Harvard class of 2029 details--45% of the class will attend tuition free

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Anonymous wrote:As a full pay family, this just makes me feel like a schmuck. Which is part of why we choose in-state publics even though we could easily cash flow private. I don’t want to pay double for something so that half the kids pay nothing.

You won't be missed.

Actually, their tuition money in fact will be missed.

it really won't be.

Harvard doesn't need tuition money. Not the rank and filing donations from alumni. They both pale compared to what the endowment throws off. It's only a matter of time before they go tuition free. And then you'll all be mad about that!

You can't win with racists.

They are still overcharging full-pay in order to allow students to attend for free. Otherwise they could just lower tuition. If some parents want to pay the cost of 2 kids’ college even though they are only sending one kid, that is certainly their choice.

not true. full cost to harvard is something like 110k a year. every kid is subsidized to some degree. the idea that full pay is paying for others is rooted in ignorance and classism/racism

It’s zero sum. They have decided an amount of revenue they want from tuition, and they have decided they are only going to charge it to a subset of students. If tuition was lowered for full pay, the school would have to spend even more money on non payers. It’s just simple math.

here's the simple math: my full pay student is not funding any other kid's eduction. full stop.

Whatever you need to believe.

+1 Let us know where your kid goes to university so we can prove you know nothing about how universities operate.

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Is Harvard's wait-list need-aware?

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't white students minorities in all the Ivy league and top 10 schools now? That's why you are seeing a cultural shift towards other schools. Many students don't want to be a minority regardless of race. The social dynamic isn't very good and instead of mixing, many students of the same ethnicity only socialize with those of their own background. Not sure what can be done but admissions is doing a terrible job.

america has changed. whites are not the majority anywhere. being a "majority minority" is a pretty privileged place to be

Whites are still the majority - 57% non Hispanic white.

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Anonymous wrote:Only 37% white is deeply concerning. Someone needs to check their admissions practices.

? I don't understand your point. Princeton's class is 28% white for comparison.

What don’t you understand? SCOTUS and federal law ended affirmative action two years ago. What don’t you get?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that the racist white folks (pray to god it’s a minority) are caught in a catch 22 situation. If the admissions are race aware it helps the black and Hispanic population. If it’s purely based on merit it helps Asians.
The world has changed. Learn to live with others or get left behind.

The racists are the ones who are the committed race aware types. Everything should be merit only. Always and forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Key point, "tuition" doesn't include room and board.

Costs have gone up and so must need-based financial aid. People should be using Harvard's Net Price Calculator to see what it would cost them; this is nothing new. These types of articles are just advertising for the school.[/quot

Correct, tuition is only $54k of an estimated total cost of $89k a year.

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I get wanting to go to a school that "looks like America."

But does anyone believe MIT would be MIT if it was only 6 percent Asian?

The schools that really want the best are never going to have perfect proportions.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't white students minorities in all the Ivy league and top 10 schools now? That's why you are seeing a cultural shift towards other schools. Many students don't want to be a minority regardless of race. The social dynamic isn't very good and instead of mixing, many students of the same ethnicity only socialize with those of their own background. Not sure what can be done but admissions is doing a terrible job.

Omg tell me you are white without telling me smh

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Anonymous wrote:As a full pay family, this just makes me feel like a schmuck. Which is part of why we choose in-state publics even though we could easily cash flow private. I don’t want to pay double for something so that half the kids pay nothing.

You won't be missed.

Actually, their tuition money in fact will be missed.

it really won't be.

Harvard doesn't need tuition money. Not the rank and filing donations from alumni. They both pale compared to what the endowment throws off. It's only a matter of time before they go tuition free. And then you'll all be mad about that!

You can't win with racists.

They are still overcharging full-pay in order to allow students to attend for free. Otherwise they could just lower tuition. If some parents want to pay the cost of 2 kids’ college even though they are only sending one kid, that is certainly their choice.

not true. full cost to harvard is something like 110k a year. every kid is subsidized to some degree. the idea that full pay is paying for others is rooted in ignorance and classism/racism

at yale, it's like 125k

False. Harvard undergrad is $89k for 25-/6 and Yale is $92-93k. Look it up

[Anonymous]

I didn’t read all the posts. Did Harvard release their SAT/ACT data from this past cycle? Very interested to see if the average scores went down now that they’re stead required

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Anonymous wrote:As a full pay family, this just makes me feel like a schmuck. Which is part of why we choose in-state publics even though we could easily cash flow private. I don’t want to pay double for something so that half the kids pay nothing.

You won't be missed.

Actually, their tuition money in fact will be missed.

it really won't be.

Harvard doesn't need tuition money. Not the rank and filing donations from alumni. They both pale compared to what the endowment throws off. It's only a matter of time before they go tuition free. And then you'll all be mad about that!

You can't win with racists.

They are still overcharging full-pay in order to allow students to attend for free. Otherwise they could just lower tuition. If some parents want to pay the cost of 2 kids’ college even though they are only sending one kid, that is certainly their choice.

not true. full cost to harvard is something like 110k a year. every kid is subsidized to some degree. the idea that full pay is paying for others is rooted in ignorance and classism/racism

at yale, it's like 125k

False. Harvard undergrad is $89k for 25-/6 and Yale is $92-93k. Look it up

this was not what full cost to the college means

[Anonymous]

this is going to sound very classist, but if 45% of Harvard’s student is from low enough SES to qualify for free tuition, it doesn’t sound great for the network if its a bunch of FGLI kids making friends with each other but woth no parental networks to leverage. And then the super rich private school kids stick together. Then you are left with just the quality of the Harvatd undergrad education, which sounds like its not much better than many lower ranked schools…

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Something is deeply wrong if a group is dominating admissions in a way that doesn't make sense. Asians aren't substantially wealthier than white Americans. Something deeply troubling is occurring where admissions is choosing against commonly white traits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is going to sound very classist, but if 45% of Harvard’s student is from low enough SES to qualify for free tuition, it doesn’t sound great for the network if its a bunch of FGLI kids making friends with each other but woth no parental networks to leverage. And then the super rich private school kids stick together. Then you are left with just the quality of the Harvatd undergrad education, which sounds like its not much better than many lower ranked schools…

I think it’s great that half the incoming class pays no tuition. There have always been students who should have been at Harvard but never bothered to apply because the family couldn’t afford it. Now it’s more likely that they are getting the best students. Students unlikely to have relied on private tutors or attend silly ECs that parents chose for them. If they went to private schools it was probably on merit scholarships. Some of the lowest income kids might be responsible for younger siblings while a single mother worked long hours.

Tufts is free tuition to families whose income is below $150k. This will take the place of DEI.