40% of 4th graders cannot read in 2026

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The statistics are far worse than this. Reading proficiency for 8th and 12th graders are terrible too, with only around 30-35% kids at or above proficiency levels. Don’t blame Covid. Schools have literally forgotten how to teach the most basic subjects. Schools have abandoned expectations and moved focus from reading, arithmetic, writing, grammar, science and history to various other content they use no business teaching
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Anonymous wrote:Math proficiency scores also dropped. The decline began with the widespread use of tech in schools, around 2012-2013. Of course scores dropped more sharply for reading and math because of Covid, but the decline began well before.



And by tech, I don't mean pencils, macbook computers, smart boards, or even Chromebook usage among 7th-12th graders. I'm talking about iPads in K-2, ubiquitous wireless internet in all classrooms and school spaces K-12, and "learning apps" aimed toward preK and elementary school learners.


If the students in the lower grades are only using Chrome books that would be a problem. A Chrome supplement in addition to math classes using paper and pencil are helpful.


https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/A19DF2E8-3C69-4193-A676-430CF0C83DC2

There is a DIRECT relationship between increased tech use and decreases in cognition.
You need to know how the brain works to teach it properly. And tech is not it.

Tech is too distracting.


If you’re reading a book I understand how important it is to read it on paper. I can’t imagine too many schools not using real books. But supplementing by using Chromebooks for exercises to verify the student comprehended it is smart. The student submits her answers directly and easily.



I wish I were kidding, but the books my middle schooler is assigned to “read” as part of the curriculum are actually played on audio in the class- because kids either won’t or can’t read them
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Anonymous wrote:Now go figure out what states those kids are in. I bet you all of the majoritiy are in RED STATES. Because when you consistently defund education over decades in favor of fighting to ensure the 0.6 transgender kids in your state can't play soccer, you end up with 4th graders who can't read.


LCPS is in a blue state. My students in 9 and 10 grades have OBNOXIOUS spelling errors. Their punctuation is nonexistent.

What’s the excuse?


Are you talking about your students? It’s your job to continue with grammar, punctuation and spelling. Their spelling and grammar aren’t flawless just because they are in 9th grade.


DP and in a different district. It’s true. My teen’s 10th grade honors English class syllabus specifically stated students are required to use capitalization and punctuation in all sentences for written or typed papers. WTF. What is going on in schools?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we can blame parents. It’s not fair to expect parents to spend an hour a day tutoring what should be taught in the 7 hours they’re in school daily.

I blame edtech. Get rid of the laptops and force reading from paper books and textbooks. It’s not the same to read on a screen.


Parents who rely totally on the school to teach everything are definitely to blame. But yes, there should be a return to books and textbooks.


Any school who removed books for the students to take home and then discuss as a class can’t possibly have very good test results.

As for textbooks, I don’t think they should be returned. Texas is removing chapters that explain all about fossil fuels and anything on climate change. They whitewash history textbooks. They can do this because they are a huge buyer of these textbooks. This true for Florida and California too.

There are much better options. In 7th grade National Geographic website had an amazing program that gave info on every country in the world. They discussed location, political system, religion, people, type of weather, land, natural resources. At certain points there would be comprehension questions to ensure students got the material. PBS, Smithsonian, all the big names have excellent programs. We can only hope these programs outlive Trump which is iffy.
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Anonymous wrote:Now go figure out what states those kids are in. I bet you all of the majoritiy are in RED STATES. Because when you consistently defund education over decades in favor of fighting to ensure the 0.6 transgender kids in your state can't play soccer, you end up with 4th graders who can't read.


LCPS is in a blue state. My students in 9 and 10 grades have OBNOXIOUS spelling errors. Their punctuation is nonexistent.

What’s the excuse?


Are you talking about your students? It’s your job to continue with grammar, punctuation and spelling. Their spelling and grammar aren’t flawless just because they are in 9th grade.


DP and in a different district. It’s true. My teen’s 10th grade honors English class syllabus specifically stated students are required to use capitalization and punctuation in all sentences for written or typed papers. WTF. What is going on in schools?


I don’t teach English… but I jump into different course classrooms. It’s beyond ridiculous what I see. The other day, being the last day of the quarter, no work was done and no new material was taught.

Kids resorted to playing the hangman since phones are banned.

This 9th grader spelled EGAL for EAGLE (they were doing animals). Another one that made me truly wonder what the actual facc is happening in the so-called richest county of the USA is when they were doing countries, and in proving hints a kid goes “yeah, this one is in Europe around the Italy area”

He was referencing a northern African country. I swear I do NOT want my kids to be this ignorant.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents need to get off their phones and get their kids to the libraries and read to their kids. Like, every week. Takes out books and bring them home, and read every single night. Boom, kids will start reading.


