$25 min wage in DC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Issues like this are dangerous when presented to a city council comprised entirely of “community activists.” I’m not sure there is a single day of small business experience between the 13 of them.

Whether this is a good solution or not, we still have a massive affordability gap. For instance the average new house buyer just ticked up to 40, where it was 28 not that long ago. Keep ignoring these outcomes and we'll keep getting someone who will try to fix them, even if they end up failing.

Build more housing, not less. This has worked in other cities. We could try it here.

I'm going to assume you've missed all the threads on Cathedral Commons, McMillan Reservoir and even near in places like University Boulevard. Building even a few new units largely takes a decade+ of studies and lawsuits before any units are delivered. That's because existing home owners fight tooth and nail to keep density out of their neighborhoods. They want to keep housing expensive, because its an investment to them.

So barring Trump appointing some Baron who gets permission to level every SFH in DC and replace them with 5+2s, you're not going to be able to build your way out of this problem.

No body wants their ox gored to fix affordability, so in all likely hood, everyone will get theirs gored before long.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Issues like this are dangerous when presented to a city council comprised entirely of “community activists.” I’m not sure there is a single day of small business experience between the 13 of them.

+1

And yet for some reason the voters of DC elected these people.

And are probably going to now elevate one of them to mayor.

Because we just have to have a Democrat, no matter how absurd every single one of them is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you see the part where this is a campaign by activists? In response to the council repealing part of a previous minimum wage raise?

Of course activists want this. Doesn't mean they'll get it.

Activists are free dine or drink out and to leave extra $$$ on the counter when they order. Don't ruin it for all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you see the part where this is a campaign by activists? In response to the council repealing part of a previous minimum wage raise?

Of course activists want this. Doesn't mean they'll get it.

Activists are free dine or drink out and to leave extra $$$ on the counter when they order. Don't ruin it for all.

Activists want you to give your money. After all, activism isn't a paid job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Issues like this are dangerous when presented to a city council comprised entirely of “community activists.” I’m not sure there is a single day of small business experience between the 13 of them.

Whether this is a good solution or not, we still have a massive affordability gap. For instance the average new house buyer just ticked up to 40, where it was 28 not that long ago. Keep ignoring these outcomes and we'll keep getting someone who will try to fix them, even if they end up failing.

Build more housing, not less. This has worked in other cities. We could try it here.

I'm going to assume you've missed all the threads on Cathedral Commons, McMillan Reservoir and even near in places like University Boulevard. Building even a few new units largely takes a decade+ of studies and lawsuits before any units are delivered. That's because existing home owners fight tooth and nail to keep density out of their neighborhoods. They want to keep housing expensive, because its an investment to them.

So barring Trump appointing some Baron who gets permission to level every SFH in DC and replace them with 5+2s, you're not going to be able to build your way out of this problem.

No body wants their ox gored to fix affordability, so in all likely hood, everyone will get theirs gored before long.

It's not to prop up prices. It's to keep the Blacks and Browns out of the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Minimum wage should be just high enough to be preferable to the dole and just low enough to be something people are striving to leave behind

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Issues like this are dangerous when presented to a city council comprised entirely of “community activists.” I’m not sure there is a single day of small business experience between the 13 of them.

Whether this is a good solution or not, we still have a massive affordability gap. For instance the average new house buyer just ticked up to 40, where it was 28 not that long ago. Keep ignoring these outcomes and we'll keep getting someone who will try to fix them, even if they end up failing.

Build more housing, not less. This has worked in other cities. We could try it here.

I'm going to assume you've missed all the threads on Cathedral Commons, McMillan Reservoir and even near in places like University Boulevard. Building even a few new units largely takes a decade+ of studies and lawsuits before any units are delivered. That's because existing home owners fight tooth and nail to keep density out of their neighborhoods. They want to keep housing expensive, because its an investment to them.

So barring Trump appointing some Baron who gets permission to level every SFH in DC and replace them with 5+2s, you're not going to be able to build your way out of this problem.

No body wants their ox gored to fix affordability, so in all likely hood, everyone will get theirs gored before long.

It's not to prop up prices. It's to keep the Blacks and Browns out of the neighborhood.

Its quite obviously both. While we were arguing here a "don't ever build anything" in MOCO thread popped up: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1305323.page

So that's why we don't just build things. So we get $25 min instead. And if that doesn't work, just read a history book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Issues like this are dangerous when presented to a city council comprised entirely of “community activists.” I’m not sure there is a single day of small business experience between the 13 of them.

