If ASFS were converted to a neighborhood school, wouldn't people nearby simply be happy to go there?

Nope. I paid a lot of fucking $ and waited 2 years for a house to come on the market in Key boundary for guaranteed admission to ASFS.

There is a reason LV real estate/ Wilson blvd side is priced much higher than the Clarendon blvd/Ashton/LP side. The elem and middle schools are a big factor.

And you wonder why the rest of Arlington thinks that LV folks feel themselves a privileged class. "I paid more than others, thus, I shouldn't have to be subjected too movement like others". The fact that any neighborhood is offered guaranteed admission to a sorta, kinda choice school, when those who live a block away aren't is simply absurd. Again, thanks for affirming the point of the petition, and many of the postings made thereto.

+ 1000! well put. these sorts of posts just make those who oppose the petition sound like privileged folks not wanting to let go of privilege. and notwithstanding the possibility that the proposed alternative actually serves the greater good in the long run.

oh give me a break. It's not like the majority of people on that petition are sitting in homes much cheaper than the ones in Lyon Village. The area that serves Taylor (and with Yorktown as HS) is very similarily priced....and most of you would simply die if you had to send your kids to W-L so BLOW ME.

that's really mature. and inaccurate. a bunch of us zoned for taylor are zoned with washington and lee. and, moreover, perfectly happy with that -- until your rather condescending post, i wasn't even aware that w-l was viewed as so obviously inferior.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the thread: There is no place to put another school along the Orange Line. (I wish there were.) I think taking over Key for a plain vanilla school would be a mistake; the lower-income native Spanish speakers should not have to travel further to attend Key. Like the proposals to change Hoffman-Boston, it's pretty arrogant to decide that you're going to take a disadvantaged group's school away because you've decided something else should go there instead.

What has happened to the Wilson School site that makes it no longer available?

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Key, and we would actually be happy not to get involved with the hyper competitive momzilla rat-race which is ASFS. But we don't like immersion programs, so this is where we'll wind up because we have the option of one specialty school or the other and not a regular school.

I am in the same boat. I wish I had another option.

That's what the petition wants too- maybe you should sign it. It was not the best worded petition I've ever seen, but it was pretty clear to me that they thought that a facility closer to the Orange Line (ASFS/Key) should be converted to a neighborhood school, and the corresponding program be moved elsewhere. If ASFS were converted to a neighborhood school, wouldn't people nearby simply be happy to go there?

Nope. I paid a lot of fucking $ and waited 2 years for a house to come on the market in Key boundary for guaranteed admission to ASFS.

There is a reason LV real estate/ Wilson blvd side is priced much higher than the Clarendon blvd/Ashton/LP side. The elem and middle schools are a big factor.

And you wonder why the rest of Arlington thinks that LV folks feel themselves a privileged class. "I paid more than others, thus, I shouldn't have to be subjected too movement like others". The fact that any neighborhood is offered guaranteed admission to a sorta, kinda choice school, when those who live a block away aren't is simply absurd. Again, thanks for affirming the point of the petition, and many of the postings made thereto.

+ 1000! well put. these sorts of posts just make those who oppose the petition sound like privileged folks not wanting to let go of privilege. and notwithstanding the possibility that the proposed alternative actually serves the greater good in the long run.

oh give me a break. It's not like the majority of people on that petition are sitting in homes much cheaper than the ones in Lyon Village. The area that serves Taylor (and with Yorktown as HS) is very similarily priced....and most of you would simply die if you had to send your kids to W-L so BLOW ME.

that's really mature. and inaccurate. a bunch of us zoned for taylor are zoned with washington and lee. and, moreover, perfectly happy with that -- until your rather condescending post, i wasn't even aware that w-l was viewed as so obviously inferior.

Really, you are on this forum and there has been a W-L vs Yorktown post near this one for over a week now with Taylor/Williamsburg/Yorktown assholes stating W-l has brown people. So I call complete BS that you were unaware esp since the tiger moms at your elem school love to yenta on and on about YHS...or maybe you really do just live under a rock.