Dh and I were both gifted and I don’t think my kids are dumb, but none learned by osmosis. I read at a minimum 30 min a day to my kids. Halfway through K my oldest hadn’t learned to read so I bought phonics books and she picked it up instantly. Shocking! After finally being explicitly taught, she got it.

By 4th grade I realized my kids weren’t reading to themselves and enforced mandatory reading time at home. I also bought any book of any genre that they wanted. They all are big readers now.

I don’t understand why school isn’t working for kids anymore but it’s just not.


It’s not working for us because the classroom is chaotic; there’s zero accountability; and way too much personal screen time during the foundational years. I can’t fathom another year in public. And I don’t think private will any better.

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Anonymous wrote:Now go figure out what states those kids are in. I bet you all of the majoritiy are in RED STATES. Because when you consistently defund education over decades in favor of fighting to ensure the 0.6 transgender kids in your state can't play soccer, you end up with 4th graders who can't read.


LCPS is in a blue state. My students in 9 and 10 grades have OBNOXIOUS spelling errors. Their punctuation is nonexistent.

What’s the excuse?


Are you talking about your students? It’s your job to continue with grammar, punctuation and spelling. Their spelling and grammar aren’t flawless just because they are in 9th grade.


DP and in a different district. It’s true. My teen’s 10th grade honors English class syllabus specifically stated students are required to use capitalization and punctuation in all sentences for written or typed papers. WTF. What is going on in schools?


I don’t teach English… but I jump into different course classrooms. It’s beyond ridiculous what I see. The other day, being the last day of the quarter, no work was done and no new material was taught.

Kids resorted to playing the hangman since phones are banned.

This 9th grader spelled EGAL for EAGLE (they were doing animals). Another one that made me truly wonder what the actual facc is happening in the so-called richest county of the USA is when they were doing countries, and in proving hints a kid goes “yeah, this one is in Europe around the Italy area”

He was referencing a northern African country. I swear I do NOT want my kids to be this ignorant.


Spelling phonetically usually is related to a learning disability. I posted earlier about these excellent programs that National Geographic produces that our middle school uses to identify each country, continent and type of government. Maybe the schools can try a new approach if the kids are doing so badly that they aren’t clear on continents by high school although to be fair that area is squishy with three continents close together.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools don't want to have any rules or enforce the rules about cellphones then they should not have performance reviews for teachers anymore and the union officials need to start backing teachers and calling out corruption again bc NO ONE wants to teach anymore bc they know it's a shtshw. Lastly, put some gosh dang cameras in the classrooms to protect teachers. We do he said she said bs with juvenile delinquents like striving to get the admin to support the teachers instead of manipulative tech addicted doped up tweens tweaking on prescribed uppers and given free passes to disrupt every single class to hide the shame of illiteracy.


Instead of cameras in classrooms, which can be intrusive and invasive of students’ privacy, why not address these situations (which are extremely rare) of outbursts by (as you call them - ‘juvenile delinquents’) with restorative justice and compassion?

Furthermore, you do realize these children (and they are still children!) come almost entirely from under-resourced communities, don’t you? Viewing the situation through that lens should make it obvious to anyone that cameras in classrooms are the wrong approach (especially from a civil liberties perspective).


You're right young people shouldn't monitored by a security camera. They should only be on camera when foolinwith their cells, in walmarts and grocery stores, walking down the streets, in the halls....well basically everywhere except for bathrooms and classrooms!

Secondly, outbursts are not rare they happen everyday and sometimes with 20%or more not following direction. Why should they anyway. Theres no rules and if their are they are not enforced with consequences so...basically no rules.

Thirdly, restorative justice is not compassion. Being a structured adult that makes rules to all to abide fairly is compassion. Tough love.

Restorative justice is a way that lets bullies get away Scott free, acknowledge their victims ratted, pretend to be the victim themselves, and go on to carry on bulliying.

Cameras need to be there to protect teachers. Duh. We live in America in the 21st century. Schools are dangerous and they also have been know to retaliate on teachers who get hurt by violence. Get the evidence to protect people's lives, careers, and the sacred institution of learning in general. Usually the only people that don't want cameras are administration bc they want to rule with an iron fist and fire great teachers who want structure and safety over fraudulent data acquisition and reporting

To your last point, it seems like a racist narrative to insinuate that just because people are minorities or impoverished means that they are incapable of following rules or being able to deal with consequences. Restorative justice is a time suck-teachers don't have time to do koombaya sessions with an extensive curriculum. Also, it opens them up to further admin retaliation when they walk in and you are not doing a lesson but talking BS with the kids about feelings when that's the counselors, therapists, admins, etc job- not teachers.

