AAP and tutors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

+1

Really, why are you all showing dcmum to elementary aged kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having been through this once with an older 2E kid — first, AAP is not all that. AoPS for math is so much more rigorous and interesting for math-inclined kids that whatever they do at school becomes almost irrelevant. Second, AAP is not a path to a great college. Kids like my oldest can barely manage a full high school schedule despite years of gifted support. The high-achieving kids with strong executive functioning skills who didn't quite make AAP are still going to end up ahead in high school, college, and most likely, life.

My youngest is one of those kids — we barely got her into AAP because we prepped her for the test. She's bright, just not a math whiz like my older child. And she's a 10x better student. The difference is night and day. I don't regret prepping her to get into AAP — she's succeeding and will continue to succeed in the program because she's engaged, self-driven, and wants to win at school.

OF course you don't regret prepping her, SHE GOT INTO AAP.... isn't that why you prepped her? and that's wonderful she is succeeding, and winning at school, its because you got her the supports she needed. If you prepped her, and she didn't get into AAP, how would you feel then?

[Anonymous]

AAP is already so watered down from all these prepped kids and disgruntled parents getting their kids in on multiple appeals. If your child is struggling in AAP and requires outside help, then they shouldn't be there in the first place. It's that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how school becomes ‘not challenging enough’ right after parents outsource half the math curriculum to RSM or Mathnasium.

Maybe your child isn’t ‘unchallenged.’ Maybe you paid to spoil the plot and now you’re complaining the movie is predictable.

We waited until third grade. He was ahead before we started RSM. Believe it or not, ES math is not hard for kids who grasp math concepts quickly. There are plenty of kids behind and at grade level but there are kids who find it easy.

I have a kid who qualified for MOP (Math Olympiad), I understand. He never complained about "not challenging enough".

People here start foaming at the mouth about kid not being challenged. If the kid is good in math, they would find a way to make it challenging even at school, all by themselves.

. That depends greatly on the teacher. My kids have had some teachers who allowed them to bring in AoPS stuff or other challenging, worthwhile materials. They've also had some teachers who forced them to use STMath or do other busywork when they finished the assigned work. My kids have had no problems with boredom when the teachers were willing to give them some agency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

What’s worse than any “snobby AAP kid” is the bitter parent commentary that shows up every time AAP is mentioned. The kids aren’t the problem here — the adults badmouthing them are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

What’s worse than any “snobby AAP kid” is the bitter parent commentary that shows up every time AAP is mentioned. The kids aren’t the problem here — the adults badmouthing them are.

Venting on an anonymous online forum iof adults s not the same as snobby aap kids and parents bullying non full time kids in real life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

What’s worse than any “snobby AAP kid” is the bitter parent commentary that shows up every time AAP is mentioned. The kids aren’t the problem here — the adults badmouthing them are.

Venting on an anonymous online forum iof adults s not the same as snobby aap kids and parents bullying non full time kids in real life

What a world we live in where now the nerds are also the bullies! Or all kids can be mean about any number of things and this one you are complaining about likely never happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

What’s worse than any “snobby AAP kid” is the bitter parent commentary that shows up every time AAP is mentioned. The kids aren’t the problem here — the adults badmouthing them are.

Venting on an anonymous online forum iof adults s not the same as snobby aap kids and parents bullying non full time kids in real life

What a world we live in where now the nerds are also the bullies! Or all kids can be mean about any number of things and this one you are complaining about likely never happens.

It's not that simple. AAP draws a pretty arbitrary line through the "bright kid" cohort, with half labeled AAP and told that they're special and need to be bused to a different school to learn and the other half labeled gen ed. Both halves are pretty indistinguishable. Kids and sometimes their parents don't know how to process this, and it's not uncommon for a kid in AAP to think that they're much smarter than any gen ed kid, simply because they're in AAP and the other kid isn't. My gen ed kid got bullied for being "dumb" by AAP kids who actually had lower test scores than mine. It does happen a lot more than people might imagine, because young kids don't fully understand why they were picked for AAP and other bright kids weren't, and they don't have the best verbal filters at that age. A lot of the parents contribute to this, because they truly believe that their kid was admitted to AAP because their kid is somehow special and not because their kid is lucky.

