Why doesn't APS make Arlington Tech into a TJ or Blair type school?

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Anonymous wrote:Question is; Are these real life experiences and exposures leading to something a young person can put on their resume, and something that helps them explore a career requiring college and graduate school, or do you consider these internships only useful if you want to be (for example) a vet technician?

Career exploration only. Which is great, but they need to make that super clear. The website is super misleading and could make families think their child will graduate with qualifications to work as a healthcare provider.

Any family who is interested should tour for more info.

But they should also make the website descriptions less misleading.

Which part is misleading?

The charts for the healthcare pathways that state these students will be eligible to take exams that will make them actual healthcare providers.

When in reality, these positions are filled by people with zero qualifications who receive on the job training.

Not sure this poster got her GED given reading comprehension issues. From the APS website:
Physical/Occupational Therapy – This course focuses on evaluation of athletic injuries, initial emergency medical assessment and care, modality application, formation of rehabilitative exercise programs and taping. The course is designed for students interested in the fields of physical and occupational therapy.
Physical/Occupational Therapy l
Health Sciences (28303)
Physical/Occupational Therapy ll (SY 2024-25)

You cut off the ending that states students will be eligible to take a Physical Therapy Tech/Aide exam. (Note: there is no board exam to become a PT tech/aide.)

https://www.cteresource.org/resources/credentials/physical-therapy-technician-certification-pttc-examination/ Is this what they are referring to?

Yes. It’s a made up exam that’s not required to work as a PT aide (unlike PT assistant and PT national board exams)

It may help them get a job over someone who has no experience. It's not like this is a for profit college where people are being misled and losing money.

It’s a minimum wage job.

Just stop.

Why? People need to know the truth.

Yes. And the truth is that AT is a college track STEM program. Very very clear from their website -- and also from parents of students actually attending AT.

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Anonymous wrote:Question is; Are these real life experiences and exposures leading to something a young person can put on their resume, and something that helps them explore a career requiring college and graduate school, or do you consider these internships only useful if you want to be (for example) a vet technician?

Career exploration only. Which is great, but they need to make that super clear. The website is super misleading and could make families think their child will graduate with qualifications to work as a healthcare provider.

Any family who is interested should tour for more info.

But they should also make the website descriptions less misleading.

Which part is misleading?

The charts for the healthcare pathways that state these students will be eligible to take exams that will make them actual healthcare providers.

When in reality, these positions are filled by people with zero qualifications who receive on the job training.

The aide exam? I guess they could become an aide if they wanted.

Most kids are going to college though, so for most, it’s more about relevant experience in the field, not heading off to work as an aide as a career.

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Anonymous wrote:Question is; Are these real life experiences and exposures leading to something a young person can put on their resume, and something that helps them explore a career requiring college and graduate school, or do you consider these internships only useful if you want to be (for example) a vet technician?

Career exploration only. Which is great, but they need to make that super clear. The website is super misleading and could make families think their child will graduate with qualifications to work as a healthcare provider.

Any family who is interested should tour for more info.

But they should also make the website descriptions less misleading.

Which part is misleading?

The charts for the healthcare pathways that state these students will be eligible to take exams that will make them actual healthcare providers.

When in reality, these positions are filled by people with zero qualifications who receive on the job training.

Not sure this poster got her GED given reading comprehension issues. From the APS website:
Physical/Occupational Therapy – This course focuses on evaluation of athletic injuries, initial emergency medical assessment and care, modality application, formation of rehabilitative exercise programs and taping. The course is designed for students interested in the fields of physical and occupational therapy.
Physical/Occupational Therapy l
Health Sciences (28303)
Physical/Occupational Therapy ll (SY 2024-25)

You cut off the ending that states students will be eligible to take a Physical Therapy Tech/Aide exam. (Note: there is no board exam to become a PT tech/aide.)

https://www.cteresource.org/resources/credentials/physical-therapy-technician-certification-pttc-examination/ Is this what they are referring to?

Yes. It’s a made up exam that’s not required to work as a PT aide (unlike PT assistant and PT national board exams)

Ok. And?

These are college-bound kids trying to get relevant experience in various fields.

Not sure why you are so confused about this.

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Anonymous wrote:Question is; Are these real life experiences and exposures leading to something a young person can put on their resume, and something that helps them explore a career requiring college and graduate school, or do you consider these internships only useful if you want to be (for example) a vet technician?

Career exploration only. Which is great, but they need to make that super clear. The website is super misleading and could make families think their child will graduate with qualifications to work as a healthcare provider.

Any family who is interested should tour for more info.

But they should also make the website descriptions less misleading.

Which part is misleading?

The charts for the healthcare pathways that state these students will be eligible to take exams that will make them actual healthcare providers.

When in reality, these positions are filled by people with zero qualifications who receive on the job training.

Not sure this poster got her GED given reading comprehension issues. From the APS website:
Physical/Occupational Therapy – This course focuses on evaluation of athletic injuries, initial emergency medical assessment and care, modality application, formation of rehabilitative exercise programs and taping. The course is designed for students interested in the fields of physical and occupational therapy.
Physical/Occupational Therapy l
Health Sciences (28303)
Physical/Occupational Therapy ll (SY 2024-25)

You cut off the ending that states students will be eligible to take a Physical Therapy Tech/Aide exam. (Note: there is no board exam to become a PT tech/aide.)

https://www.cteresource.org/resources/credentials/physical-therapy-technician-certification-pttc-examination/ Is this what they are referring to?

Yes. It’s a made up exam that’s not required to work as a PT aide (unlike PT assistant and PT national board exams)

It may help them get a job over someone who has no experience. It's not like this is a for profit college where people are being misled and losing money.

It’s a minimum wage job.

Just stop.

Why? People need to know the truth.