It's weird you have all these objections about safety measures but no objections to the persecutions of teachers by admin. Seems like you are a director, admin, union etc official who gets paid the big bucks for defending the pathetic status quo of illiteracy, no self discipline, and adverse action on teachers carrying out negligent and deranged directives created to make it appear that learning standards are taking place.

I think admin does not like cameras or audio equipment in classrooms is because if the public saw what goes on daily there would be incredible outrage calling for the jobs of directors. They would have to go back to teaching...and they know how bad the classrooms are and how bad teaching is without any support.

I how this helps. Cameras are not the enemy. The enemy is lack of accountability and transparency to run a system that is based on ladder climbing instead of educating.
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Anonymous wrote:Math proficiency scores also dropped. The decline began with the widespread use of tech in schools, around 2012-2013. Of course scores dropped more sharply for reading and math because of Covid, but the decline began well before.



And by tech, I don't mean pencils, macbook computers, smart boards, or even Chromebook usage among 7th-12th graders. I'm talking about iPads in K-2, ubiquitous wireless internet in all classrooms and school spaces K-12, and "learning apps" aimed toward preK and elementary school learners.


If the students in the lower grades are only using Chrome books that would be a problem. A Chrome supplement in addition to math classes using paper and pencil are helpful.


https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/A19DF2E8-3C69-4193-A676-430CF0C83DC2

There is a DIRECT relationship between increased tech use and decreases in cognition.
You need to know how the brain works to teach it properly. And tech is not it.

Tech is too distracting.


If you’re reading a book I understand how important it is to read it on paper. I can’t imagine too many schools not using real books. But supplementing by using Chromebooks for exercises to verify the student comprehended it is smart. The student submits her answers directly and easily.



I wish I were kidding, but the books my middle schooler is assigned to “read” as part of the curriculum are actually played on audio in the class- because kids either won’t or can’t read them


What?? What kind of district / what kind of student demographics?
Anonymous
This is the case in Baltimore City schools where they use the Wit and Wisdom curriculum. The books are too difficult for the students to read and so they are read aloud or there is an audiobook. This is true even in MS.
Anonymous
So basically high school teachers can be easily blamed and fired because kids are being passed along through the grades without knowing how to read books and addicted to tech with no self discipline because negative consequences are forbidden.

It's so easy to retaliate on any teacher that challenges the apathy and vindictive power hungry plans of an admin who plays games with people's lives. They just have to say, " see they kids are not learning bc of this teacher" it happens all the time and the union supports this without protecting or looking at the facts of cases before teachers are discarded.
Anonymous
The problem with cameras is it would shame the schools, the public would be outraged, change of leadership would be demanded and their would be litigation out the wazoo to have footage of chaos in the classroom, fight and disrespect daily etc. the biggest thing keeping cameras out of the classroom is it would protect teacher and students as well as take away the power of admin to use and abuse their staff.
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Anonymous wrote:Now go figure out what states those kids are in. I bet you all of the majoritiy are in RED STATES. Because when you consistently defund education over decades in favor of fighting to ensure the 0.6 transgender kids in your state can't play soccer, you end up with 4th graders who can't read.


LCPS is in a blue state. My students in 9 and 10 grades have OBNOXIOUS spelling errors. Their punctuation is nonexistent.

What’s the excuse?


Are you talking about your students? It’s your job to continue with grammar, punctuation and spelling. Their spelling and grammar aren’t flawless just because they are in 9th grade.


DP and in a different district. It’s true. My teen’s 10th grade honors English class syllabus specifically stated students are required to use capitalization and punctuation in all sentences for written or typed papers. WTF. What is going on in schools?


I don’t teach English… but I jump into different course classrooms. It’s beyond ridiculous what I see. The other day, being the last day of the quarter, no work was done and no new material was taught.

Kids resorted to playing the hangman since phones are banned.

This 9th grader spelled EGAL for EAGLE (they were doing animals). Another one that made me truly wonder what the actual facc is happening in the so-called richest county of the USA is when they were doing countries, and in proving hints a kid goes “yeah, this one is in Europe around the Italy area”

He was referencing a northern African country. I swear I do NOT want my kids to be this ignorant.


