Cash for teacher appreciation week

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

But it's a HCOL area for families, too. Why is there a presumption that parents have extra cash on hand but that teachers are always strapped for cash. It's simply not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

What does this mean? This retired daycare worker was leaving kids in dirty diapers if she thought their parents were slackers? This is a crazy statement.

It means if its 4:50, and pickup is at 5, and your kid has a wet diaper, the kid next to him has a snotty nose and the kid next to HIM has spit up on himself, the one who is getting attention is the one who the teacher perceives the parents are going to notice the most/care the most. If you sent your kid with a wet diaper they will return your kid with a wet diaper and change the kid who was sent in clean clothes into clean clothes.

But what does that have to do with giving cash or gift cards in thank you notes.

The equivalent of what you're talking about for elementary school kids would be kids whose parents make sure they get their homework done, are well rested and fed before arriving at school, arrive on time, etc. And to be honest, my impression at the elementary level is that teacher correctly do the opposite of what you are suggesting. Instead of providing preferential treatment to the kid who quite obviously has well-resourced parents and lots of support at home, the teachers seem to be more likely to take the extra moment to help the kid who probably isn't getting as much attention or support at home. Because the supported kid probably will be okay without the extra attention.

In any case, a teacher who decides to give extra attention to children literally based on whether and much money they give them in thank you notes is probably a bad teacher in multiple ways, not just with their rampant favoritism and money grubbing behavior. So I guess I don't care if they give special treatment to my kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

So… writing that I don’t require cards, gifts, or even appreciation makes me entitled? Okay. We clearly have different definitions.

And did I compare my job to others? No, I did not. I don’t know others’ jobs, so I wouldn’t make presumptions. That’s RESPECT. I simply corrected somebody else’s assumption about MY job, and I’d do it again.

See: I asked for basic respect and it was too hard for you to give. That’s why I hate these threads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

And stop sock puppetinh

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

So… writing that I don’t require cards, gifts, or even appreciation makes me entitled? Okay. We clearly have different definitions.

And did I compare my job to others? No, I did not. I don’t know others’ jobs, so I wouldn’t make presumptions. That’s RESPECT. I simply corrected somebody else’s assumption about MY job, and I’d do it again.

See: I asked for basic respect and it was too hard for you to give. That’s why I hate these threads.

“Respect” doesn’t mean going along with your make-believe version of reality. No one forces you onto these threads to hear the truth. Believing people must adhere to your fantasy is, in fact, entitled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

And stop sock puppetinh

You know this is easily checked, right? Ask Jeff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

So… writing that I don’t require cards, gifts, or even appreciation makes me entitled? Okay. We clearly have different definitions.

And did I compare my job to others? No, I did not. I don’t know others’ jobs, so I wouldn’t make presumptions. That’s RESPECT. I simply corrected somebody else’s assumption about MY job, and I’d do it again.

See: I asked for basic respect and it was too hard for you to give. That’s why I hate these threads.

“Respect” doesn’t mean going along with your make-believe version of reality. No one forces you onto these threads to hear the truth. Believing people must adhere to your fantasy is, in fact, entitled.

Just so I understand: my work hours are “make believe” because they don’t fit with your “reality” that teachers don’t work hard? I am requiring people to adhere to my “fantasy” that teaching can take long hours? I’m “entitled” because I, as the teacher, corrected someone who thinks they know my job… when they don’t?

Thank you for illustrating my point. I don’t ask for thanks, money, gift cards, or higher pay. I ask for quiet respect, which in this case simply looks like not misrepresenting my job. Thank you for illustrating why teachers so often hate these threads.

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary. Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

So… writing that I don’t require cards, gifts, or even appreciation makes me entitled? Okay. We clearly have different definitions.

And did I compare my job to others? No, I did not. I don’t know others’ jobs, so I wouldn’t make presumptions. That’s RESPECT. I simply corrected somebody else’s assumption about MY job, and I’d do it again.

See: I asked for basic respect and it was too hard for you to give. That’s why I hate these threads.

“Respect” doesn’t mean going along with your make-believe version of reality. No one forces you onto these threads to hear the truth. Believing people must adhere to your fantasy is, in fact, entitled.

Just so I understand: my work hours are “make believe” because they don’t fit with your “reality” that teachers don’t work hard? I am requiring people to adhere to my “fantasy” that teaching can take long hours? I’m “entitled” because I, as the teacher, corrected someone who thinks they know my job… when they don’t?

