Two hour school delay yet OPM status is normal

[Anonymous]

What a transparent lie. "Most" childcare providers are booked up, they are not taking drop-in kids and they certainly are not then delivering those kids to school. This is even less real than the do-good neighbor who will take your kids on a random morning.

They do. You have to sign up for them over the summer or at the beginning of the school year. I know that you probably have difficulty planning ahead, but please do try.

[Anonymous]

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What a transparent lie. "Most" childcare providers are booked up, they are not taking drop-in kids and they certainly are not then delivering those kids to school. This is even less real than the do-good neighbor who will take your kids on a random morning.

They do. You have to sign up for them over the summer or at the beginning of the school year. I know that you probably have difficulty planning ahead, but please do try.

I've seen that for *some* daycares (certainly not most), but never before-care programs. I believe in their existence somewhere, but they're certainly not available everywhere.

[Anonymous]

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indifference and cruelty

Figuring out care for your children for 2 hours is not cruelty. Good lord get some perspective.

Seriously. The handwringing melodrama is off the chain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which school system should OPM follow since they all make different decisions?

This is as impractical as it is stupid.

They think if one school district within 100 miles has late opening, all feds should get two free hours.

Absurd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve never been in sync. Government workers are obnoxiously entitled. Take leave if you can’t make it in. That is what private sector does.

Do you, private sector worker, have to work all of your hours in an actual office? Didn’t think so.
This wasn’t an issue before because we could telework when this happened, you know, back when Fed were treated as humans.

Um, yes, MANY do. You’re delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which school system should OPM follow since they all make different decisions?

This is as impractical as it is stupid.

They think if one school district within 100 miles has late opening, all feds should get two free hours.

Absurd.

It's not two free hours, it's the ability to telework. No one with a telework agreement gets free hours due to weather.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Feds claiming you can't call out without prior notice: What do you do when you are sick?

Oh right, you call out. Without notice. Stop complaining. The rest of the world figures this out, you can too.

It's frustrating to hear private sector workers saying "just call out!" or "just telework!" or "flex your schedule and work later!" without realizing that many salaried feds are treated more like hourly workers and not given the level of flexibility you have. Do you have to use PTO for a 2 hour doctor's appointment, or is that something you can make up later from home, or even not count because you'll probably stay late some other day? Welp, if you were a fed, you'd have to request the time off in advance.

The only two reasons you can call out without notice if you have a very by-the-book manager are actually being ill, or "liberal leave" for weather, which we do not have today.

The whole point is that yes we can figure it out, but it just doesn't have to be this hard!

Since you know all of these things, go right ahead and make a plan. Like the rest of us. Sometimes life is hard, but I don't go around saying that I'm the victim of cruelty (as the OP did) when it's just a little bit complicated or annoying.

It wasn't an issue for me personally, my district was delayed yesterday but my private sector spouse was able to telewor and take the kids, and my boss is a single parent who would have had zero issue with a last minute leave request.

But "ugh, you morons, make a plan like the rest of us" when you can count on different flexibilities is tone deaf and annoying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who has a delay of two hours?

MCPS

But OP, OPM has never given delays and closures every time a school system in the area has. I’ve been a DC area fed for 20 years, with school age children for the last 15. Countless times, including today, I’ve had tot are time off to cover delays and closures.

+1. Everyone has a different situation, so it’s not feasible for employers to adjust hours based on specific school district guidance. That said, it’s hard to be a working parent and I empathize from one working parent to another.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes I think there must be trolls starting these threads lately. So many people in the private sector are expected to be in the office when schools have delays or snow days. If these complaints are the norm, I can understand why people think Feds are lazy or entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve never been in sync. Government workers are obnoxiously entitled. Take leave if you can’t make it in. That is what private sector does.

As the pp above explained it, feds cannot just take leave instantly. They need prior approval.

I work for government most supervisors are not jerks about this. Call out sick then. Figure it out. Jesus the whining. Never mind all the non-office job workers who show up everywhere they are supposed to before during and after minor weather events.

