AAP and tutors

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

My kid was in Advanced Math and did attend RSM. He was in the honors class a grade level ahead so he would be challenged. And he did the math competition class. He dropped the grade level class when he got to Algebra because he already knew the subject, thanks to math competition class, and we did not see the point in his taking the Algebra 2 class. Anyone whose kid is in the honors class at RSM is 100% learning material that is not taught in FCPS. If they are at RSM and they are not in the honors class, that is a different story. Mathnasium is most likely for kids who are struggling or working to stay on pace for their class. I know a few people have posted about their kid being ahead in mathnasium but that is rare.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

Is RSM or Mathnasium going to put them ahead of grade level math? I don;t know much about these two programs.

RSM does. My child was recommended to be moved up a grade year every year. They are more reluctant to do it when you are in 6th grade and the next class is Algebra, I am not sure why that is.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

Is RSM or Mathnasium going to put them ahead of grade level math? I don;t know much about these two programs.

Neither does pp.

You are wrong, my kid was moved up a grade year at RSM. It does happen. He tested into the honors class when he started at rSM and a month later they moved him up a grade level. The benefit to programs like RSM is that they will match your kids needs in terms of pacing. At least, they did through ES. They were reluctant in 6th grade to move him into Algebra and that is when we stopped the regular classes. He continued with the math competition program.

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You do realize you pay RSM… like they are not a nonprofit there to help your child. I’m not saying that they don’t teach good material or are not a fantastic form of enrichment. I’ve sent all my kids there. But just bear in mind that you write them a check, so their evaluation of your child is not unbiased.

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Id love to take a poll of how well students do on standardized testing for students who go to RSM/tutoring and for those who do not. Does this truly help with advancement?

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize you pay RSM… like they are not a nonprofit there to help your child. I’m not saying that they don’t teach good material or are not a fantastic form of enrichment. I’ve sent all my kids there. But just bear in mind that you write them a check, so their evaluation of your child is not unbiased.

Yes, you do pay them. And they place most kids in the lowest level when they start at the program and move them up or down based on how they are performing. We have friends whose kid intentionally placed in the 6th grade class as a 7th grader because he was in Math 7H and they did not belong in the Algebra class most 7th graders at RSM take.

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Anonymous wrote:Id love to take a poll of how well students do on standardized testing for students who go to RSM/tutoring and for those who do not. Does this truly help with advancement?

I would hope that it helps if a kid is struggling and attends RSM or tutoring in order to gain a better grasp of the material.

We love RSM because it provides a challenge for my math loving kid. He loves the math competition program and the various math competitions he does, some as a part of the RSM team and many with his Mathcounts club at MS. We didn't send him to RSM for advancement, we sent him because he was bored and loved math, he wanted to be challenged.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

Is RSM or Mathnasium going to put them ahead of grade level math? I don;t know much about these two programs.

Neither does pp.

You are wrong, my kid was moved up a grade year at RSM. It does happen. He tested into the honors class when he started at rSM and a month later they moved him up a grade level. The benefit to programs like RSM is that they will match your kids needs in terms of pacing. At least, they did through ES. They were reluctant in 6th grade to move him into Algebra and that is when we stopped the regular classes. He continued with the math competition program.

Your child is being tutored in the math competition class at RSM? It's tutoring and not enrichment?

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Anonymous wrote:Id love to take a poll of how well students do on standardized testing for students who go to RSM/tutoring and for those who do not. Does this truly help with advancement?

I would hope that it helps if a kid is struggling and attends RSM or tutoring in order to gain a better grasp of the material.

Then they should not be in AAP if they are struggling and needs RSM/tutoring for better grasp.

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Funny how school becomes ‘not challenging enough’ right after parents outsource half the math curriculum to RSM or Mathnasium.

Maybe your child isn’t ‘unchallenged.’ Maybe you paid to spoil the plot and now you’re complaining the movie is predictable.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how school becomes ‘not challenging enough’ right after parents outsource half the math curriculum to RSM or Mathnasium.

Maybe your child isn’t ‘unchallenged.’ Maybe you paid to spoil the plot and now you’re complaining the movie is predictable.