Thank you for illustrating my point. I don’t ask for thanks, money, gift cards, or higher pay. I ask for quiet respect, which in this case simply looks like not misrepresenting my job. Thank you for illustrating why teachers so often hate these threads.

These threads are for parents. It isn’t important if teachers hate them.

No one said teachers don’t have long hours. They said long hours are extremely common and teachers have more vacation than others working long hours. That’s true. Defining “respect” as pretending they don’t is entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary.

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

So… writing that I don’t require cards, gifts, or even appreciation makes me entitled? Okay. We clearly have different definitions.

And did I compare my job to others? No, I did not. I don’t know others’ jobs, so I wouldn’t make presumptions. That’s RESPECT. I simply corrected somebody else’s assumption about MY job, and I’d do it again.

See: I asked for basic respect and it was too hard for you to give. That’s why I hate these threads.

“Respect” doesn’t mean going along with your make-believe version of reality. No one forces you onto these threads to hear the truth. Believing people must adhere to your fantasy is, in fact, entitled.

Just so I understand: my work hours are “make believe” because they don’t fit with your “reality” that teachers don’t work hard? I am requiring people to adhere to my “fantasy” that teaching can take long hours? I’m “entitled” because I, as the teacher, corrected someone who thinks they know my job… when they don’t?

Thank you for illustrating my point. I don’t ask for thanks, money, gift cards, or higher pay. I ask for quiet respect, which in this case simply looks like not misrepresenting my job. Thank you for illustrating why teachers so often hate these threads.

These threads are for parents. It isn’t important if teachers hate them.

No one said teachers don’t have long hours. They said long hours are extremely common and teachers have more vacation than others working long hours. That’s true. Defining “respect” as pretending they don’t is entitled.

This is what was posted upthread:

“Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope”

All I did was state that statement is untrue. And guess what? That statement ISN’T TRUE! You really want to tell me I work “far fewer hours” than “any other job”? Really? And I don’t work harder than “anyone” else? And “the entire summer”‘off… to pay for my own recertification classes and do free curriculum writing?

So don’t tell me that this is what respect looks like. Because it’s not.

Here’s what respect would have looked like:
“I’m sorry. I wrote that in frustration. I’m sure teachers work hard, too.”

That would have been a stretch though, right? To show a modicum of respect to a teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

I’m not offended but I would just remind you that other kids in your kids class are still gifting cash/cards.

Teachers are human. One piece of advice I was given when my daughter started daycare (from a retired daycare provider) was always make sure to send your kid with a dry diaper, clean clothes, and a washed face. Because if a teacher has time to wash one face or change one diaper, they will pick the kid whose parent is on top of that. That same logic underpins my decision about who gets financial appreciation.

So the cash/gift card is a bribe to ensure my child gets necessary care and attention at school? Does amount make a difference too? So the parent who sends $50 in cash will get better "service" fir their kid than the one who sends a $5 gift card?

So it's like tipping so the waiter doesn't spit in your food.

Yes. I don’t understand why school administrators even allow this. It’s insane. I’m not even allowed to give cash, gift cards, or gifts to my kids’ sleepaway camp counselors at the end of session. Yet teachers that make above national average, for far fewer hours and every single holiday off, can accept cash and gifts from families?

People do realize that they make above the national average because this is a HCOL area, right? It's not like they're taking that $74k back to Tuscaloosa each night and living like kings.

The point is they have a fair salary.

I’m a teacher, and I’m going to be honest: you are WAY off on your assessment of my job.

I regularly work over 60 hours a week, reaching 70 if I recently assigned an essay. I stay home on weekends and work while my husband entertains my kids. And the summer? I’m attending trainings, working on curriculum writing, or prepping for the next year…. all for free since I don’t get paid for summer months.

I’m not complaining about my pay, but I will certainly speak up when somebody misrepresents my job. I earn every penny with hard work that some people (apparently) aren’t even aware teachers do.

And that’s why I don’t like this thread: I don’t want cash or gift cards because I don’t want this sort of debate to start… whether teachers are “worth it” or should get appreciation.

You know what I really want? Just to be respected for the job I do. That’s all. I don’t even need a thanks for doing my job; just don’t misrepresent my profession.

DP. Nothing you said refutes the point of the poster above you. You don’t work any harder than any other professional working more than 40 hours a week making $90,000 or less. And there are thousands of them, especially in this town.