Whether this is a good solution or not, we still have a massive affordability gap. For instance the average new house buyer just ticked up to 40, where it was 28 not that long ago. Keep ignoring these outcomes and we'll keep getting someone who will try to fix them, even if they end up failing.

Build more housing, not less. This has worked in other cities. We could try it here.

Did you move here yesterday? DC has been doing this for a very long time. The number of housing units has grown more than 20 percent over the past decade or so. Housing is expensive in part because incomes are very high here. Even cops and elementary school teachers make six figures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A perfect example of why Washington DC folks are out of touch with many American workers. First year teachers, nurses, and social workers in most places don"t make that much.

In every state that had a ballot initiative to increase the minimum wage, it passed easily. Red and blue.

Progressive economic ballot initiatives win in every state or municipality.

False.

https://ballotpedia.org/Results_for_minimum_wage_and_labor-related_ballot_measures,_2024

I guess they only pass in red states according to this link.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A perfect example of why Washington DC folks are out of touch with many American workers. First year teachers, nurses, and social workers in most places don"t make that much.

I can assure you that in the District, which is all that we are talking about here, both DCPS first year teachers and new grad RNs make significantly more than that.

Tell that to hard working American voters and see who gets elected President next time.

What does that even mean. People in Iowa will elect a president based on how much the min c wage is in DC?

I assure you that people in DC making min wage are barely scraping by and are not out of touch with the same kind of struggle in other parts of the country.

DP. Hard to believe you can’t understand PPs point that much of this extreme progressive stupidity just feeds the populist revolt that got us the current president

Populists are economic socialists that have conservative social views.

How is it people don’t understand what populism actually is?

[Anonymous]

So people want the dishwasher and burger flipper making more than a starting teacher. Sound economic move. $15 is a reasonable minimum wage that won’t cause more inflation and allow people to get a start in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So people want the dishwasher and burger flipper making more than a starting teacher. Sound economic move. $15 is a reasonable minimum wage that won’t cause more inflation and allow people to get a start in the world.

Dishwasher is not a start. It's the ultimate job according to the DC council. That's a job you should have for a lifetime. According to some posters, dishwashers are even more valuable than electricians to society. Everyone wants a clean plate, but not everyone is sold on this new-fangled electricity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A perfect example of why Washington DC folks are out of touch with many American workers. First year teachers, nurses, and social workers in most places don"t make that much.

In every state that had a ballot initiative to increase the minimum wage, it passed easily. Red and blue.

Progressive economic ballot initiatives win in every state or municipality.

False.

https://ballotpedia.org/Results_for_minimum_wage_and_labor-related_ballot_measures,_2024

I guess they only pass in red states according to this link.

Surprising isn't it? Even CA backed out of raising the minimum wage. It was left to the voters though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Issues like this are dangerous when presented to a city council comprised entirely of “community activists.” I’m not sure there is a single day of small business experience between the 13 of them.

Whether this is a good solution or not, we still have a massive affordability gap. For instance the average new house buyer just ticked up to 40, where it was 28 not that long ago. Keep ignoring these outcomes and we'll keep getting someone who will try to fix them, even if they end up failing.

Build more housing, not less. This has worked in other cities. We could try it here.

Did you move here yesterday? DC has been doing this for a very long time. The number of housing units has grown more than 20 percent over the past decade or so. Housing is expensive in part because incomes are very high here. Even cops and elementary school teachers make six figures.

Build more. The demand is still outstripping supply. When apartment buildings start competing for renters, things will improve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A perfect example of why Washington DC folks are out of touch with many American workers. First year teachers, nurses, and social workers in most places don"t make that much.

I can assure you that in the District, which is all that we are talking about here, both DCPS first year teachers and new grad RNs make significantly more than that.

And "the District" is woefully out of touch with the average American worker/voter.

Again with this stupidity. The only ones out of touch are the ones making hundreds of thousands per year and insisting the min wage HAS to stay at $17. You have no idea what it takes to survive on min wage.

Stupidity? I think not. I'm a Harris voter and a teacher who knows what it's like to struggle to maintain a home, security, and retirement. "The District" types like to demean typical American workers for their Trump votes. Democrats will lose again with these types of policies and decisions.

Actually, pandering and catering to people like you is why Dems keep losing. The party leadership is full of centrists.