UChicago will offer free tuition for families with incomes below $250,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More posturing to keep pace with the other “elite” colleges. Meant to keep applications up and acceptance rates down.

From the recent 2021 U.S. Department of Education's IPEDS (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System) data.

Harvard University says its peers are: Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago
Yale University says its peers are: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Columbia
Princeton University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Penn, Chicago
Stanford University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley
Massachusetts Institute of Technology says its peers are: Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley, Michigan
University of Chicago says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Northwestern, Duke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of these claims assume "reasonable assets". We earn far below dc elite school school guarantee of free tuition but we were denied aid. Didn't expect full ride but assumed we would get some aid (yes we did npc). We are not an affluent family and both parents work in non-profit. Every school calculates differently. Home value in high cost of living area and savings made us ineligible.

+1. Not UChicago, but another school that guarantees free tuition. I was shocked that there was no in-between. My take-home pay is half the cost of yearly tuition, and we were offered nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you really need to reflect on why you turn every single Chicago thread into sniping about admissions practices. It is unwell behavior. It really isn’t normal at all.

Because it’s fun to expose the wannabe Karen Chicago moms.

No, see, this is the unwell behavior I was referring to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More posturing to keep pace with the other “elite” colleges. Meant to keep applications up and acceptance rates down.

From the recent 2021 U.S. Department of Education's IPEDS (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System) data.

Harvard University says its peers are: Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago
Yale University says its peers are: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Columbia
Princeton University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Penn, Chicago
Stanford University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley
Massachusetts Institute of Technology says its peers are: Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley, Michigan
University of Chicago says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Northwestern, Duke

This crazy idiot can’t comprehend what undergraduate ranking is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UChicago doesn't consider home equity in financial aid decisions.

So then all this talk about how Chicago weasels out under "typical assets" is bullshit?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Confused how this is a bad thing. HYP are praised for this while Chicago is criticized? Make it make sense.

My sense is that this board really doesn't like the gamesmanship Chicago engages in.

Chicago is a top 10 school that behaves like its Northeastern.

It’s not top 10. No top schools would manipulate the admissions game that much. It screams lack of confidence.

My kid is applying next year and I would put Chicago up there with mid ivy like Columbia and Penn. Probably top 10 or close enough

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is great news but of course you have to read the fine print. Hopefully all other elite schools will follow suit.

Actually, Chicago is following other elite schools.

They are not the first with this idea.

And honestly, rather than doing this, why not just lower tuition by $20,000 for everyone?

250,000 is already quite wealthy. Most of the families will fall below this threshold, which means a very small number of families will be paying their over inflated tuition while others have zero skin in the game

So scholarship kids have zero skin in the game? that's a weird take.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is not considered an Ivy Plus college by Harvard, Yale or Princeton.

UChicago is.

For graduate programs, maybe. But no way for undergraduate. It’s just not a top 10.

lol...is Harvard in on some conspiracy?

https://library.harvard.edu/visit/visitor-access-borrowing-cards
Our partnership with BorrowDirect allows physical access to our libraries to affiliates of fellow Ivy Plus institutions: Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Duke University, Johns Hopkins University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Princeton University, Stanford University, University of Chicago, University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University.

How laughable to use Ivy Plus library access as proof of prestige. That is like saying students from two schools can use the same vending machine, so what? BorrowDirect is a library access agreement. That is all. And in 2026, when so much academic material is digital anyway, using library access as a prestige signal is absurd.

The way simpletons reason is honestly ridiculous.

DP The Ivy+ inclusion isn't meaningless but Dartmouth is also Ivy+ and nobody thinks they are top 10.
Chicago might be top 10 but Ivy+ doesn't get you all the way there. It's almost certainly top 20.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is not considered an Ivy Plus college by Harvard, Yale or Princeton.

UChicago is.

For graduate programs, maybe. But no way for undergraduate. It’s just not a top 10.

lol...is Harvard in on some conspiracy?

https://library.harvard.edu/visit/visitor-access-borrowing-cards
Our partnership with BorrowDirect allows physical access to our libraries to affiliates of fellow Ivy Plus institutions: Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Duke University, Johns Hopkins University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Princeton University, Stanford University, University of Chicago, University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University.