Spelling phonetically usually is related to a learning disability. I posted earlier about these excellent programs that National Geographic produces that our middle school uses to identify each country, continent and type of government. Maybe the schools can try a new approach if the kids are doing so badly that they aren’t clear on continents by high school although to be fair that area is squishy with three continents close together.


Yes. The schools needs to use the approach called, “Kids need to write words and read books.” Not another learning app.
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Anonymous wrote:Now go figure out what states those kids are in. I bet you all of the majoritiy are in RED STATES. Because when you consistently defund education over decades in favor of fighting to ensure the 0.6 transgender kids in your state can't play soccer, you end up with 4th graders who can't read.


LCPS is in a blue state. My students in 9 and 10 grades have OBNOXIOUS spelling errors. Their punctuation is nonexistent.

What’s the excuse?


Are you talking about your students? It’s your job to continue with grammar, punctuation and spelling. Their spelling and grammar aren’t flawless just because they are in 9th grade.


DP and in a different district. It’s true. My teen’s 10th grade honors English class syllabus specifically stated students are required to use capitalization and punctuation in all sentences for written or typed papers. WTF. What is going on in schools?


I don’t teach English… but I jump into different course classrooms. It’s beyond ridiculous what I see. The other day, being the last day of the quarter, no work was done and no new material was taught.

Kids resorted to playing the hangman since phones are banned.

This 9th grader spelled EGAL for EAGLE (they were doing animals). Another one that made me truly wonder what the actual facc is happening in the so-called richest county of the USA is when they were doing countries, and in proving hints a kid goes “yeah, this one is in Europe around the Italy area”

He was referencing a northern African country. I swear I do NOT want my kids to be this ignorant.


Spelling phonetically usually is related to a learning disability. I posted earlier about these excellent programs that National Geographic produces that our middle school uses to identify each country, continent and type of government. Maybe the schools can try a new approach if the kids are doing so badly that they aren’t clear on continents by high school although to be fair that area is squishy with three continents close together.


Yes. The schools needs to use the approach called, “Kids need to write words and read books.” Not another learning app.


Kids have to read complete books, I don’t know what school systems are not buying books anymore. It’s hard to believe.

I wrote about the National Geographic and their amazing geography programs. These are not apps. They don’t use apps.
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Anonymous wrote:Now go figure out what states those kids are in. I bet you all of the majoritiy are in RED STATES. Because when you consistently defund education over decades in favor of fighting to ensure the 0.6 transgender kids in your state can't play soccer, you end up with 4th graders who can't read.


LCPS is in a blue state. My students in 9 and 10 grades have OBNOXIOUS spelling errors. Their punctuation is nonexistent.

What’s the excuse?


Are you talking about your students? It’s your job to continue with grammar, punctuation and spelling. Their spelling and grammar aren’t flawless just because they are in 9th grade.


DP and in a different district. It’s true. My teen’s 10th grade honors English class syllabus specifically stated students are required to use capitalization and punctuation in all sentences for written or typed papers. WTF. What is going on in schools?


I don’t teach English… but I jump into different course classrooms. It’s beyond ridiculous what I see. The other day, being the last day of the quarter, no work was done and no new material was taught.

Kids resorted to playing the hangman since phones are banned.

This 9th grader spelled EGAL for EAGLE (they were doing animals). Another one that made me truly wonder what the actual facc is happening in the so-called richest county of the USA is when they were doing countries, and in proving hints a kid goes “yeah, this one is in Europe around the Italy area”

He was referencing a northern African country. I swear I do NOT want my kids to be this ignorant.


Spelling phonetically usually is related to a learning disability. I posted earlier about these excellent programs that National Geographic produces that our middle school uses to identify each country, continent and type of government. Maybe the schools can try a new approach if the kids are doing so badly that they aren’t clear on continents by high school although to be fair that area is squishy with three continents close together.


Yes. The schools needs to use the approach called, “Kids need to write words and read books.” Not another learning app.


Kids have to read complete books, I don’t know what school systems are not buying books anymore. It’s hard to believe.

I wrote about the National Geographic and their amazing geography programs. These are not apps. They don’t use apps.


Many, many schools kids are not reading full books, and of the ones that are, it’s very few and they are below grade level and or poor quality graphic novels. Kids need to physically write words and read a lot of books. There is no learning program that can take the place of this. Kids aren’t doing this in schools anymore. The kid above is phonetically spelling because he has not had adequate exposure to literature and enough practice in writing. This is what happens. And add on top of that, schools don’t specifically teach grammar and spelling either anymore. Now we have a bunch of kids that cannot spell, write, or read beyond basics. It isn’t a learning disability- it’s an utter failure from education system.
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