[Anonymous]

As someone who lives in S. Arlington, happy with most of the neighborhood schools there, aperfectly comfortable sending my kids to Wakefield, I find this hilarious. That is all.

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I am looking back to the times someone has said people choose LV because of ASFS, and posters have said Ha.
My statement should not be taken as encouragement to pop up again on the real estate threads.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Key, and we would actually be happy not to get involved with the hyper competitive momzilla rat-race which is ASFS. But we don't like immersion programs, so this is where we'll wind up because we have the option of one specialty school or the other and not a regular school.

I am in the same boat. I wish I had another option.

That's what the petition wants too- maybe you should sign it. It was not the best worded petition I've ever seen, but it was pretty clear to me that they thought that a facility closer to the Orange Line (ASFS/Key) should be converted to a neighborhood school, and the corresponding program be moved elsewhere. If ASFS were converted to a neighborhood school, wouldn't people nearby simply be happy to go there?

Nope. I paid a lot of fucking $ and waited 2 years for a house to come on the market in Key boundary for guaranteed admission to ASFS.

There is a reason LV real estate/ Wilson blvd side is priced much higher than the Clarendon blvd/Ashton/LP side. The elem and middle schools are a big factor.

And you wonder why the rest of Arlington thinks that LV folks feel themselves a privileged class. "I paid more than others, thus, I shouldn't have to be subjected too movement like others". The fact that any neighborhood is offered guaranteed admission to a sorta, kinda choice school, when those who live a block away aren't is simply absurd. Again, thanks for affirming the point of the petition, and many of the postings made thereto.

+ 1000! well put. these sorts of posts just make those who oppose the petition sound like privileged folks not wanting to let go of privilege. and notwithstanding the possibility that the proposed alternative actually serves the greater good in the long run.

oh give me a break. It's not like the majority of people on that petition are sitting in homes much cheaper than the ones in Lyon Village. The area that serves Taylor (and with Yorktown as HS) is very similarily priced....and most of you would simply die if you had to send your kids to W-L so BLOW ME.

that's really mature. and inaccurate. a bunch of us zoned for taylor are zoned with washington and lee. and, moreover, perfectly happy with that -- until your rather condescending post, i wasn't even aware that w-l was viewed as so obviously inferior.

Really, you are on this forum and there has been a W-L vs Yorktown post near this one for over a week now with Taylor/Williamsburg/Yorktown assholes stating W-l has brown people. So I call complete BS that you were unaware esp since the tiger moms at your elem school love to yenta on and on about YHS...or maybe you really do just live under a rock.

If you actually read the posts there, you'd see that it's hardly conclusive that W-L is inferior. As I said before many Taylor families are zoned for W-L and are perfectly happy with that opportunity. and is the profanity really necessary? goodness, perhaps you should try to do something more productive with your apparent rage.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the thread: There is no place to put another school along the Orange Line. (I wish there were.) I think taking over Key for a plain vanilla school would be a mistake; the lower-income native Spanish speakers should not have to travel further to attend Key. Like the proposals to change Hoffman-Boston, it's pretty arrogant to decide that you're going to take a disadvantaged group's school away because you've decided something else should go there instead.

What has happened to the Wilson School site that makes it no longer available?

good question. at the boundary meeting tonight, people asked for clarification as to why choice schools were off the table (so, for example, is it really impracticable so not worth considering?), but the speaker was unable to speak to even that question, much less any specifics re: the choice schools. for example, why ATS gets 220 extra seats when the boundary schools are so overcrowded. or why ASFS is still considered a "choice" school when it actually functions now as a boundary school given that scant few have or will get in via lottery in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Key, and we would actually be happy not to get involved with the hyper competitive momzilla rat-race which is ASFS. But we don't like immersion programs, so this is where we'll wind up because we have the option of one specialty school or the other and not a regular school.

I am in the same boat. I wish I had another option.