We waited until third grade. He was ahead before we started RSM. Believe it or not, ES math is not hard for kids who grasp math concepts quickly. There are plenty of kids behind and at grade level but there are kids who find it easy.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

Is RSM or Mathnasium going to put them ahead of grade level math? I don;t know much about these two programs.

Neither does pp.

You are wrong, my kid was moved up a grade year at RSM. It does happen. He tested into the honors class when he started at rSM and a month later they moved him up a grade level. The benefit to programs like RSM is that they will match your kids needs in terms of pacing. At least, they did through ES. They were reluctant in 6th grade to move him into Algebra and that is when we stopped the regular classes. He continued with the math competition program.

Your child is being tutored in the math competition class at RSM? It's tutoring and not enrichment?

Math competition is not tutoring, it has nothing to do with how math is taught or tested. They also cover material that is advanced. He was exposed to Algebra and Geometry long before he took the classes. The subjects appear on tests like the AMCs, which he took starting in 6th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

Is RSM or Mathnasium going to put them ahead of grade level math? I don;t know much about these two programs.

Neither does pp.

You are wrong, my kid was moved up a grade year at RSM. It does happen. He tested into the honors class when he started at rSM and a month later they moved him up a grade level. The benefit to programs like RSM is that they will match your kids needs in terms of pacing. At least, they did through ES. They were reluctant in 6th grade to move him into Algebra and that is when we stopped the regular classes. He continued with the math competition program.

Your child is being tutored in the math competition class at RSM? It's tutoring and not enrichment?

Math competition is not tutoring, it has nothing to do with how math is taught or tested. They also cover material that is advanced. He was exposed to Algebra and Geometry long before he took the classes. The subjects appear on tests like the AMCs, which he took starting in 6th grade.

You wrote in regards to RSM that, "Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring." I assumed that this person does not know much about the program, and responded with such a comment. You responded to my comment saying I am wrong about you--the poster mocking RSM as"enrichment--and wrote that your child does competition math.

If you have a child who does competition math, and you believe that competition math has nothing to do with how math is taught or tested, why make a mocking comment about other parents who send their kids to RSM for "enrichment and not tutoring."

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how school becomes ‘not challenging enough’ right after parents outsource half the math curriculum to RSM or Mathnasium.

Maybe your child isn’t ‘unchallenged.’ Maybe you paid to spoil the plot and now you’re complaining the movie is predictable.

We waited until third grade. He was ahead before we started RSM. Believe it or not, ES math is not hard for kids who grasp math concepts quickly. There are plenty of kids behind and at grade level but there are kids who find it easy.

I have a kid who qualified for MOP (Math Olympiad), I understand. He never complained about "not challenging enough".

People here start foaming at the mouth about kid not being challenged. If the kid is good in math, they would find a way to make it challenging even at school, all by themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is not in AAP and has a tutor - a lot of her friends who are in AAP's parents have asked for her name! Most of her friends that are in AAP either have a tutor or are in some sort of math program like RSM or Mathnasium. Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring

Is RSM or Mathnasium going to put them ahead of grade level math? I don;t know much about these two programs.

Neither does pp.

You are wrong, my kid was moved up a grade year at RSM. It does happen. He tested into the honors class when he started at rSM and a month later they moved him up a grade level. The benefit to programs like RSM is that they will match your kids needs in terms of pacing. At least, they did through ES. They were reluctant in 6th grade to move him into Algebra and that is when we stopped the regular classes. He continued with the math competition program.

Your child is being tutored in the math competition class at RSM? It's tutoring and not enrichment?

Math competition is not tutoring, it has nothing to do with how math is taught or tested. They also cover material that is advanced. He was exposed to Algebra and Geometry long before he took the classes. The subjects appear on tests like the AMCs, which he took starting in 6th grade.

You wrote in regards to RSM that, "Of course, their parents will tell you it's for "enrichment" and not tutoring." I assumed that this person does not know much about the program, and responded with such a comment. You responded to my comment saying I am wrong about you--the poster mocking RSM as"enrichment--and wrote that your child does competition math.

If you have a child who does competition math, and you believe that competition math has nothing to do with how math is taught or tested, why make a mocking comment about other parents who send their kids to RSM for "enrichment and not tutoring."

You do realize that there are multiple people posting, right?

I would say kids in the first two levels are there because they need support. The kids in honors and math competition are more likely there for enrichment. That material is not the same as at school.