You do, however, sound a lot more entitled.

So… writing that I don’t require cards, gifts, or even appreciation makes me entitled? Okay. We clearly have different definitions.

And did I compare my job to others? No, I did not. I don’t know others’ jobs, so I wouldn’t make presumptions. That’s RESPECT. I simply corrected somebody else’s assumption about MY job, and I’d do it again.

See: I asked for basic respect and it was too hard for you to give. That’s why I hate these threads.

“Respect” doesn’t mean going along with your make-believe version of reality. No one forces you onto these threads to hear the truth. Believing people must adhere to your fantasy is, in fact, entitled.

Just so I understand: my work hours are “make believe” because they don’t fit with your “reality” that teachers don’t work hard? I am requiring people to adhere to my “fantasy” that teaching can take long hours? I’m “entitled” because I, as the teacher, corrected someone who thinks they know my job… when they don’t?

Thank you for illustrating my point. I don’t ask for thanks, money, gift cards, or higher pay. I ask for quiet respect, which in this case simply looks like not misrepresenting my job. Thank you for illustrating why teachers so often hate these threads.

These threads are for parents. It isn’t important if teachers hate them.

No one said teachers don’t have long hours. They said long hours are extremely common and teachers have more vacation than others working long hours. That’s true. Defining “respect” as pretending they don’t is entitled.

This is what was posted upthread:

“Especially considering it is far fewer hours worked than any other job. They have the entire summer and every holiday off for days/week at a time. Plenty of people with degrees are making 90k or less and have to work over 40 hrs per week, all year long, with maybe 2 weeks vacation. Teachers dont work harder than anyone else. Few are actually making and teaching their own lessons and material. So no, I don’t feel compelled to leave them cash in an envelope”

All I did was state that statement is untrue. And guess what? That statement ISN’T TRUE! You really want to tell me I work “far fewer hours” than “any other job”? Really? And I don’t work harder than “anyone” else? And “the entire summer”‘off… to pay for my own recertification classes and do free curriculum writing?

So don’t tell me that this is what respect looks like. Because it’s not.

Here’s what respect would have looked like:
“I’m sorry. I wrote that in frustration. I’m sure teachers work hard, too.”

That would have been a stretch though, right? To show a modicum of respect to a teacher?

I am not the poster who wrote it and you’re not going to like it but: it is true.

It’s not disrespect for someone to point it out. Most jobs that pay what teaching does demand 50 weeks a year and start with two weeks PTO. Teachers don’t work harder than anyone else.

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It is interesting to read all these responses. In our DCPS, people donate insane amounts of money for class gifts. One of our teachers was going on a medical leave, and he received $600 as a gift. I thought it was insane but clearly I am in minority in our DCPS. I wish it was appropriate to give a box of chocolates and flowers and a card. Why money? This is such a tip culture mentality.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we doing teacher appreciation week gifts now? I thought we saved gifts until the last week of school?

Don’t you know? Moms have to EARN Mother’s DAY by spending the entire week before doing Teacher Appreciation WEEK. Multiple handwritten cards, gift cards and more, including instructions on each teacher’s favorite color, flower, candy, restaurant, etc. Don’t forget to do all of this emotional labor and recognition of others for a full week, on top of everything else you have to do, so you can earn one day of rest.

Yeesh. Tell your husband to pick up a gift card on the way home from work and put down the cross.

I'm a room parent and I'm not doing any of that. I'm having my daughter make a card from construction paper and paper clipping a Starbucks gift card inside. Our teacher will appreciate both and my emotional labor meter is on NBD.

I’m a room parent too for all of my kids. You don’t have to volunteer to be room parent if it’s too much work. Another parent with more bandwidth can take it on or you could share duties. Makes for a better experience for everyone — yourself, the class and the teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:I make less than my kid's teachers. We are in DCPS and teachers are well compensated here compared to other places. Are they well compensated compared to doctors and lawyers? No, but neither am I (I'm a librarian, spouse is in public service similar to teaching). Yes, this area is expensive. Guess what, it's expensive for me, too.

I actually still gave teachers gift cards the first few years because it felt compulsory. But I stopped, because it makes no sense. I write heartfelt thank you notes to teachers. That is gratitude. I also pay my taxes, which I think entitled my kid to public school without an obligation to "tip" teachers.

If this offends you, me don't care.

This is perfectly fine. Give what you can. Teachers don’t want families to be financially strapped.