Why doesn't APS make Arlington Tech into a TJ or Blair type school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

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You’re really stuck on the PT class. I know there are other classes at ACC that students can apply directly to their programs.

Pp made same point with vet program

[Anonymous]

I'm really stunned that the PT poster doesn't "get it". Here's that exact pathway link:
https://arlingtontech.apsva.us/health-sciences-pathways/
The three DE classes are college credit courses at VA public schools and some other ones. Clearly it leads to the aid test, as stated. A child could add DE English, math and other DE classes to get an AA degree before graduation. I think about 20 did so last year from a total class size of over 100. Also, yes, there is ESL services and special ed services for these classes. DE sped is done through NoVA. Not sure about ESL. If your kid goes to a comprehensive high school, there are ways to take AT/ACC classes but since mine is at AT, I'm not familiar with how exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

My kid is at AT, although not in PT. The DE classes at AT have different names than they do at NVCC. Some yearlong classes at AT are semester long classes at NVCC. Sometimes a year long class at AT is equivalent to two classes at NVCC. The best thing it to talk to the teacher and they will be be able to tell you the NVCC course numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

My kid is at AT, although not in PT. The DE classes at AT have different names than they do at NVCC. Some yearlong classes at AT are semester long classes at NVCC. Sometimes a year long class at AT is equivalent to two classes at NVCC. The best thing it to talk to the teacher and they will be be able to tell you the NVCC course numbers.

Thanks for clarifying. I don’t know why people who aren’t enrolled feel compelled to spread misinformation, maybe they are trying to get a spot for their kid next year. The website is a snippet of information. Students who are enrolled in the school get more information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

My kid is at AT, although not in PT. The DE classes at AT have different names than they do at NVCC. Some yearlong classes at AT are semester long classes at NVCC. Sometimes a year long class at AT is equivalent to two classes at NVCC. The best thing it to talk to the teacher and they will be be able to tell you the NVCC course numbers.

Thanks for clarifying. I don’t know why people who aren’t enrolled feel compelled to spread misinformation, maybe they are trying to get a spot for their kid next year. The website is a snippet of information. Students who are enrolled in the school get more information.

I think the school will continue to grow class sizes for the next few years so most kids who want to get in will. No need to spread misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm really stunned that the PT poster doesn't "get it". Here's that exact pathway link:
https://arlingtontech.apsva.us/health-sciences-pathways/
The three DE classes are college credit courses at VA public schools and some other ones. Clearly it leads to the aid test, as stated. A child could add DE English, math and other DE classes to get an AA degree before graduation. I think about 20 did so last year from a total class size of over 100. Also, yes, there is ESL services and special ed services for these classes. DE sped is done through NoVA. Not sure about ESL. If your kid goes to a comprehensive high school, there are ways to take AT/ACC classes but since mine is at AT, I'm not familiar with how exactly.

probably just a troll looking to case aspersions on APS/public school so they can get their voucher for private. Class APE tactic.

[Anonymous]

I think there are a few different posters that you’re assuming is one person. I won’t claim all of the responses and I’m sorry if any of mine made me sound like a jerk. I’m a graduate of NVCC’s PTA program and think it’s important that students understand what this actually is (and isn’t).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really stunned that the PT poster doesn't "get it". Here's that exact pathway link:
https://arlingtontech.apsva.us/health-sciences-pathways/
The three DE classes are college credit courses at VA public schools and some other ones. Clearly it leads to the aid test, as stated. A child could add DE English, math and other DE classes to get an AA degree before graduation. I think about 20 did so last year from a total class size of over 100. Also, yes, there is ESL services and special ed services for these classes. DE sped is done through NoVA. Not sure about ESL. If your kid goes to a comprehensive high school, there are ways to take AT/ACC classes but since mine is at AT, I'm not familiar with how exactly.

probably just a troll looking to case aspersions on APS/public school so they can get their voucher for private. Class APE tactic.

Did you just go through every post and accuse people of being a PE looking for school vouchers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really stunned that the PT poster doesn't "get it". Here's that exact pathway link:
https://arlingtontech.apsva.us/health-sciences-pathways/
The three DE classes are college credit courses at VA public schools and some other ones. Clearly it leads to the aid test, as stated. A child could add DE English, math and other DE classes to get an AA degree before graduation. I think about 20 did so last year from a total class size of over 100. Also, yes, there is ESL services and special ed services for these classes. DE sped is done through NoVA. Not sure about ESL. If your kid goes to a comprehensive high school, there are ways to take AT/ACC classes but since mine is at AT, I'm not familiar with how exactly.

probably just a troll looking to case aspersions on APS/public school so they can get their voucher for private. Class APE tactic.

I did get that vibe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really stunned that the PT poster doesn't "get it". Here's that exact pathway link:
https://arlingtontech.apsva.us/health-sciences-pathways/
The three DE classes are college credit courses at VA public schools and some other ones. Clearly it leads to the aid test, as stated. A child could add DE English, math and other DE classes to get an AA degree before graduation. I think about 20 did so last year from a total class size of over 100. Also, yes, there is ESL services and special ed services for these classes. DE sped is done through NoVA. Not sure about ESL. If your kid goes to a comprehensive high school, there are ways to take AT/ACC classes but since mine is at AT, I'm not familiar with how exactly.

probably just a troll looking to case aspersions on APS/public school so they can get their voucher for private. Class APE tactic.