WTF? The “truth” is pretty clear to the rest of us.

You seen like you’re trolling now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What? My kids go to Tech and I have a friend who's same age kid goes to ACC but not tech. They are separate programs. If a tech kid wants to take EMT or physical therapy type classes, they can if they can fit it into their schedule. Most college bound tech kids do not except some who do so that they can have a job in college.

Do you have any questions about the school/program? Yes, the kids speak English.

Re college. It's only 7 or so years old and the class size is small. My kid's class is only 125-ish kids. Earlier classes were even smaller which may account for some of the issues you have with the college placement.

Is there an ESL program for interested students at ACC or Tech?

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Anonymous wrote:What? My kids go to Tech and I have a friend who's same age kid goes to ACC but not tech. They are separate programs. If a tech kid wants to take EMT or physical therapy type classes, they can if they can fit it into their schedule. Most college bound tech kids do not except some who do so that they can have a job in college.

Do you have any questions about the school/program? Yes, the kids speak English.

Re college. It's only 7 or so years old and the class size is small. My kid's class is only 125-ish kids. Earlier classes were even smaller which may account for some of the issues you have with the college placement.

Is there an ESL program for interested students at ACC or Tech?

Meaning ESL accommodation for students interested in the programs offered there.

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Anonymous wrote:What? My kids go to Tech and I have a friend who's same age kid goes to ACC but not tech. They are separate programs. If a tech kid wants to take EMT or physical therapy type classes, they can if they can fit it into their schedule. Most college bound tech kids do not except some who do so that they can have a job in college.

Do you have any questions about the school/program? Yes, the kids speak English.

Re college. It's only 7 or so years old and the class size is small. My kid's class is only 125-ish kids. Earlier classes were even smaller which may account for some of the issues you have with the college placement.

Is there an ESL program for interested students at ACC or Tech?

Meaning ESL accommodation for students interested in the programs offered there.

I believe ESL services are provided across APS?

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Anonymous wrote:Question is; Are these real life experiences and exposures leading to something a young person can put on their resume, and something that helps them explore a career requiring college and graduate school, or do you consider these internships only useful if you want to be (for example) a vet technician?

Career exploration only. Which is great, but they need to make that super clear. The website is super misleading and could make families think their child will graduate with qualifications to work as a healthcare provider.

Any family who is interested should tour for more info.

But they should also make the website descriptions less misleading.

Which part is misleading?

The charts for the healthcare pathways that state these students will be eligible to take exams that will make them actual healthcare providers.

When in reality, these positions are filled by people with zero qualifications who receive on the job training.

Not sure this poster got her GED given reading comprehension issues. From the APS website:
Physical/Occupational Therapy – This course focuses on evaluation of athletic injuries, initial emergency medical assessment and care, modality application, formation of rehabilitative exercise programs and taping. The course is designed for students interested in the fields of physical and occupational therapy.
Physical/Occupational Therapy l
Health Sciences (28303)
Physical/Occupational Therapy ll (SY 2024-25)

You cut off the ending that states students will be eligible to take a Physical Therapy Tech/Aide exam. (Note: there is no board exam to become a PT tech/aide.)

https://www.cteresource.org/resources/credentials/physical-therapy-technician-certification-pttc-examination/ Is this what they are referring to?

Yes. It’s a made up exam that’s not required to work as a PT aide (unlike PT assistant and PT national board exams)

It may help them get a job over someone who has no experience. It's not like this is a for profit college where people are being misled and losing money.

It’s a minimum wage job.

Just stop.

Why? People need to know the truth.

Yes. And the truth is that AT is a college track STEM program. Very very clear from their website -- and also from parents of students actually attending AT.

to quote that person Mel whatever. let them. This idiot (or idiots) are confounding two programs. Let them. It's a great school with great programs and is serving a great number of ARL kids. If this idiot doesn't see it. Fine. Let their kid flounder at wherever they are and let kids who want/need AT/ACC have at it.

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Anonymous wrote:What? My kids go to Tech and I have a friend who's same age kid goes to ACC but not tech. They are separate programs. If a tech kid wants to take EMT or physical therapy type classes, they can if they can fit it into their schedule. Most college bound tech kids do not except some who do so that they can have a job in college.

Do you have any questions about the school/program? Yes, the kids speak English.

Re college. It's only 7 or so years old and the class size is small. My kid's class is only 125-ish kids. Earlier classes were even smaller which may account for some of the issues you have with the college placement.

Is there an ESL program for interested students at ACC or Tech?

I have a kid at Tech and during back to school night I was in many classes with a woman with a translator. Since we were in about half of the classes together, I learned a lot (my kid has an IEP). Her girl is in AT. Mom is not fluent in English. Acc/Tech is making sure mom and child are on the same page. I know this is not a direct answer to your question but it's a great program/great school and my kid said this girl is doing great.

[Anonymous]

For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

They fulfill elective credits right?

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

They fulfill elective credits right?

I don’t think that’s how community college works, but I could be wrong. It looks like there’s a very specific course sequence that must be followed.

Also, PT and OT are different careers. Not sure why they are combo courses. Very strange.

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster talking about how it’s “career exploration” only, please remember that for many of these courses the students are dual enrolled and receive college credit… so they do get a bit more. They get started on the further academic requirements for some of these careers, and they’re sure they want to pursue them (or not) afterward. That’s valuable.

These courses aren’t listed in the PTA program at NVCC, so no, they don’t fulfill any requirements. Career exploration isn’t a bad thing.

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You’re really stuck on the PT class. I know there are other classes at ACC that students can apply directly to their programs.

[Anonymous]

While in HS, AT students can earn a general studies associate’s degree, not a PTA-specific associate’s degree.

Or they can use the DE credits as a general education elective.