For strong students (grades, tests, ECs), what are your child's safeties and targets?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

Im assuming you're the president and your child is applying right?

Safeties are high test optional schools.

Those arent high TO schools. Around 70% of Emory and Case students submit test scores. Only 50% of Vandy students submit. 60% of WashU students submit so wouldn't those be the safeties?

Source for this other than a college prep place? From Emory itself…

32% of their admitted class last cycle did not supply or submit any test score. Oft those admitted, 47% submitted an SAT score and 21% submitted an ACT score. They don't indicate of this 32% what are the number of students that submitted both tests and were therefore counted twice as submitting scores. So, it is likely higher than even 32%.

Emory nor any other school would need to do this because they practice score choice. If you submit more than one test, the highest score is used. What you are reading is the highest score reported for every student who submitted. We get it, you hate Emory, but don't show off your low IQ. If what you are saying is true, then (which it is not) Vanderbilt would have far fewer than 50% of students submit test scores, which, by your standards, should make it a safety, but somehow it's more selective in your eyes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

My kid was accepted to 4 Ivies RD (this year) and outright rejected from Vanderbilt and Emory RD.
They are not safeties or targets for anyone RD.

Emory is absolutely a safety and target

for very top students, yes, though WL for yield protection happens. Top kids from top privates have to play the game and apply to the rare merit scholarships at Emory Vanderbilt and others and that helps a lot. Plus do app early.

You're replying to a troll. Emory is a Reach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

My kid was accepted to 4 Ivies RD (this year) and outright rejected from Vanderbilt and Emory RD.
They are not safeties or targets for anyone RD.

Emory is absolutely a safety and target

for very top students, yes, though WL for yield protection happens. Top kids from top privates have to play the game and apply to the rare merit scholarships at Emory Vanderbilt and others and that helps a lot. Plus do app early.

The tippy top student should apply to merit scholarships at Emory, Vanderbilt, WashU, etc. to overcome yield management. But would they really attend if they got the full tuition / full ride?

Yeild protection is not real. These schools take 50% plus of the class early. If you apply RD, it is a Reach, and always will be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

Im assuming you're the president and your child is applying right?

Safeties are high test optional schools.

Those arent high TO schools. Around 70% of Emory and Case students submit test scores. Only 50% of Vandy students submit. 60% of WashU students submit so wouldn't those be the safeties?

You’re defining safeties as those with a high percentage of students applying test optional? Is this serious or am I completely misunderstanding? Not an approach that will lead to a good outcome. You’re not looking at acceptance rates, or how your student’s GPA and test scores align with the profile of that school (is your student in the top 25% of those profiles etc), or Naviance data to see how your HS traditionally fares with those schools? Acceptance rate for Vanderbilt was under 5% this cycle - only 2.8% in RD. Just one example. Reach for all regardless of stats, as are so many schools listed in the comments.

I'm not some other guy, though. I'm saying if Emory is a safety because 70% submit scores, then Vandy is a safety because only 50% submit scores. NYU is worse, with only 25% submit scores. Yes, Vandy is an obvious reach, but not as selective as it seems, as so many don't submit test scores.

[Anonymous]

Holy Cross and Richmond would check off a lot of boxes. Both fun schools.

[Anonymous]

What is good safety for pre-med for top stats, UMass? Pitt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is good safety for pre-med for top stats, UMass? Pitt?

Case if they show demonstrated interest. Case is also good with merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

Im assuming you're the president and your child is applying right?

Safeties are high test optional schools.

Those arent high TO schools. Around 70% of Emory and Case students submit test scores. Only 50% of Vandy students submit. 60% of WashU students submit so wouldn't those be the safeties?

You’re defining safeties as those with a high percentage of students applying test optional? Is this serious or am I completely misunderstanding? Not an approach that will lead to a good outcome. You’re not looking at acceptance rates, or how your student’s GPA and test scores align with the profile of that school (is your student in the top 25% of those profiles etc), or Naviance data to see how your HS traditionally fares with those schools? Acceptance rate for Vanderbilt was under 5% this cycle - only 2.8% in RD. Just one example. Reach for all regardless of stats, as are so many schools listed in the comments.