That's what the petition wants too- maybe you should sign it. It was not the best worded petition I've ever seen, but it was pretty clear to me that they thought that a facility closer to the Orange Line (ASFS/Key) should be converted to a neighborhood school, and the corresponding program be moved elsewhere. If ASFS were converted to a neighborhood school, wouldn't people nearby simply be happy to go there?

Nope. I paid a lot of fucking $ and waited 2 years for a house to come on the market in Key boundary for guaranteed admission to ASFS.

There is a reason LV real estate/ Wilson blvd side is priced much higher than the Clarendon blvd/Ashton/LP side. The elem and middle schools are a big factor.

And you wonder why the rest of Arlington thinks that LV folks feel themselves a privileged class. "I paid more than others, thus, I shouldn't have to be subjected too movement like others". The fact that any neighborhood is offered guaranteed admission to a sorta, kinda choice school, when those who live a block away aren't is simply absurd. Again, thanks for affirming the point of the petition, and many of the postings made thereto.

+ 1000! well put. these sorts of posts just make those who oppose the petition sound like privileged folks not wanting to let go of privilege. and notwithstanding the possibility that the proposed alternative actually serves the greater good in the long run.

oh give me a break. It's not like the majority of people on that petition are sitting in homes much cheaper than the ones in Lyon Village. The area that serves Taylor (and with Yorktown as HS) is very similarily priced....and most of you would simply die if you had to send your kids to W-L so BLOW ME.

that's really mature. and inaccurate. a bunch of us zoned for taylor are zoned with washington and lee. and, moreover, perfectly happy with that -- until your rather condescending post, i wasn't even aware that w-l was viewed as so obviously inferior.

Really, you are on this forum and there has been a W-L vs Yorktown post near this one for over a week now with Taylor/Williamsburg/Yorktown assholes stating W-l has brown people. So I call complete BS that you were unaware esp since the tiger moms at your elem school love to yenta on and on about YHS...or maybe you really do just live under a rock.

If you actually read the posts there, you'd see that it's hardly conclusive that W-L is inferior. As I said before many Taylor families are zoned for W-L and are perfectly happy with that opportunity. and is the profanity really necessary? goodness, perhaps you should try to do something more productive with your apparent rage.

There is a troll(s)/or extremely misinformed person in this and the W-L v Yorktown thread who is claiming, to paraphrase, that W-L is inferior to Yorktown, and s(he) doesn't understand why someone would specifically choose a house in the W-L district. Also, that same person may be trolling about how wealthy Lyon Village kids are bused to "superior" Williamsburg and Yorktown as some sort of privilege.

The facts: Lyon Village families moved for the schools, and they are Key/ASFS, Swanson, and Washington-Lee (not Yorktown). Lyon Village is two blocks from W-L. I don't know where these trolls came from, but until this week discussions about Arlington schools have been much more civil.

In a couple years expect quite a few Yorktown neighborhoods to be moved into W-L. Most people won't mind. 200 plus Yorktown students transfer to W-L right now. But I guess nasty language is the norm from now on, and we can expect more of it.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in Key, and we would actually be happy not to get involved with the hyper competitive momzilla rat-race which is ASFS. But we don't like immersion programs, so this is where we'll wind up because we have the option of one specialty school or the other and not a regular school.

I am in the same boat. I wish I had another option.

That's what the petition wants too- maybe you should sign it. It was not the best worded petition I've ever seen, but it was pretty clear to me that they thought that a facility closer to the Orange Line (ASFS/Key) should be converted to a neighborhood school, and the corresponding program be moved elsewhere. If ASFS were converted to a neighborhood school, wouldn't people nearby simply be happy to go there?

Nope. I paid a lot of fucking $ and waited 2 years for a house to come on the market in Key boundary for guaranteed admission to ASFS.

There is a reason LV real estate/ Wilson blvd side is priced much higher than the Clarendon blvd/Ashton/LP side. The elem and middle schools are a big factor.

And you wonder why the rest of Arlington thinks that LV folks feel themselves a privileged class. "I paid more than others, thus, I shouldn't have to be subjected too movement like others". The fact that any neighborhood is offered guaranteed admission to a sorta, kinda choice school, when those who live a block away aren't is simply absurd. Again, thanks for affirming the point of the petition, and many of the postings made thereto.