All of my fed coworkers and employees are married to inflexible job spouses. It's the reason most took the fed job so they could trade flexibility for the slightly lower pay.

Prior to COVID, federal government jobs were never flexible. Fed was a butt in seat job, with clock punching hours. Maybe you could flex the time you started but that too had to be fairly locked once set. It’s the main reason I stayed a contractor all these years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I think there must be trolls starting these threads lately. So many people in the private sector are expected to be in the office when schools have delays or snow days. If these complaints are the norm, I can understand why people think Feds are lazy or entitled.

No, my friends in the private sector can absolutely telework if there is a snow day.

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve never been in sync. Government workers are obnoxiously entitled. Take leave if you can’t make it in. That is what private sector does.

As the pp above explained it, feds cannot just take leave instantly. They need prior approval.

I work for government most supervisors are not jerks about this. Call out sick then. Figure it out. Jesus the whining. Never mind all the non-office job workers who show up everywhere they are supposed to before during and after minor weather events.

All of my fed coworkers and employees are married to inflexible job spouses. It's the reason most took the fed job so they could trade flexibility for the slightly lower pay.

Prior to COVID, federal government jobs were never flexible. Fed was a butt in seat job, with clock punching hours. Maybe you could flex the time you started but that too had to be fairly locked once set. It’s the main reason I stayed a contractor all these years.

Lies. I had ad hoc telework as far back as 2006. By the time Covid rolled around I could telework 2 days one week and 3 days the other on a recurring telework schedule. Now I have nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve never been in sync. Government workers are obnoxiously entitled. Take leave if you can’t make it in. That is what private sector does.

As the pp above explained it, feds cannot just take leave instantly. They need prior approval.

I work for government most supervisors are not jerks about this. Call out sick then. Figure it out. Jesus the whining. Never mind all the non-office job workers who show up everywhere they are supposed to before during and after minor weather events.

All of my fed coworkers and employees are married to inflexible job spouses. It's the reason most took the fed job so they could trade flexibility for the slightly lower pay.

Prior to COVID, federal government jobs were never flexible. Fed was a butt in seat job, with clock punching hours. Maybe you could flex the time you started but that too had to be fairly locked once set. It’s the main reason I stayed a contractor all these years.

I'm sure there were inflexible agencies, but there were plenty with flexibility. I had 2 telework days every week starting in 2011, went to 4 days in 2018. The majority of my agency did an AWS (9 on, 1 off) schedule and could change the off day if they hadn't taken it yet that pay period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’ve never been in sync. Government workers are obnoxiously entitled. Take leave if you can’t make it in. That is what private sector does.

As the pp above explained it, feds cannot just take leave instantly. They need prior approval.

I work for government most supervisors are not jerks about this. Call out sick then. Figure it out. Jesus the whining. Never mind all the non-office job workers who show up everywhere they are supposed to before during and after minor weather events.

All of my fed coworkers and employees are married to inflexible job spouses. It's the reason most took the fed job so they could trade flexibility for the slightly lower pay.

Prior to COVID, federal government jobs were never flexible. Fed was a butt in seat job, with clock punching hours. Maybe you could flex the time you started but that too had to be fairly locked once set. It’s the main reason I stayed a contractor all these years.

Lies. I had ad hoc telework as far back as 2006. By the time Covid rolled around I could telework 2 days one week and 3 days the other on a recurring telework schedule. Now I have nothing.

I only had to be in the office 1 day a week for 10? years before Covid. After Covid I was 100% WFH. Now I am 5 days a week in the office (except for 5 days I can choose...thanks so much)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The indifference and cruelty of the situation is just absurd. This is not only a safety issue for all who drive on slippery and icy roads. But parents and caregivers in the area who are already struggling need OPM to be in sync with school delays to make life work.

It is always like this? Schools closed but govt. is open. This is nothing new.