Did you just go through every post and accuse people of being a PE looking for school vouchers?

if the shoe fits!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why APS would try to make Arlington Tech into a Blair/TJ type of school with a rigorous STEM focus with high performing kids?

If it were a true magnet school for high performing kids, I'm not sure they could even seat 50 kids per graduating class in Arlington. The terrible curriculum in ES and MS have caused so many parents to move to another county or go private. I'd be surprised if there were even a handful of high performing kids per grade per high school class. They'd need to hope word of mouth would cause some parents with young, really smart kids to flock into the county in order to populate the school.

The appeal these schools is that they teach classes that are beyond the curriculum and scope of normal "advanced" high school classes. For a simple metric, look at how few NMSF the entire (Arlington) county produces, and that itself is a low bar to use. I have known a few highly intelligent kids who live in the county and they aren't the resume padders with the fake foundations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why APS would try to make Arlington Tech into a Blair/TJ type of school with a rigorous STEM focus with high performing kids?

If it were a true magnet school for high performing kids, I'm not sure they could even seat 50 kids per graduating class in Arlington. The terrible curriculum in ES and MS have caused so many parents to move to another county or go private. I'd be surprised if there were even a handful of high performing kids per grade per high school class. They'd need to hope word of mouth would cause some parents with young, really smart kids to flock into the county in order to populate the school.

The appeal these schools is that they teach classes that are beyond the curriculum and scope of normal "advanced" high school classes. For a simple metric, look at how few NMSF the entire (Arlington) county produces, and that itself is a low bar to use. I have known a few highly intelligent kids who live in the county and they aren't the resume padders with the fake foundations.

Arlington hater is here with his fake news. Of course there are many high performing kids in Arlington across the high schools. They do great in college admissions. NMSF isn't the only criteria for high performing kids, you know. But enjoy paying for private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why APS would try to make Arlington Tech into a Blair/TJ type of school with a rigorous STEM focus with high performing kids?

If it were a true magnet school for high performing kids, I'm not sure they could even seat 50 kids per graduating class in Arlington. The terrible curriculum in ES and MS have caused so many parents to move to another county or go private. I'd be surprised if there were even a handful of high performing kids per grade per high school class. They'd need to hope word of mouth would cause some parents with young, really smart kids to flock into the county in order to populate the school.

The appeal these schools is that they teach classes that are beyond the curriculum and scope of normal "advanced" high school classes. For a simple metric, look at how few NMSF the entire (Arlington) county produces, and that itself is a low bar to use. I have known a few highly intelligent kids who live in the county and they aren't the resume padders with the fake foundations.

Arlington hater is here with his fake news. Of course there are many high performing kids in Arlington across the high schools. They do great in college admissions. NMSF isn't the only criteria for high performing kids, you know. But enjoy paying for private.

+1. Such a silly assertion. All three big high schools have cohorts of kids taking lots of AP/IB classes, performing well, etc. Plus of course there are high performing kids at HB and AT as well. There are plenty of them in APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why APS would try to make Arlington Tech into a Blair/TJ type of school with a rigorous STEM focus with high performing kids?

If it were a true magnet school for high performing kids, I'm not sure they could even seat 50 kids per graduating class in Arlington. The terrible curriculum in ES and MS have caused so many parents to move to another county or go private. I'd be surprised if there were even a handful of high performing kids per grade per high school class. They'd need to hope word of mouth would cause some parents with young, really smart kids to flock into the county in order to populate the school.

The appeal these schools is that they teach classes that are beyond the curriculum and scope of normal "advanced" high school classes. For a simple metric, look at how few NMSF the entire (Arlington) county produces, and that itself is a low bar to use. I have known a few highly intelligent kids who live in the county and they aren't the resume padders with the fake foundations.

Arlington hater is here with his fake news. Of course there are many high performing kids in Arlington across the high schools. They do great in college admissions. NMSF isn't the only criteria for high performing kids, you know. But enjoy paying for private.

+1. Such a silly assertion. All three big high schools have cohorts of kids taking lots of AP/IB classes, performing well, etc. Plus of course there are high performing kids at HB and AT as well. There are plenty of them in APS.

People like you don't have any clue what high performing means. ISEF, Regeneron, Olympiads, AMC, etc.? It's not about AP or IB classes or getting a bunch of A's. In order to have a true high performing magnet school, you need a decent number of truly gifted kids that have achievements at natl/intl comps to set the ceiling and then backfill with a bunch of excellent students among the very smart, the diligent, and some try hards. Compare the student achievement at APS with TJ. I know, it's not fair to compare an entire county with one school, but that's because TJ obviously has way more. Most of the smart kids have left APS and you can't get smart kids to move into the county because the ES/MS pipeline sucks and smart kids from wealthy families would rather live in other nearby counties.

[Anonymous]

It’s an issue of size. TJ can fill a whole school of super smart kids because it pulls from a massive county as well as other smaller ones. It would be a waste of resources to dedicate a building in Arlington to a small group when we can just pay tuition to the governor’s school