+ 1000! well put. these sorts of posts just make those who oppose the petition sound like privileged folks not wanting to let go of privilege. and notwithstanding the possibility that the proposed alternative actually serves the greater good in the long run.

oh give me a break. It's not like the majority of people on that petition are sitting in homes much cheaper than the ones in Lyon Village. The area that serves Taylor (and with Yorktown as HS) is very similarily priced....and most of you would simply die if you had to send your kids to W-L so BLOW ME.

that's really mature. and inaccurate. a bunch of us zoned for taylor are zoned with washington and lee. and, moreover, perfectly happy with that -- until your rather condescending post, i wasn't even aware that w-l was viewed as so obviously inferior.

Really, you are on this forum and there has been a W-L vs Yorktown post near this one for over a week now with Taylor/Williamsburg/Yorktown assholes stating W-l has brown people. So I call complete BS that you were unaware esp since the tiger moms at your elem school love to yenta on and on about YHS...or maybe you really do just live under a rock.

If you actually read the posts there, you'd see that it's hardly conclusive that W-L is inferior. As I said before many Taylor families are zoned for W-L and are perfectly happy with that opportunity. and is the profanity really necessary? goodness, perhaps you should try to do something more productive with your apparent rage.

There is a troll(s)/or extremely misinformed person in this and the W-L v Yorktown thread who is claiming, to paraphrase, that W-L is inferior to Yorktown, and s(he) doesn't understand why someone would specifically choose a house in the W-L district. Also, that same person may be trolling about how wealthy Lyon Village kids are bused to "superior" Williamsburg and Yorktown as some sort of privilege.

The facts: Lyon Village families moved for the schools, and they are Key/ASFS, Swanson, and Washington-Lee (not Yorktown). Lyon Village is two blocks from W-L. I don't know where these trolls came from, but until this week discussions about Arlington schools have been much more civil.

In a couple years expect quite a few Yorktown neighborhoods to be moved into W-L. Most people won't mind. 200 plus Yorktown students transfer to W-L right now. But I guess nasty language is the norm from now on, and we can expect more of it.

You aren't 100% correct on your facts. Half of Lyon Village at the elementary school level is Taylor Elem boundary--the other half is ASFS/Key.

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Anonymous wrote:Lyon Village residents should hold their fire and save their energy. Wait til the middle school/high school boundary discussions, when your special dispensation to bus your children miles away to Williamsburg/Yorktown is on the table. Prepare for some boundary changes.

TJ seems like a logical destination for Lyon Village. It's basically contiguous with Ashton Heights which goes there. If they're busing the kids to Yorktown, they could probably relieve capacity crunch in the north by busing them slightly further to Wakefield.

Pretty sure u are talking about Lyon Park which is adjacent to AH and goes to TJ middle.

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Anonymous wrote:Read the thread: There is no place to put another school along the Orange Line. (I wish there were.) I think taking over Key for a plain vanilla school would be a mistake; the lower-income native Spanish speakers should not have to travel further to attend Key. Like the proposals to change Hoffman-Boston, it's pretty arrogant to decide that you're going to take a disadvantaged group's school away because you've decided something else should go there instead.

What has happened to the Wilson School site that makes it no longer available?

good question. at the boundary meeting tonight, people asked for clarification as to why choice schools were off the table (so, for example, is it really impracticable so not worth considering?), but the speaker was unable to speak to even that question, much less any specifics re: the choice schools. for example, why ATS gets 220 extra seats when the boundary schools are so overcrowded. or why ASFS is still considered a "choice" school when it actually functions now as a boundary school given that scant few have or will get in via lottery in the future.

ATS is slated to get those seats b/c they can fill them without the cascading boundary changes a new neighborhood school would cause. With waitlists of 100 per grade those seats will fill immediately and draw more kids out of the already over-crowded schools with no muss, no fuss. Makes perfect sense.