If you have an AAP kid who needs tutors, that's fine. You should do whatever is appropriate to maximize your kid's educational outcome. But, do so with a little bit of introspection and self honesty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

What’s worse than any “snobby AAP kid” is the bitter parent commentary that shows up every time AAP is mentioned. The kids aren’t the problem here — the adults badmouthing them are.

Venting on an anonymous online forum iof adults s not the same as snobby aap kids and parents bullying non full time kids in real life

What a world we live in where now the nerds are also the bullies! Or all kids can be mean about any number of things and this one you are complaining about likely never happens.

Right, probably only happens to my kids then.
It was so bad that my kid who has all As in honors wasn't sure if they should still take honors next year
And, I'm sure the full time aap kids who are the ones doing the bulling aren't the ones with straight a's

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AAP 6th grader family. Had to start Mathnasium in December because DD started to fall behind in class.

My DD feels better about her math competency and she feels like she did very well on the SOL and got to the Geometry portion of it.

But then, I showed her all the wise comments here on DCU Mom and now she feels like we failed her as a family by getting math support for her.

Whichever posters said AAP kid should not need tutors or outside enrichment were so right. And now that I think about it, AAP should not require any additional support at all, in any subject ever! So happy being in the program immediately absolves us parents from any further responsibility whatsoever of helping our kids outside of school anymore! -What a fresh take!

Clearly, some people think the one-size-fits-all approach to education applies to AAP. 🙄

I'm glad she's getting tutoring. I couldn't care less about which kids are getting tutoring. Instead, I care about which kids are causing the teacher to water down the class for everyone else. Your DD is no longer slowing down the rest of the class, so that's great!

I hope you and your DD appreciate, though, that she's fortunate to be in AAP math, and that quite a lot of kids in gen ed would do at least as well if they had been given the opportunity. IME, even the AAP kids who were getting tutoring or struggling in a subject were still snobby about being in AAP and being better than the gen ed kids.

So true!

What’s worse than any “snobby AAP kid” is the bitter parent commentary that shows up every time AAP is mentioned. The kids aren’t the problem here — the adults badmouthing them are.

Venting on an anonymous online forum iof adults s not the same as snobby aap kids and parents bullying non full time kids in real life

What a world we live in where now the nerds are also the bullies! Or all kids can be mean about any number of things and this one you are complaining about likely never happens.

It's not that simple. AAP draws a pretty arbitrary line through the "bright kid" cohort, with half labeled AAP and told that they're special and need to be bused to a different school to learn and the other half labeled gen ed. Both halves are pretty indistinguishable. Kids and sometimes their parents don't know how to process this, and it's not uncommon for a kid in AAP to think that they're much smarter than any gen ed kid, simply because they're in AAP and the other kid isn't. My gen ed kid got bullied for being "dumb" by AAP kids who actually had lower test scores than mine. It does happen a lot more than people might imagine, because young kids don't fully understand why they were picked for AAP and other bright kids weren't, and they don't have the best verbal filters at that age. A lot of the parents contribute to this, because they truly believe that their kid was admitted to AAP because their kid is somehow special and not because their kid is lucky.

If you have an AAP kid who needs tutors, that's fine. You should do whatever is appropriate to maximize your kid's educational outcome. But, do so with a little bit of introspection and self honesty.

This. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

PP how did you know what the AAP kid’s test score was?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP how did you know what the AAP kid’s test score was?

DP...maybe this is just a center school thing ..but so many people talk about their test scores. I never ask, and I try to walk away from these conversations, but I seem to know several
They also humble brag about their kids academic struggles