Two hour school delay yet OPM status is normal

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wow.. this topic generated over 6 pages of comments..

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Anonymous wrote:wow.. this topic generated over 6 pages of comments..

all of them useless

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OPM status will always be normal for the next couple of years. You can get fired for being AWOL on snow days. Why is anyone still surprised by these things? Where have you been?

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Anonymous wrote:OPM status will always be normal for the next couple of years. You can get fired for being AWOL on snow days. Why is anyone still surprised by these things? Where have you been?

Right? They literally said right out in the open that their goal is to "terrorize" federal employees.

They want you to quit so they can either shutter your program (if it's actually doing something good for non-wealthy people) or fill it with cronies (if they think they can make it do something good for wealthy people).

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This is something you have to negotiate with your job.

OPM won’t do it further you.

And where is their other parent?

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I always had a daycare that was synched to OPM’s openings and closings.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem arises that you can't throw money at it- there are no camps or childcare open for a delay. And the Feds with younger children who need care are likely younger, less experienced, have less leave available to take on these days. For example, I am just under 3 years so I only get 4 hours leave per pay period which is about 2.5 weeks per year. If we get a really nasty January storm, I could easily blow through a week of leave right there due to school closures. Nevermind all the other random days off and early releases. Luckily my spouse's job provides more flexibilty so I am not in that scenario but a lot of people in my office do run out of leave to take and have to take LWOP. There's also the general idea of missed productivity for the government itself, so a telework option would actually be mutually beneficial if max productivity was the goal but.. I will stop there.

This is what all young workers (or newer to the workplace workers) go through. It gets better as you're there longer. But, when you're at entry level benefits and you choose to have kids, this was your reality pre Covid and now again with the second term of Trump. I doubt you will see a lot of sympathy because many people have been through this rite of passage.

I have been through this rite of passage - had small kids and a job when telework was only something I could dream of. The fact that I toughed it out does not make me less sympathetic to workers and parents of little kids trying to make it work with RTO and now not even having the flexibilities that they had pre Covid. It makes me more sympathetic, remembering how hard it was for me, and not wanting other people to suffer unnecessarily.

There is something wrong with you.

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Anonymous wrote:OPM status will always be normal for the next couple of years. You can get fired for being AWOL on snow days. Why is anyone still surprised by these things? Where have you been?

Exactly. Heritage Foundation goal.is to get as many feds to quit as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:I always had a daycare that was synched to OPM’s openings and closings.

Daycares, schools and private employers won't won't be able to do that anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Feds claiming you can't call out without prior notice: What do you do when you are sick?

Oh right, you call out. Without notice. Stop complaining. The rest of the world figures this out, you can too.

It's frustrating to hear private sector workers saying "just call out!" or "just telework!" or "flex your schedule and work later!" without realizing that many salaried feds are treated more like hourly workers and not given the level of flexibility you have. Do you have to use PTO for a 2 hour doctor's appointment, or is that something you can make up later from home, or even not count because you'll probably stay late some other day? Welp, if you were a fed, you'd have to request the time off in advance.

The only two reasons you can call out without notice if you have a very by-the-book manager are actually being ill, or "liberal leave" for weather, which we do not have today.

The whole point is that yes we can figure it out, but it just doesn't have to be this hard!

Since you know all of these things, go right ahead and make a plan. Like the rest of us. Sometimes life is hard, but I don't go around saying that I'm the victim of cruelty (as the OP did) when it's just a little bit complicated or annoying.

It is not about OPM not allowing telework on one particular day. Having to use 2 hours of PTO in and of itself it not a big deal.

But we have an entire winter ahead of us. It is going to be much more than 2 hours of PTO if there is a major weather event that broadly affects transportation and safety.

Not all of us have huge leave balances to get us through. Newer Feds don’t accrue as quickly and if you have kids then you are using your leave already. I used mine this year just trying to survive the effects of 3 hours daily commute.

My kids are older and I do not need to be at home with them if they are off school. I am more worried about being forced into the office 45 miles away when the roads are unsafe. How should I plan for that?

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Anonymous wrote:Feds claiming you can't call out without prior notice: What do you do when you are sick?

Oh right, you call out. Without notice. Stop complaining. The rest of the world figures this out, you can too.

It's frustrating to hear private sector workers saying "just call out!" or "just telework!" or "flex your schedule and work later!" without realizing that many salaried feds are treated more like hourly workers and not given the level of flexibility you have. Do you have to use PTO for a 2 hour doctor's appointment, or is that something you can make up later from home, or even not count because you'll probably stay late some other day? Welp, if you were a fed, you'd have to request the time off in advance.

The only two reasons you can call out without notice if you have a very by-the-book manager are actually being ill, or "liberal leave" for weather, which we do not have today.

The whole point is that yes we can figure it out, but it just doesn't have to be this hard!

Since you know all of these things, go right ahead and make a plan. Like the rest of us. Sometimes life is hard, but I don't go around saying that I'm the victim of cruelty (as the OP did) when it's just a little bit complicated or annoying.

It is not about OPM not allowing telework on one particular day. Having to use 2 hours of PTO in and of itself it not a big deal.

But we have an entire winter ahead of us. It is going to be much more than 2 hours of PTO if there is a major weather event that broadly affects transportation and safety.

Not all of us have huge leave balances to get us through. Newer Feds don’t accrue as quickly and if you have kids then you are using your leave already. I used mine this year just trying to survive the effects of 3 hours daily commute.

My kids are older and I do not need to be at home with them if they are off school. I am more worried about being forced into the office 45 miles away when the roads are unsafe. How should I plan for that?

It’s really, really not that hard. You use annual leave and tone down your summer vacay plans to conserve leave. It sucks but it is the reality. Like I said above, where have you been???

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This is a silly conversation. Think for just two seconds about all the hourly workers, first responders, medical personnel — you will figure it out.