I'm not some other guy, though. I'm saying if Emory is a safety because 70% submit scores, then Vandy is a safety because only 50% submit scores. NYU is worse, with only 25% submit scores. Yes, Vandy is an obvious reach, but not as selective as it seems, as so many don't submit test scores.

Please consider posting your DCs outcomes based on the above. Would be interested to know how it turns out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is good safety for pre-med for top stats, UMass? Pitt?

Case if they show demonstrated interest. Case is also good with merit.

Money matters here, too. No way is Case a safety who students who need financial aid.

[Anonymous]

For my kid, safeties were Providence, Holy Cross, Fordham, and UMD. Got into all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

Im assuming you're the president and your child is applying right?

Safeties are high test optional schools.

Those arent high TO schools. Around 70% of Emory and Case students submit test scores. Only 50% of Vandy students submit. 60% of WashU students submit so wouldn't those be the safeties?

You’re defining safeties as those with a high percentage of students applying test optional? Is this serious or am I completely misunderstanding? Not an approach that will lead to a good outcome. You’re not looking at acceptance rates, or how your student’s GPA and test scores align with the profile of that school (is your student in the top 25% of those profiles etc), or Naviance data to see how your HS traditionally fares with those schools? Acceptance rate for Vanderbilt was under 5% this cycle - only 2.8% in RD. Just one example. Reach for all regardless of stats, as are so many schools listed in the comments.

I'm not some other guy, though. I'm saying if Emory is a safety because 70% submit scores, then Vandy is a safety because only 50% submit scores. NYU is worse, with only 25% submit scores. Yes, Vandy is an obvious reach, but not as selective as it seems, as so many don't submit test scores.

Vandy is a reach for ANYONE ON THE PLANET in RD. It doesn't mean they accept the best and brightest but is is random. My kid submitted a 1580, got into 4 Ivies RD (and Duke!) and was outright rejected from Vandy RD. Fit the profile perfectly too: leader, athlete, outgoing, very social, from a feeder private, etc. It's just completely random when the admit rate is in the 2% range--regardless of scores, no scores, etc.
I can think of

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

Im assuming you're the president and your child is applying right?

Safeties are high test optional schools.

Those arent high TO schools. Around 70% of Emory and Case students submit test scores. Only 50% of Vandy students submit. 60% of WashU students submit so wouldn't those be the safeties?

You’re defining safeties as those with a high percentage of students applying test optional? Is this serious or am I completely misunderstanding? Not an approach that will lead to a good outcome. You’re not looking at acceptance rates, or how your student’s GPA and test scores align with the profile of that school (is your student in the top 25% of those profiles etc), or Naviance data to see how your HS traditionally fares with those schools? Acceptance rate for Vanderbilt was under 5% this cycle - only 2.8% in RD. Just one example. Reach for all regardless of stats, as are so many schools listed in the comments.

I'm not some other guy, though. I'm saying if Emory is a safety because 70% submit scores, then Vandy is a safety because only 50% submit scores. NYU is worse, with only 25% submit scores. Yes, Vandy is an obvious reach, but not as selective as it seems, as so many don't submit test scores.

Vandy is a reach for ANYONE ON THE PLANET in RD. It doesn't mean they accept the best and brightest but is is random. My kid submitted a 1580, got into 4 Ivies RD (and Duke!) and was outright rejected from Vandy RD. Fit the profile perfectly too: leader, athlete, outgoing, very social, from a feeder private, etc. It's just completely random when the admit rate is in the 2% range--regardless of scores, no scores, etc.
I can think of

Oops. Cut off my own post.
Meant to type: I can think of two other kids just like my son as well. And they applied as humanities majors!

[Anonymous]

Several students this year into ivys (mainly Cornell) but rejected from Emory. Emory is a Reach for everyone RD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Holy Cross and Richmond would check off a lot of boxes. Both fun schools.

What boxes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed. Currently
Reaches: Duke, Brown,
Target: WashU, Vanderbilt
Safeties: Emory, Case Western

My kid was accepted to 4 Ivies RD (this year) and outright rejected from Vanderbilt and Emory RD.
They are not safeties or targets for anyone RD.

Emory is absolutely a safety and target

for very top students, yes, though WL for yield protection happens. Top kids from top privates have to play the game and apply to the rare merit scholarships at Emory Vanderbilt and others and that helps a lot. Plus do app early.

You're replying to a troll. Emory is a Reach.