How laughable to use Ivy Plus library access as proof of prestige. That is like saying students from two schools can use the same vending machine, so what? BorrowDirect is a library access agreement. That is all. And in 2026, when so much academic material is digital anyway, using library access as a prestige signal is absurd.

The way simpletons reason is honestly ridiculous.

NP. The Ivy Plus Libraries consortium isn’t some holy list but it’s not like they’re just including any university in that group. You have to be deemed an “Ivy Plus” to be a member but I understand that probably upsets the Northwestern moms. Not something to get super worked up about regardless because Chicago doesn’t need to cling to the “Ivy Plus” label to hold its own.

NP. I am not a “Northwestern mom", and I don't think PP is necessarily one either. But the “Northwestern moms” line is funny, because Northwestern has a much larger endowment, stronger finances, and plenty of its own institutional prestige.

The people clinging hardest to the Ivy "+" label are usually the ones trying to use it as a substitute for more substantive arguments. Desparate!

Most of the arguments here seem to be about anonymous poster's IQs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More posturing to keep pace with the other “elite” colleges. Meant to keep applications up and acceptance rates down.

From the recent 2021 U.S. Department of Education's IPEDS (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System) data.

Harvard University says its peers are: Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago
Yale University says its peers are: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Columbia
Princeton University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Penn, Chicago
Stanford University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley
Massachusetts Institute of Technology says its peers are: Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley, Michigan
University of Chicago says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Northwestern, Duke

This is pretty convincing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More posturing to keep pace with the other “elite” colleges. Meant to keep applications up and acceptance rates down.

From the recent 2021 U.S. Department of Education's IPEDS (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System) data.

Harvard University says its peers are: Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago
Yale University says its peers are: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Columbia
Princeton University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Penn, Chicago
Stanford University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley
Massachusetts Institute of Technology says its peers are: Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley, Michigan
University of Chicago says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Northwestern, Duke

This is pretty convincing.

It should be. The people on this ignorant hellsite won’t let universities’ own opinion of their peers get in the way though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More posturing to keep pace with the other “elite” colleges. Meant to keep applications up and acceptance rates down.

From the recent 2021 U.S. Department of Education's IPEDS (Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System) data.

Harvard University says its peers are: Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago
Yale University says its peers are: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Columbia
Princeton University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Penn, Chicago
Stanford University says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley
Massachusetts Institute of Technology says its peers are: Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Caltech, Chicago, Berkeley, Michigan
University of Chicago says its peers are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Northwestern, Duke

This crazy idiot can’t comprehend what undergraduate ranking is.

DP

https://nces.ed.gov/IPEDS/DFR/2024/ReportHTML.aspx?unitid=166027 - Harvard
https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/dfr/2024/ReportHTML.aspx?unitId=130794 - Yale
https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/dfr/2024/ReportHTML.aspx?unitId=186131 - Princeton
https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/dfr/2024/ReportHTML.aspx?unitId=243744 - Stanford
https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/dfr/2024/ReportHTML.aspx?unitId=166683 - MIT

HYP list Chicago Stanford and MIT do not

Only 6 schools are on all lists.
HYPSM + Cornell.
I think it's because of Cornell Engineering gets it onto MIT's list, the shortest list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confused how this is a bad thing. HYP are praised for this while Chicago is criticized? Make it make sense.

My sense is that this board really doesn't like the gamesmanship Chicago engages in.

Chicago is a top 10 school that behaves like its Northeastern.

It’s not top 10. No top schools would manipulate the admissions game that much. It screams lack of confidence.

My kid is applying next year and I would put Chicago up there with mid ivy like Columbia and Penn.

NP. Please, please do your kid a favor and let him build his own college list. Do not let your stupid ego turn his college process into your personal “prestige” project. Trust me, there isn't much prestige left in that. He is the one going to college, not you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UChicago doesn't consider home equity in financial aid decisions.

So then all this talk about how Chicago weasels out under "typical assets" is bullshit?

Indeed. This forum has a few psychos who can’t get through a thread without steering it in the course of bashing mayhem about admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deal with it, you all need to stop, this is a private institution and can do what they want. If you don't like it, send your kid to UMD or UMass or whatever. Enough whining already.

They are allowed to do whatever they want and we are allowed to complain about it as much as we want so stop with your useless comments